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Discussion: More successful career overall: Kelly or Avril
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Originally posted by Red Hot Moon
Overall Avril was and still is bigger. Kelly's international career ended after Breakaway.
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She had big world tours with All I Ever Wanted (and even My December), and Stronger was a global hit. Heartbeat Song was a bigger hit in several countries than it was in the US.
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Originally posted by MissedTheTrain
Do you live under a rock? That song is a 2000's classic.
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Too bad Avril can reach Under the rocks while the other cant
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Originally posted by Afferty
How even i didnt even hear SUBG before i join here
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That's incredible!! Do you just not turn on the radio? How did you manage that?
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Originally posted by MissedTheTrain
She had big world tours with All I Ever Wanted (and even My December), and Stronger was a global hit. Heartbeat Song was a bigger hit in several countries than it was in the US.
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I live in Europe. Kelly has not been a factor here since Breakaway. It's her only truly global era. Period. She's lucky she still has the US on her side. Stronger was a big hit in the US, not in Europe. And the whole PbP-Era was a disaster, no way to sugar-coat it. Kelly was never big in Asia and Latin America where Avril is still a thing.
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Originally posted by Red Hot Moon
I live in Europe. Kelly has not been a factor here since Breakaway. It's her only truly global era. Period. She's lucky she still has the US on her side. Stronger was a big hit in the US, not in Europe. And the whole PbP-Era was a disaster, no way to sugar-coat it. Kelly was never big in Asia and Latin America where Avril is still a thing.
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It depends in the European country... It went #1 in a few European countries, and was a top 10 hit in Europe as a whole. The album Stronger also went Gold in the UK. Heartbeat song, even, went Platinum in Sweden. She's not a massive global phenomenon, but she isn't limited to the US.
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Kelly Clarkson - 22,550,000 albums / 38,860,000 singles
Avril Lavigne - 35,100,000 albums / 36,394,000 singles
Kelly's got better catalog sales (having a GH and a Christmas album helps a lot), but without a career revival, Avril will probably remain bigger.
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Originally posted by Eternium
Kelly Clarkson - 22,550,000 albums / 38,860,000 singles
Avril Lavigne - 35,100,000 albums / 36,394,000 singles
Kelly's got better catalog sales (having a GH and a Christmas album helps a lot), but without a career revival, Avril will probably remain bigger.
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Avril's numbers are outdated. She sold more singles & albums even with less releases.
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Originally posted by Bloo
It depends in the European country... It went #1 in a few European countries, and was a top 10 hit in Europe as a whole. The album Stronger also went Gold in the UK. Heartbeat song, even, went Platinum in Sweden. She's not a massive global phenomenon, but she isn't limited to the US.
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Stronger didn't even go gold in my country which is the biggest market in Europe. With the exception of the UK Kelly's success is limited to 1 era. Avril was and still is the bigger force in Europe, Latin America and Asia. Kelly is somewhat bigger in the US, but not much looking at Piece by Piece Stats. Doesn't matter how you put it: Avril had more commercial success and longevity worldwide.
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Kelly and its not even close, what songs of Avril's even have recurrent radio play? Turn on the radio anyday and you'll most likely hear a few Kelly songs
Avril is simply forgotten
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Originally posted by Jay Fenty
Kelly and its not even close, what songs of Avril's even have recurrent radio play? Turn on the radio anyday and you'll most likely hear a few Kelly songs
Avril is simply forgotten
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Is that why Avril's Vevo has 2.2B views compared to Kelly's <900.000 ? But don't let facts&stats distract you from your biased opinion.
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Originally posted by Red Hot Moon
Is that why Avril's Vevo has 2.2B views compared to Kelly's <900.000 ? But don't let facts&stats distract you from your biased opinion.
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Psy has a single music video with more views than all of Avril's Vevo videos. Doesn't make him a bigger artist.
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Originally posted by Bloo
Psy has a single music video with more views than all of Avril's Vevo videos. Doesn't make him a bigger artist.
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Stop embarrassing yourself.
Sales Avril >> with less releases
Touring Avril >>
Last era Avril >
Streaming Avril >>>
Global Appeal Avril >>>
Longevity Avril >
Acclaim Kelly >>>
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Originally posted by Red Hot Moon
Is that why Avril's Vevo has 2.2B views compared to Kelly's <900.000 ? But don't let facts&stats distract you from your biased opinion.
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Biased opinion? I dont even remotely stan for either one, its just the truth that Kelly Clarkson has had a bigger career, she has been getting hits for over a decade now, Avril lasted for 5 years.
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Originally posted by Jay Fenty
Biased opinion? I dont even remotely stan for either one, its just the truth that Kelly Clarkson has had a bigger career, she has been getting hits for over a decade now, Avril lasted for 5 years.
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It's an uneducated opinion, then. We have already established that Avril has outsold, outtoured, outstreamed and outlasted Kelly worldwide which means she had a bigger career (so far). Kelly will end up with more acclaim, though. For the record: I own both artist's entire discography.
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Avril obviously. Screaming @ "she didn't have longevity" when she was on top of the game from 2002-2007
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Honestly, I'd say they're about equal. Avril had a higher peak with her first three albums, but Kelly has had better longevity. They've both had big singles (Complicated, Girlfriend; Because Of You, Stronger). They've both had big albums (Let Go, Under My Skin, The Best Damn Thing; Breakaway, All I Ever Wanted, Stronger) and they've both had less successful albums (Goodbye Lullaby, Avril Lavigne; Thankful, My December). Though even their "flop" albums at least had one decent single (What The Hell, Here's To Never Growing Up; Miss Independent, Never Again).
Also, both have had some sabotaging from their record labels. Kelly had to fight to release My December, but Avril also had to fight to release Goodbye Lullaby. Unlike Kelly though, Avril didn't recover with her next album. Maybe her 6th album will make the comeback she needs, the kind of comeback Kelly had with AIEW.
Kelly's bigger in the US, Avril's bigger in other countries like Japan.
It's just silly how people fight over singers who are so similarly matched. It doesn't really matter. Avril and Kelly are both great and have both had their ups and downs.
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Originally posted by Afferty
Too bad Avril can reach Under the rocks while the other cant
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Not really sure if this is supposed to be shade or not.... but regardless, SUBG is a 2000's Pop classic.
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