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Discussion: The most manufactured pop star
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Originally posted by Planet Mars
And don't try it with that BS you as well as everybody knows damn well that Madonna and Janet are the Blue print not Britney.  |
These women debuted in the 80s  They're far from being the "blueprints." There's 60 years of recorded music history that you're missing there.
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Originally posted by swissman
But it's not as if she invented pop music, or teen pop for that matter. She merely took the place of the Spice Girls.
Maybe she had more involvement when she was young, but today she is manufactured in that she is not very actively involved in her music or image (you just have to watch the I Am Britney Jean documentary to see that) and is merely a body associated with a brand. There isn't any personality to her anymore, she's a product on stage.
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Vegas happened solely because she wanted to be able to spend time with her kids. She could earn so much more on tour so why would her team decide to give themselves paycuts?  Like a ticket for Britney Spears, for me, just went from $100 to $400 because I now have to fly to see her, buy a hotel, etc. and it's not like that money solely goes to her. Her own manager has commented on wishing she would have done a world tour instead because it earns more money
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Britney Spears, and reality TV products like 1D.
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Even though Britney was manufactured she still ***** on your faces tbh
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Originally posted by Eternium
These women debuted in the 80s They're far from being the "blueprints." There's 60 years of recorded music history that you're missing there.
Vegas happened solely because she wanted to be able to spend time with her kids. She could earn so much more on tour so why would her team decide to give themselves paycuts? Like a ticket for Britney Spears, for me, just went from $100 to $400 because I now have to fly to see her, buy a hotel, etc. and it's not like that money solely goes to her. Her own manager has commented on wishing she would have done a world tour instead because it earns more money |
Sorry but what does this have to do with Britney being or not being a manufactured star? I don't see the connection.
When I mentioned her tour I referred to moments like:
Someone: Okay Britney, we're going to show you your costumes now.
Britney: Oh wow. Cool. I like that. It looks nice. I'm going to wear that?
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Britney Spears
Boybands
Justin Bieber
Lady Gaga(it's very different with her though because ,in a way ,she manufactures herself if that makes sense)
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Originally posted by swissman
Another contender would be Katy Perry. Her image to me is incredibly gimmicky and thus manufactured. She's nearly 30 but is styled like a host of a children's TV show. It's incredibly engineered pop music to simply appeal to as many people as possible, and especially to those who are buying pop music: young people. There's no risk involved and so it feels very by-the-numbers.
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But she's demonstrated multiple times that she in very in charge of her image and her career. So if she chooses to dress that way and make fun pop music but is at the helm of it all, can you really call her manufactured?
But I agree, her image fits the whole "manufactured" thing perfectly, even though it isn't. Food for thought.
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Originally posted by Eternium
These women debuted in the 80s They're far from being the "blueprints." There's 60 years of recorded music history that you're missing there |
Who's the blueprint then Josephine Baker?
Janet and Madonna are probably the first two who really sculpted the image of the sexualized modern female popstar.
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Britney Spears. She still provides some bops every now and then tho so it's all good.
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Britney Spears was told what to and how to do it. That was the LABELS vision, not hers. That whole bubble gum pop era was nothing but manufactured pop stars.
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Originally posted by h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e
But she's demonstrated multiple times that she in very in charge of her image and her career. So if she chooses to dress that way and make fun pop music but is at the helm of it all, can you really call her manufactured?
But I agree, her image fits the whole "manufactured" thing perfectly, even though it isn't. Food for thought.
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I don't think that being in control will automatically always mean you're not manufactured though.
In Katy's case, maybe she is in control, but her musical output seems manufactured solely for pop radio not for her as an artist. Instead of being experimental or taking risks which show a bit of disregard for the cookie-cutter ideas of a manufactured star, she conforms to it.
Her image also may be her choice but it's also one of the most commercial images in the pop industry. I doubt that's a mistake.
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Originally posted by Eternium
So manufacturing a false image is not the same thing as being manufactured? What kind of reverse Warholian teas |
Maybe we're thinking of different things. I think of manufactured as someone a label saw potential in, snatched them up, and did all they could to make he/she a star, with minimal input on the artists part.
Bey might not like bad pictures of her going viral, but for example a member of Parkwood said she personally approves every image that is posted on her site. That's called having total control. Vein? Maybe, but she's not being manufactured by the board members and executives.
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Ya Lucas32 is right. Boybands for sure.
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Originally posted by PULSE.
Britney Spears was told what to and how to do it. That was the LABELS vision, not hers. That whole bubble gum pop era was not but manufactured pop stars.
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And Beyonce's father didn't help her????? OH PLEASE wake up and start making sense.
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Originally posted by hardbrit
And Beyonce's father didn't help her????? OH PLEASE wake up and start making sense.
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He did but Beyonce did costuming, wrote music and really pushed herself and the girls when it came to promotion. In reality however no female artist as a teenager has much control over her career.
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Originally posted by hardbrit
And Beyonce's father didn't help her????? OH PLEASE wake up and start making sense.
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He was her manager. What do you think it is that managers do?
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Originally posted by hardbrit
And Beyonce's father didn't help her????? OH PLEASE wake up and start making sense.
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Beyonce and her father would go at it. And NOTHING was booked until Beyonce said so. Beyonce had a say in every part of her career. Every artist has a manager. And now Beyonce is her own manager.
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At this point, Madonna is seeming a bit manufactured as well. She's always been so high-concept and so amazing with her music, but lately she's merely replicating the sound of the moment. Manufacturing a pop album based on what's popular not based on her interests and not really stepping out of boundaries of what we expect from her. It's all pin-up-boudoir looks and "serious" messages that really mean nothing whatever and sounds about letting loose and not caring.
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