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Poll: Remembered in 50 years: Beyonce or Fiona Apple?
View Poll Results: More remembered in music?
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Beyonce
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61.00% |
Fiona Apple
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39.00% |
Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by Schoolin' Life
And how people exctly respond to your music if they don't buy it?
Cut the crap, this is ATRL, not inde rock/alternative forum.
You say much self righteous "blah blah" but not naming any actual impact on music.
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Alright!!
Bitch now all of the sudden you wanna be a music snob on ATRL
Bye.
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lmao.
Beyoncé, obviously.
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Originally posted by Ressti
In comparison to Beyoncé, I think Fiona Apple is pretty one-dimensional. Sad girl lyrics the whole album, every album.
Some of her music is unlistenable.
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You can say the same about Beyonce if you're going to get superficial. Lets play devils advocate: Beyonce = sex, sex, sex, incredibly shallow and superficial brushings of feminism, and relationship issues.
Fiona is in her head, she makes music about her depression, about her relationships, about life. You cant come at her for being one dimensional in your eyes when easily Beyonce can be construed as one dimensional as well. To go from B'Day to Sasha Fierce to Beyonce isn't exactly mind blowing dimension kiddo.
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Member Since: 11/13/2011
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Originally posted by Misanthrope
CACKLING AT YOU THINKING FIONA APPLE IS UNHEARD.
jesus christ the majority of you have literally no education of music beyond the top 40. which is why so many of you think listening to like madonna or fka twigs is branching out. like I can't respond to this blatant ignorance anymore. its like trying to talk to a white person in the south in the 50s.
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u are not aware of the OP I guess. The OP is a question which highly depends on the GP, and the GP is not aware of Fiona Apple. Go on the street and ask the question "Do you know Fiona Apple?" vs "Do you know Beyonce?", I'm sure we all know how this poll would end up. Dont be ignorant to the OP even if u love Fiona Apple. Im not saying she's unsuccessfull in what shes doing, but when it comes to remembering someone, there are only a couple of musicians out there that can keep up with Beys stardom and legacy. And Fiona Apple is surely not included in this list.
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i can't @ yall acting like fiona is unheard of... she's one of the go-to female artists name dropped in 'real music' debates when someone wants to sound credible. she is very respected and critically acclaimed and is definitely on bjork, kate bush, etc's level.
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Kanye West:
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I actually wanted to work with him (Jon Brion) so I could be like the rap version of you. That was one of my main goals. The albums that inspired me for Late Registration were your first one, Tidal [1996] and Portishead's Dummy [1994], but especially your lyrics and how you sing. How is your vocabulary so ill? Were you tight in vocabulary in your school?
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Poor Fiona 'unheard of' Apple, right?
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Originally posted by Misanthrope
CACKLING AT YOU THINKING FIONA APPLE IS UNHEARD.
jesus christ the majority of you have literally no education of music beyond the top 40. which is why so many of you think listening to like madonna or fka twigs is branching out. like I can't respond to this blatant ignorance anymore. its like trying to talk to a white person in the south in the 50s.
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All you have is your words, you may as well leave. I just checked and Fiona practically never toured outside of US/Canada. She remains unknown/forgotten to GP and you can live in your delusions but her last or any other album never charted in my country do how would I know about her?
And you know **** about what music I listen to outside top 40 so again, leave instead of mocking and judging these who don't share your opinion.
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How is this even a question lol it's obviously beyonce
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Im from Germany and Im sorry, I have never heard of that name before.
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Beyonce, as she has had more impact on music than Fiona Apple. What a ridiculous question.
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Originally posted by Misanthrope
You can say the same about Beyonce if you're going to get superficial. Lets play devils advocate: Beyonce = sex, sex, sex, incredibly shallow and superficial brushings of feminism, and relationship issues.
Fiona is in her head, she makes music about her depression, about her relationships, about life. You cant come at her for being one dimensional in your eyes when easily Beyonce can be construed as one dimensional as well.
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You don't get what i'm saying.
Bey has happy song, uplifting songs, sad music, upbeat dance tracks, big vocal ballads, acoustic ballads, she's shown range. Fiona has not shown any range at all. There is only one mood in which you can listen to Fiona Apple... and that's when you're down.
Fiona's great lyricist, but that's pretty much where her superiority ends. So you can stop with the "She's a real artist" crap. She can write her ass off, however her melodies and arrangements leave a lot to be desired. Her catalog is pretty much the same throughout. If you're heard one album you've heard the rest.
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Originally posted by Ressti
You don't get what i'm saying.
Bey has happy song, uplifting songs, sad music, upbeat dance tracks, big vocal ballads, acoustic ballads, she's shown range. Fiona has not shown any range at all. There is only one mood in which you can listen to Fiona Apple... and that's when you're down.
Fiona's great lyricist, but that's pretty much where her superiority ends. So you can stop with the "She's a real artist" crap. She can write her ass off, however her melodies and arrangements leave a lot to be desired. Her catalog is pretty much the same throughout. If you're heard one album you've heard the rest.
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i can't this is the same as when people say that ultraviolence and born to die sound the same , yes, tidal and when the pawn sound completely alike, and so does the idler wheel with those two, sure
why are bey stans so damn defensive over every little thing
anyway to answer the question:
Beyonce will definitely be more remembered as shes obviously much more popular and generally known. but thats not at all to say that Fiona won't be remembered, but shell be more of a cult sort of thing, and for those saying she doesn't have any known songs - 'Criminal' is extremely iconic and so is the album it comes from.
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Originally posted by *-ChriZ-*
u are not aware of the OP I guess. The OP is a question which highly depends on the GP, and the GP is not aware of Fiona Apple. Go on the street and ask the question "Do you know Fiona Apple?" vs "Do you know Beyonce?", I'm sure we all know how this poll would end up. Dont be ignorant to the OP even if u love Fiona Apple. Im not saying she's unsuccessfull in what shes doing, but when it comes to remembering someone, there are only a couple of musicians out there that can keep up with Beys stardom and legacy. And Fiona Apple is surely not included in this list.
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This is nothing to do with stardom. Beyonce is a superstar, and Fiona Apple is not... I'm not denying that. But history has it's way of weeding out populist trash and elevating geniuses to a level where they're studied in schools, where they form an indelible part of culture and art. That's why I said half a century and not a couple of decades. And I think it's very possible Fiona Apple will be remembered like that... her lyrics are sensational and poignant and complex.
Now that isn't to shade Beyonce at all... she is a very different type of artist, and I have confidence that she'll be remembered as an R&B legend; an iconic performer, singer and dancer, and a prominent figure on the musical pantheon... however her music doesn't have the complexity nor the genius of Ms. Apple's.
I love both these artists and respect them in their own way, and I do believe this is a justified comparison.
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Y'all need to remember that Van Gogh never had any success in his lifetime, and died broke, believing he was a failure... Shakespeare wasn't even considered the top playwright in his day...
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Is Beyonce the Shakespeare of music?
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Originally posted by Rivington Reject
Fiona isn't even remembered these days.
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Fiona is already more remembered.
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