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Poll: Who will win-Clinton or Sanders?
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View Poll Results: Who will be the nominee?
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Democrat Hillary
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73.37% |
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Socialist Bernie
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A kii @ everyone saying who they want to win rather than thinking about how things might actually go.
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Member Since: 7/21/2012
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Originally posted by Wonderland
Why do you care about a political party so much to be bothered by that  |
Because if you associate and are registered under that party and help promote their policies and views, you don't want an outsider coming in changing the things you like about it. If I had a problem with the Democratic Party, I wouldn't have registered as one. I would be an Independent like he was.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by King Maxx
Yes we dislike the man who is trying to change a party he is new too, and has bashed for decades before most of us on this site were even born.
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Hillary is a moderate, AT BEST! She is a run of the mill corrupt politician who will talk out of her ass and change nothing! She supports keeping money in politics and is now suddenly changing her views when she runs for president? Bernie is a progressive who is not owned by any corporations and wants to return the Democratic Party to the party of the people! We need a political revolution, the establishment has bought candidates for too long and now people are sick of it!
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Originally posted by nd01
Hillary is a moderate, AT BEST! She is a run of the mill corrupt politician who will talk out of her ass and change nothing! She supports keeping money in politics and is now suddenly changing her views when she runs for president? Bernie is a progressive who is not owned by any corporations and wants to return the Democratic Party to the party of the people! We need a political revolution, the establishment has bought candidates for too long and now people are sick of it!
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You act like Bernie's not?
He's a lifelong politician just like Hillary. He's done similar things that Hillary has throughout his career. He's pandered to corporations before. And he's done worse things like supporting the communist leader of Cuba and supporting rape. We just haven't heard much of them because who really cares about a senator from Vermont or a mayor of a town of 50,000 people? Hillary has been working more in the public eye, being a first lady, running for president once already, and being secretary of state. So we know more about all the bad things she's done.
What's most frustrating about a lot of Bernie supporters is that they just ignore these things and think he just decided to become a politician three years ago and he's really an outsider working against the political environment.
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Originally posted by jpow
You act like Bernie's not?
He's a lifelong politician just like Hillary. He's done similar things that Hillary has throughout his career. He's pandered to corporations before. And he's done worse things like supporting the communist leader of Cuba and supporting rape. We just haven't heard much of them because who really cares about a senator from Vermont or a mayor of a town of 50,000 people? Hillary has been working more in the public eye, being a first lady, running for president once already, and being secretary of state. So we know more about all the bad things she's done.
What's most frustrating about a lot of Bernie supporters is that they just ignore these things and think he just decided to become a politician three years ago and he's really an outsider working against the political environment.
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Literally all false 
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Originally posted by nd01
Hillary is a moderate, AT BEST! She is a run of the mill corrupt politician who will talk out of her ass and change nothing! She supports keeping money in politics and is now suddenly changing her views when she runs for president? Bernie is a progressive who is not owned by any corporations and wants to return the Democratic Party to the party of the people! We need a political revolution, the establishment has bought candidates for too long and now people are sick of it!
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Blah, blah, blah. All you're saying is exactly why I don't like Bernie and these Republican talking points about Hillary does not phase me. And yeah, if people were so sick of it, Bernie would be president but good that he won't.
We have bigger issues and fish to fry. (Happy Good Friday!)
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Originally posted by C/H/A/N/E/L
A kii @ everyone saying who they want to win rather than thinking about how things might actually go. |
the title changed
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Originally posted by King Maxx
Blah, blah, blah. All you're saying is exactly why I don't like Bernie and these Republican talking points about Hillary does not phase me. And yeah, if people were so sick of it, Bernie would be president but good that he won't.
We have bigger issues and fish to fry. (Happy Good Friday!)
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Stay mad babe, but if the revolution doesn't come this election, believe me it will come on the near future. The Democratic Party needs to become more citizen-based and needs to become progressive (not just on social issues) to survive! These days the only difference between politicans is their stance on social issues!
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He stated facts about Castro.
The rape essay was taken out of context.
The super PAC supports a union that supports him, and it's not really even a super PAC.
Those company contributions don't even compare to Hillary's.
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Originally posted by Marvin
He stated facts about Castro.
The rape essay was taken out of context.
The super PAC supports a union that supports him, and it's not really even a super PAC.
Those company contributions don't even compare to Hillary's.
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Clock ha!
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Marvin
He stated facts about Castro.
The rape essay was taken out of context.
The super PAC supports a union that supports him, and it's not really even a super PAC.
Those company contributions don't even compare to Hillary's.
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He stated facts about Castro that just happen to be major points in his campaign.
The rape essay was not taken out of context.
It's still a super PAC, something he's spoken against for ages.
I didn't say Hillary doesn't have corporate sponsors, but she doesn't try to hide it like he does.
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Bernie is the nominee in a parallel universe 
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Originally posted by nd01
Stay mad babe, but if the revolution doesn't come this election, believe me it will come on the near future. The Democratic Party needs to become more citizen-based and needs to become progressive (not just on social issues) to survive! These days the only difference between politicans is their stance on social issues!
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The Democratic Party is already progressive enough. We're finally going in the right direction. And that started way before Bernie started screaming WALL STREET all day
And you know what Hillary is currently doing today? Doing fundraisers to help get Democratic leaders elected in local, state, and federal governments. That's the woman y'all so hate. She hasn't campaigned much in any of these states that voted this week. She's thinking of the future and better of the party while Bernie is doing everything he can to turn young people against her and the party that, as I'll reiterate, he disagrees with yet is using its platform to win.
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Originally posted by Heroine
I hope you guys saying Bernie are actually going out and voting for him.
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Ha! Bernie fans don't vote. They just post on social media.
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Trump sadly  I hope for Hilary though or Bernie.
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Originally posted by Kim Kardashian
The desperate title change because Bernie was winning the poll 
I swear the Hillary fans on here hate Bernie so much 
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Peep the poll question dear, it was always asking who would be the nominee. Try reading next time!
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Originally posted by King Maxx
The Democratic Party is already progressive enough. We're finally going in the right direction. And that started way before Bernie started screaming WALL STREET all day
And you know what Hillary is currently doing today? Doing fundraisers to help get Democratic leaders elected in local, state, and federal governments. That's the woman y'all so hate. She hasn't campaigned much in any of these states that voted this week. She's thinking of the future and better of the party while Bernie is doing everything he can to turn young people against her and the party that, as I'll reiterate, he disagrees with yet is using its platform to win.
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i certainly do NOT hate hillary, i respect her career and her legacy, but not the fact that she is owned by major corporations, it just makes her less genuine to me bc i know she needs to appease the people who put her in office if she gets there. i would vote for her 12345678987654324 times over ay republican candidate, i just want CHANGE, and that is what bernie sanders is. i dont want a slow step towards change, i want change come january 2017!
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Originally posted by King Maxx
The Democratic Party is already progressive enough. We're finally going in the right direction. And that started way before Bernie started screaming WALL STREET all day
And you know what Hillary is currently doing today? Doing fundraisers to help get Democratic leaders elected in local, state, and federal governments. That's the woman y'all so hate. She hasn't campaigned much in any of these states that voted this week. She's thinking of the future and better of the party while Bernie is doing everything he can to turn young people against her and the party that, as I'll reiterate, he disagrees with.
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Would you Hillary stans get over yourselves already?
Bernie's allowed to do whatever he wants. That's why he's running against her as her opponent and presenting himself as a second option. If everyone shared the same opinion there'd be no point to these primaries. There is a real divide in the democratic party of people who don't think it's liberal enough, etc. And you know what? That's okay. We do live in a democracy and not everyone is going to agree with each other.
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Originally posted by nd01
And many of the states that have voted are the conservative leaning states, so Hillary had an unfair advantage. The perpose of that was to make people think she's our only hope to win and scare everyone into voting for her. But Bernie is gaining momentum everyday and with many liberal states coming, I'd say the democratic primary battle is only just beginning.
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The thing is, the schedule was already determined before this year (very early 2015) so...it's not her fault Sanders only appeals to white working class democrats and independents. And being conservative has nothing to do with it. In 2008 Obama won the Deep South and he ran on a more liberal campaign than her
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