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Member Since: 11/22/2010
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Originally posted by TikiMiss
You don't know me, but if you did, you would know I never walk back my comments, especially ones that are both valid and correct
I said there's no such thing as "white feminism" which is true. The only people who talk about it are supposed "black feminists" (as they call themselves) and people who have an agenda to pit white feminists against black feminists when they often overlap and are pretty much supportive of each other.
You keep falling hook line and sinker into the conspiracy to divide EVERYONE and it's just hilarious that you think this divineness is going to result in any progress. Dividing people into groups isn't going to make these supposed other groups sympathetic it's just going to get people to look out for the dividing lines and make sure to support whoever they have been subdivisioned into supporting
It's like those dumb feminazis that yell at men for participating in feminism by saying men aren't women so there's no reason for them to even bother being a part of the movement like just really? As much as you think your little picket lines and tumblr posts are going to change the world, how about stepping up in the real world and fighting for those jobs that are currently held by men? That's going to end the discrimination. Not you screaming in their faces about how they will never understand and about how privileged they are
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the inflationary usage of smilies in your post speak for itself. Poor stupid you.
Whoever thinks that there's too much talking about these issues IS the issue. Grab yourself a good book, folks, and stop running away from education like it's some kinda new Katy Perry album.
Now, let me enjoy my warning points, and chuckle over the fact that the good lord blessed me with two/three billion more brain cells than the average ATRL user because the ignorance in this thread is off the charts.
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Member Since: 12/9/2009
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Originally posted by TikiMiss
That's an inference though If it were Jessica Alba making that statement, no one would have said a peep simply because Jessica Alba is Mexican-American instead of white The truth is, there has been a LOT of focus on LGBT rights over the last several years, as well as black rights with the national profile cases in Ferguson, NYC, etc, and women have been a huge part of the voices for both. Maybe she worded it badly, but no where is it stated that white women need support too as opposed to ALL women should be afforded equal pay, etc etc. It's LITERALLY a case of skewering the messenger
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The rest of this is nonsense because I don't agree with your first statement. Jessica Alba is a white woman (mostly). Hispanic is an ethnic label, not a race label. She's obviously not just white but that irrelevant.
Anyways, if someone very clearly non-white said this, it would be still problematic but not as problematic. A POC asking for other POC to join the movement would obviously be directed at non-female identifying individuals...If Patricia meant POC men and gay men, she would have said that. And if she did, why single out them and not all men. It's all just fishy, there's really no good excuse for her comment, she said something stupid. Also, It's a logical inference to make, so idk why you make it seem like an inference is suddenly invalid.
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Im pretty sure she just meant everyone. Yall are soo race crazy sometimes like chill out..
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Originally posted by XXCUZ
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the inflationary usage of smilies in your post speak for itself. Poor stupid you.
Whoever thinks that there's too much talking about these issues IS the issue. Grab yourself a good book, folks, and stop running away from education like it's some kinda new Katy Perry album.
Now, let me enjoy my warning points, and chuckle over the fact that the good lord blessed me with two/three billion more brain cells than the average ATRL user because the ignorance in this thread is off the charts.
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way to dodge all my points with little anecdotes and popcorn puffery Glad to see that when you lose a debate, you lose it disgracefully. Nice talking.
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Originally posted by Newt
The rest of this is nonsense because I don't agree with your first statement. Jessica Alba is a white woman (mostly). Hispanic is an ethnic label, not a race label. She's obviously not just white but that irrelevant.
Anyways, if someone very clearly non-white said this, it would be still problematic but not as problematic. A POC asking for other POC to join the movement would obviously be directed at non-female identifying individuals...If Patricia meant POC men and gay men, she would have said that. And if she did, why single out them and not all men. It's all just fishy, there's really no good excuse for her comment, she said something stupid. Also, It's a logical inference to make, so idk why you make it seem like an inference is suddenly invalid.
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It shouldn't matter what body the message came out of. It's the content that is important. Frankly, I find a lot wrong with Patricia's statement, but not in the ways that most POC's/Gays seem to have. But whatever If everyone is too busy arguing about who gets to and doesn't get to be a part of the solution to ending discrimination instead of actually proposing sound solutions, then this isn't the conversation I want to be a part of anyways.
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I really don't think Patrica meant it the way people are taking it.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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I just ... It isn't about race though all she wanted was for women to get equal pay.
Why are people so mad at her? She could have snatched her award and left but instead she tried to bring people together for a cause and now she (Patricia) feels like she did something wrong for trying to help . What did people want her to say? "We need equal pay for women.... oh and especially black women" How is she suppose to know that every black woman makes 35 cents less . I just... he needs to chill a bit I understand he's coming from a genuine place but he is just doing too much on her. btw im black.
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Member Since: 11/28/2011
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Originally posted by Bulldog
I just ... It isn't about race though all she wanted was for women to get equal pay.
Why are people so mad at her? She could have snatched her award and left but instead she tried to bring people together for a cause and now she (Patricia) feels like she did something wrong for trying to help . What did people want her to say? "We need equal pay for women.... oh and especially black women" How is she suppose to know that every black woman makes 35 cents less . I just... he needs to chill a bit I understand he's coming from a genuine place but he is just doing too much on her. btw im black.
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I just think there was something not well received about her commanding POC to help women become richer, meanwhile POC are getting shot by cops in cold blood. It really doesn't marry well. Especially there are things even more pertinent majorly to black female experience didn't even get a mention in that speech. So in a way, it did sound like help the white women.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Blue Jeans
I was talking opportunities applying to college. There are a lot of grants and gov't support for Black people.
Have you applied to a college in USA? Have you applied for scholarships? Have you seen that there are organizations to support Black people?
This is great, and I don't see how they have less opportunities
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Sis...
In 2012, white people received the most scholarship $ of any race, with over $1.8 billion in scholarship money. The next highest group was black people with approximately $345 million. According to the same study, less than five percent of all scholarships involve race as a key factor in determining scholarship winners.
And this is all for the United States.
Nice try.
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white people in here saying "i'm tired of hearing about race" ...
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Member Since: 8/31/2012
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Originally posted by LanaDelSex
Sis...
In 2012, white people received the most scholarship $ of any race, with over $1.8 billion in scholarship money. The next highest group was black people with approximately $345 million. According to the same study, less than five percent of all scholarships involve race as a key factor in determining scholarship winners.
And this is all for the United States.
Nice try.
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White people also make up 70-80% of the population, so how is getting 70-80% of the money wrong exactly?
And that $345 Million is for black people only, not counting Asian people and Latinos.
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Member Since: 11/10/2011
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Originally posted by DejaVu
white people in here saying "i'm tired of hearing about race" ...
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I agree. If we're going to live in a multi-cultural society, you can't ignore race. Life is 10x more difficult for black people, how can we expect them to stop talking about it when it's an issue that effects them 24/7 for their entire lives. Honestly, I feel extremely sorry for black people, and I am thankful everyday that I'm (mainly) white. They're never going to live the life I get to live, at the very least we can listen to them and acknowledge their problems.
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Member Since: 2/2/2009
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Originally posted by OnlyXtina
And of course its a man. I cant. So sick of men and gay men trying to speak against feminism and about feminist like they know everything. Thats why its called feminism it the first place, to fight for womens right. This mans views remain irrelevant.
And feminism has nothing to do with race, its about women, women of all color. Stop trying to categorize everything.
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A very big part (If not the biggest) of Feminism here in Germany are males. Of course a lot are gay men but you don't have to be female to bring something to the Feminism-table.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Blue Jeans
I'm DONE with all racial topics all over ATRL and tumblr This has turned into such a borefest
Just live your lives and love people
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lol, im sure you find it boring but the millions and millions of people discriminated against and being killed because of being a different color need the equal rights and everything else white people have and until that happen not only for blacks but for everyone who isnt white it needs to be talked about every single day.
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Originally posted by DejaVu
white people in here saying "i'm tired of hearing about race" ...
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im tired of getting racially profiled/discriminated!
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Member Since: 5/14/2011
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Originally posted by artpop
categorising feminism by race does nothing for progress
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That would be great if many of the white feminists throughout history also advocated for the rights of women of color.
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Member Since: 1/3/2014
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Originally posted by Elusive Chanteuse
I really don't think Patrica meant it the way people are taking it.
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This. People this day and age are just really ****ing messy on the internet.
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Member Since: 8/10/2012
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Some of y'all are so dumb and ignorant, it's unbelievable.
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Originally posted by Reza
the only people who keep bringing these topics up is black atrl members they seem to be obsessed with race issues and everything that surrounds them. I feel bad for them honestly.
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The worst thing about this post is that I don't even think you're being sarcastic...
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Wait though, I never heard Patrica say white women? She was talking bout all women in Hollywood right or am I seeing this wrong?
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