[Solopop]

Aren't most Latino white tho?

[Deuces]

Originally posted by Solopop

Aren't most Latino white tho?

No.

[Chamoy]

Originally posted by Tropez

That's what I was getting at

There were barely any Mexicans in California when America took it. It was sparsely populated and was mostly native tribes.

His statement is as stupid as stupid gets.

It gets stupider, I'm afraid.

Although the treaty promised U.S. citizenship to former Mexican citizens, the Native Americans in the ceded territories, who in fact were Mexican citizens, were not given full U.S. citizenship until the 1930s. Former Mexican citizens were almost universally considered foreigners by the U.S. settlers who moved into the new territories. In. U.S. courts, the property rights of former Mexican citizens in California, New Mexico, and Texas proved to be fragile. Within a generation the Mexican-Americans became a disenfranchised, poverty-stricken minority.

The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo gave Mexicans the right to remain in United States territory or to move to Mexico. About three thousand chose to move, but the overwhelming majority decided to stay. These people could choose to retain Mexican citizenship or become citizens of the United States. The treaty explicitly guaranteed Mexican Americans "the right to their property, language, and culture." The United States Senate revised Article IX, which guaranteed Mexicans civil and political rights (substituting wording from the treaty acquiring Louisiana territory from France), and deleted Article X, which protected Mexican land grants.

Mexican Americans are the only minority group in the United States, other than Native Americans, to be annexed by conquest and to have their rights allegedly safeguarded by treaty.

A general survey of this era in American history reveals one constant: the United States, through an unwritten policy of territorial expansionism via political and judicial avenues, has denied Mexican Americans their Constitutional rights both as landowners and as citizens in general.

http://www.pbs.org/kera/usmexicanwar...guadalupe.html

http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/dis...&psid=1141

http://academic.udayton.edu/race/02rights/guadalu7.htm

Originally posted by Tropez

If this is true. Then I'm waiting for Spain to take back Mexico. Karma.

That is some ****ed up karma.

Gaining freedom from centuries of oppression and racial inequality is equal to......being a land-hungry Spaniard?

[Tropez]

Originally posted by Deuces

No.

Most latinos in the US consider themselves to be white according to the US census. Like over half actually.

[Deuces]

Originally posted by Tropez

Most latinos in the US consider themselves to be white according to the US census. Like over half actually.

Well duh they "consider" themselves white. Why wouldn't racially ambiguous people want to claim white in a white supremacist society?

[XIAN]

SLAY

[Tropez]

Originally posted by Deuces

Well duh they "consider" themselves white. Why wouldn't racially ambiguous people want to claim white in a white supremacist society?

You have no clue what you're talking about.

It's a racially diverse group, there's Latinos as white as George Bush. Some are black, some are even Asian and mixed. You clearly are following stereotypes of what this ethnic group should look like.

[J Legend X]

soo I should get my residence from another state with less latinos!! who wants to marry me !!

[hooky]

Originally posted by Trent W

I told everyone and no one believed me

Latinos are going to take back slowly the land that the US took from them

Karma

They're gonna take over the whole country tbh. Time for me to pick up Spanish again!

[Deuces]

Originally posted by Tropez

You have no clue what you're talking about.

It's a racially diverse group, there's Latinos as white as George Bush. Some are black, some are even Asian and mixed. You clearly are following stereotypes of what this ethnic group should look like.

Mistake #1: Assuming I don't know what I'm talking about.
Mistake #2: Explaining the obvious.

Latinos come from various racial backgrounds as you have stated, no ****. Now, there is a strong population of mixed latinos. I'll take the largest latino ethnic group, Mexicans. Mexicans are largely mixed of mestizo and white. Thus giving many racially ambiguous features. Many of these Mexicans do not know how to identify racially so they just say white, and why do they say white (refer to my other post)? Mexicans that are entirely European are about what 10-20% but these are estimates because Mexico doesn't have racial census.

Dominicans, Puerto Ricans, Colombians are all racially mixed, I could go on. Which is why when that member asked if Latinos are mostly white I said no. To claim they are just white erases their other ancestry. Don't come and assume I don't know anything, that's one thing you WON'T do.

[Tropez]

Originally posted by Deuces

Mistake #1: Assuming I don't know what I'm talking about.
Mistake #2: Explaining the obvious.

Latinos come from various racial backgrounds as you have stated, no ****. Now, there is a strong population of mixed latinos. I'll take the largest latino ethnic group, Mexicans. Mexicans are largely mixed of mestizo and white. Thus giving many racially ambiguous features. Many of these Mexicans do not know how to identify racially so they just say white, and why do they say white (refer to my other post)? Mexicans that are entirely European are about what 10-20% but these are estimates because Mexico doesn't have racial census.

Dominicans, Puerto Ricans, Colombians are all racially mixed, I could go on. Which is why when that member asked if Latinos are mostly white I said no. To claim they are just white erases their other ancestry. Don't come and assume I don't know anything, that's one thing you WON'T do.

But it is much more complicated. Because you do have people in those countries who are not mixed at all, and others who are. Plus I, nor the official census on this population, considers themselves just white. I can bet that many wouldn't go out of their way to refer to themselves as white. At the end of the day I'm not gonna waste my time of this, because race doesn't exist.

[manwhore]

Reclaiming our native lands. Miley Cyrus said it best, we came in like a wrecking ball!

[XXXO]

Originally posted by Tropez

But it is much more complicated. Because you do have people in those countries who are not mixed at all, and others who are. Plus I, nor the official census on this population, considers themselves just white. I can bet that many wouldn't go out of their way to refer to themselves as white. At the end of the day I'm not gonna waste my time of this, because race doesn't exist.

Depends on the country, Argentina and Chile has like all population white. While Cuba, Brazil are majority black. But then you have Ecuador, Peru Or Bolivia where half of population are descents of native American and European people, and this kind is what most people relate to "Latino" race.

Latinos are not even a race as Americans think.