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Originally posted by ezra
And this is all we need to be teaching men about sexual violence? Wow.
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Oh FFS...
When did I ever say that it was the
only thing they need to be taught? I just said that maybe, in
addition to teaching men that they shouldn't rape, we should teach them that, yes,
they can be raped as well. We can say that, no, you're not "lucky" that your social studies teacher diddled your balls when you were 11. You were violated and taken advantage of, and Ms. Nesbit deserves to go to
jail.
Why is that so horrible to you?
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Btw Rape Perpetrators are nearly exclusively male, as well.
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Yeah, if you define rape to exclude being made to penetrate.
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Don't you think there should be some sort of effort to teach men this type of a culture is vile? No? Wow.
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Jesus Christ.
Why is this a zero sum game to you? Why does teaching men that they can be raped automatically mean that we
stop teaching them not to rape?
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Where did I use the words "more important". I'm simply stating what all the numbers everywhere ever have stated: that the most prevalent and dangerous form of rape tends to be men raping women.
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Except, you know, the numbers I've been listing over and over again since this thread began. But no, 1,270,000 is WAAAAAAAY more than 1,267,000. It's almost 1% more!
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I don't know why you're trying to conflate the issue into a "but its JUST THE SAME!!11" thing, but you're wrong. I've made it clear that there's no Olympic battle between which is worse But one is much more of an issue.
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Again, this isn't a zero sum game. We can teach both men
and women that nobody has the right to touch them if they don't want it. And we can teach them
both that we expect them to give the same respect to other people.
You know, at this point, I think it's best if we just agree to disagree. I'm tired of talking about this.