[OnMyCoolJ]

R&B has never been local.

plenty of rnb artists have had more success overseas than in the US.

only ppl who think its local are the ones obsessed with itunes and spotify charts

[The411]

R&B is not local.

R&Bs influence and presence in the industry is prevalent especially with alot of past and present Pop artists.

[Jet]

Originally posted by DaLYCD

"Three of the ten most succesful females ever are predominantly R&B: Whitney, Mariah and Janet"

Stop with this blatant lie, Whitney didn't even touch R&B for the first decade of her career and not fully untill My Love Your is Love album.

Mariah didn't really do it until Butterfly which is the reason her album sales started to decline.

Lol it's funny you say this when both Mariah and Whitneys first and second albums were predominantly r&b while almost every Janet album is pop

[Jet]

Originally posted by itsnickcray

Beyonce is pure pop...

I wish you guys were more educated on this topic haha posts like these don't make any sense

[J a y]

People here say a lot of ****

[trinafan92]

Sure wasn't local when R.Kelly was in his prime.

[Evolution]

The same way Americans try to downplay other countries' success when an artist isn't popular there.

R&B as a whole is MOSTLY local to the US and sometimes some English speaking countries pick up a few artists or songs here and there but that is not being global.

R&B is not popular in South America, like literally at all, the majority of Europe, Asia and Oceania for the most part.

[Britney Is Fierce]

Originally posted by Hi_im_new

But nobody pulled that card....

Originally posted by ryanpittman97

But no one pulled the race card

Originally posted by B'Day

Anyone who is black and makes urban (R&B..hip-Hop) music is local by ATRL's rules, apparently.

Um, you were saying?

[Mezter]

Originally posted by Hi_im_new

Basically, according to a lot of the non U.S atrlers (mainly ones from Europe), if you're not huge in whatever flopped, irrelevant European country they're from, then you're local.

Exactly!

[OnlyXtina]

Since when has Mary J. Blige ever been huge outside the US? Shes the definiton of local.

[B'Day]

Originally posted by Britney Is Fierce

Um, you were saying?

Can you not @ me? I do not know you. I'm not pulling no damn 'race card', when it's the truth.

[likeadarkparadise]

R&B isn't local. Just last year Ciara's "I Bet" had literally ZERO promo in the UK and still did pretty well.

[Theus]

Originally posted by OnlyXtina

Since when has Mary J. Blige ever been huge outside the US? Shes the definiton of local.

Family Affair:
France #1
New Zealand #2
Belgium (Wallonia) #2
Ireland #3
Netherlands #3
Denamark #4
Switzerland #4
Belgium (Flanders) #5
Sweden #7
Australia #8
Norway #8
United Kingdom #8
Hungary #9
Germany #10

As for albums..

No More Drama
Sweden #2
United Kingdom #4
Canada #5
Switzerland #7
France #8
Netherlands #9
Denmark #10

It also reached top 20 in Germany and others coutries as well, it did not hit the top ten, but it had considerable longevity.

Sure, she pales in comparasion to others on the OP but she did had success.

[Mr. Wonder]

Originally posted by Evolution

The same way Americans try to downplay other countries' success when an artist isn't popular there.

R&B as a whole is MOSTLY local to the US and sometimes some English speaking countries pick up a few artists or songs here and there but that is not being global.

R&B is not popular in South America, like literally at all, the majority of Europe, Asia and Oceania for the most part.

You just named 4 of the 6 densely populated continents that recognize R&B. And R&B is popular here in Africa. Wouldn't that mean R&B is a relatively global genre?

[Mr. Wonder]

Do some of you even think before you post the dumb **** that you do?

[superben]

It's an excuse to explain how their RnB faves are not global. Basically putting blame on the genre.

[Britney Is Fierce]

Originally posted by B'Day

Can you not @ me? I do not know you. I'm not pulling no damn 'race card', when it's the truth.

As far as I'm concerned, this is a public discussion forum and anyone can quote any post. I'm not saying you're completely wrong because it's true that many ATRLers shade black artists without proper arguments, but it's true that R&B's popularity is concentrated in the US and other continents tend to prefer pop or dance music over it. I'm not even trying to shade or fight, it's just that the "ATRL despises black artists" argument is kinda irrelevant here because the "local R&B" thing is not that inaccurate, although to be fair I'd use a different term because it's obviously not completely restricted to the US, it's just preferred by people from that country.

[HEARTCORE]

ATRL just likes to throw around the word 'local' whenever members can't think of any good drags. i can assure you, as a british person, that 99% of the people mentioned who are supposedly local (Beyonce, Britney etc) are most definitely not

[FAME.]

Whitney Mariah and Janet are all very much pop

Anyway, it's not local. There are R&B musicians that are successful overseas but Urban music in general doesn't have the global appeal that pop music does.

[Theus]

Originally posted by FAME.

Whitney Mariah and Janet are all very much pop

would you care to elaborate when literally more than half of their discographies are R&B records or a sub-genre from it