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Celeb News: Era Istrefi apologised for using N-Word
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Originally posted by Haburo
wait @ kosova's socially acceptable/casual racism???!?!?!
messy country is messy
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There are no black people in Kosovo. And in Croatia/Serbia/Bosnia/Kosovo words you'd normally associate with racism hold no weight. For instance there was a case where a Serbian tennis player called one of his black opponents (or black fans, can't quite remember correctly atm) 'Majmune' which translates to Monkey in English. Y'all would scream RACIST! However in Balkan countries calling someone a monkey is like calling someone an idiot. It's used on day to day basis, both as a term of endearment and an insult. Are you gonna tell me the whole world is to conform to American way of thinking in order to potentially not offend someone. To stop what they've been doing way before the states were even formed?
The fact is, the world doesn't revolve around the US. Just like you know nothing about Kosovian history you shouldn't expect people from different countries to know about yours. And if someone is exposed to movies and tv shows where everyone throws that word casually, black people toward blacks, songs where every verse has at least 3 mentions of the said word would you not think it's ok, or cool, or hip?
Glad she apologized even though I doubt she cares.
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I personally know two Nigerians with two British Nigerian children, a black British Jamaican, his daughter who lives in Hackney (not near me), an older black Jamaican who came to the UK decades ago and now has a sixteen year old black son, and four of my second cousins are all black too. None of them think it's acceptable to be using the n word in such context unless they're listening to music. They don't call each other the n word in replacement for bro. It's not happening.
Just because you think it's acceptable in your country doesn't mean the blacks around me, in my life and family, think it is.
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Racism is so old that it's mostly normalized in people.. so much so they clearly aren't aware of its purpose anymore.
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Originally posted by Callisto.
I ain't said nothing about slavery.
I said the N word.
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where the hell do you think the N word came from?
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Originally posted by Lyrical.
If you're not black, you shouldn't say it. Point blank period.
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The gay f word that gays use themselves but no one else is allowed to say it because its seen as homophobic tea. Stupid logic. It's either a bad word or not, no matter who uses it. Point blank period.
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Originally posted by FAME.
Yeah no. That may be the aim of the labels and the managers etc. But majority of rappers have grown up in black culture and the music they make derives from their roots and is made to appeal to those who can relate to the **** they are rapping about. Fetty Wap may have songs that have crossedover but when he was sitting in his basement writing Trap Queen, it was for him and all the other ****** from the Trap who have had similar experiences. The language, slang, context, subject matter, etc is all a part of this. Just because white people may end up liking something doesn't mean that's who it's meant to appeal to or who they had in mind when they were making the song
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I was thinking about artists like Drake (Headlines), Kanye (All Day), Rihanna (Man Down) and Nicki Minaj (Super Bass).
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Originally posted by J a y
I personally know two Nigerians with two British Nigerian children, a black British Jamaican, his daughter who lives in Hackney (not near me), an older black Jamaican who came to the UK decades ago and now has a sixteen year old black son, and four of my second cousins are all black too. None of them think it's acceptable to be using the n word in such context unless they're listening to music. They don't call each other the n word in replacement for bro. It's not happening.
Just because you think it's acceptable in your country doesn't mean the blacks around me, in my life and family, think it is.
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That's because they aren't American. African-American culture is NOT the same as African, Caribbean, etc. Those people have culture and connections to the countries that they derived from and a lot of their beliefs come from that. Whereas African-Americans have virtually no connection to their roots and a lot of their culture/beliefs comes from the Southern areas of America. The "n word" is an African-American thing.
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getting that controversy!
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Originally posted by Opacho
There are no black people in Kosovo. And in Croatia/Serbia/Bosnia/Kosovo words you'd normally associate with racism hold no weight. For instance there was a case where a Serbian tennis player called one of his black opponents (or black fans, can't quite remember correctly atm) 'Majmune' which translates to Monkey in English. Y'all would scream RACIST! However in Balkan countries calling someone a monkey is like calling someone an idiot. It's used on day to day basis, both as a term of endearment and an insult. Are you gonna tell me the whole world is to conform to American way of thinking in order to potentially not offend someone. To stop what they've been doing way before the states were even formed?
The fact is, the world doesn't revolve around the US. Just like you know nothing about Kosovian history you shouldn't expect people from different countries to know about yours. And if someone is exposed to movies and tv shows where everyone throws that word casually, black people toward blacks, songs where every verse has at least 3 mentions of the said word would you not think it's ok, or cool, or hip?
Glad she apologized even though I doubt she cares.
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I guess World History is only taught in America. Interesting.
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Originally posted by OnMyCoolJ
where the hell do you think the N word came from?
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Baby learn something.
Just because a country had slavery doesn't mean they used the N word.
For example Brazil was the slave capital of the word yet there is no equivalent to the N word in Portuguese.
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This is a bop, omg
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Originally posted by J a y
I personally know two Nigerians with two British Nigerian children, a black British Jamaican, his daughter who lives in Hackney (not near me), an older black Jamaican who came to the UK decades ago and now has a sixteen year old black son, and four of my second cousins are all black too. None of them think it's acceptable to be using the n word in such context unless they're listening to music. They don't call each other the n word in replacement for bro. It's not happening.
Just because you think it's acceptable in your country doesn't mean the blacks around me, in my life and family, think it is.
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Nigerians and Jamaicans, two groups of people that have nothing to do with the word.
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this is 100% african americans fault for using the word so flippantly in culture
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Originally posted by BabyCantYouSee
I was thinking about artists like Drake (Headlines), Kanye (All Day), Rihanna (Man Down) and Nicki Minaj (Super Bass).
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You're literally naming THEE most mainstream rappers (one who is half a pop star). And Rihanna, who is a ****ing pop singer
And even Kanye, when he first started out, still applies to what I said. He may be trying to appeal to the mainstream NOW but College Dropout Kanye? The ***** from Chicago? He was speaking to his people. Just because he's making huge money, and all into mainstream/European **** now doesn't change where he came from.
Drake is possibly the ONLY one I can see. And he's half white (and from Canada) obviously his influences, who he tries to appeal to, etc isn't going to be exactly the same as most rappers.
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Originally posted by Marvin
I guess World History is only taught in America. Interesting.
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its pretty evident that if there is a country were world history isnt taught, its America
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Originally posted by Marvin
I guess World History is only taught in America. Interesting.
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Fine tell me something about Croatia, Kosovo, Bosnia And Herzegovina, Serbia. In fact to be more specific: Tell me something you know about Škabrnja massacre without googling. Something you were taught in your advanced History class in your superbly special school. Tell me Marvin.
Ofc you are taught the basics but some themes are just skimmed through. I'm pretty sure we were never taught about the use of N word or blackface
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Originally posted by Dollas n Diamonds
its pretty evident that if there is a country were world history isnt taught, its America
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Originally posted by Trent W
That apology was not necessary if she didn't meant to offend anyone.
The problem that I see is that the American race problems are invading now other countries because of social media. The N word can be spelled in many countries in different ways and means nothing other than color.
What a ****ing mess is all this online agenda people have. The word racist has officially lost its meaning
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You've got to be kidding. "******" is a derogatory term used for black people and does not "mean nothing other than color." It's not "negro." It's "******" so I don't know know why you're pretending as if it's another word for "black." With your logic, "chink" is an acceptable term because it's another word for Chinese.
As for American race problems invading other countries, what were you expecting when other countries are always looking the US for pop culture and emulating it?
Finally, I don't know where the line about "online agenda" came from, when every single one of your posts on ATRL are agenda-driven and some whining about "SJWs." I guess that's the best thing you can come up with someone tries to push logic into your brain.
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Originally posted by Dollas n Diamonds
this is 100% african americans fault for using the word so flippantly in culture
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Thanks for enlightening us, massa.
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Guys you can't just stop music from spreading to other parts of the world nowadays With the internet people will listen to American rap or hip hop from their laptops in a village in Turkmenistan if they want to. And the historical context of the word is not exactly clear to these foreign people.
Educating them on why they shouldn't use the word as non-African Americans would be good, which is what people just did with this Kosovan girl.
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Originally posted by valyrianpopstar
, literally nobody says ***** in a spitefull way..
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is this a joke? You must be white
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