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Discussion: Do you believe in "God"?
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Originally posted by keriihill
some christian ministries made a movie on Charles Darwin, not so much attacking him, but using real life evidence to show how weak his arguments, with the lack of detail that he used to support his theories. It's out in Australia. I saw it. Very interesting even from a athiest point of view. Not saying christianity is right (which it is) but there is a God.
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Show me. Where is that God of yours?
Is it the same god(s) that greeks worshipped? Or the same god indians did?
Or is christian God the one and only, true God?
Anyway, Darwin lived ages ago. One thing about science (something religions lack) is that theories can be disproven. If a theory can not be disproven, it is not science. It is dogma, it is "believing", it is religion. Darwin lived ages ago, as I was saying, and his theories have been reinforced sometimes and disproven in some parts. So there's nothing impressive about one documentary made in the 21st century (or end of 20th, i assume) that attacks scientific ideas of the 19th century. A high-school kid could disprove some of it as well.
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Im not saying people have to specifically believe in God, but I think it's kind of silly to say our complex world came out of nothing.
It had to being with some supernatural force. Energy didn't create itself.
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I believe in science more than religion.
The main reason I disliked religion is because is sooo damn overated here in Mexico.
Specially in small towns and cities people actually think everything and everybody turns around God and his church.
They make up huge celebrations, rituals and shows their huge devotion and that's like :-/
Besides the Vatican is sooo full of gold and money when they're supposed to be the simbol of faith for everyone.
I could say more than 30% of the people say they believe in religion because they are affraid of what could happen if they say they dont. I dont know where do we come from but there has to be a believable reason.
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hell yes! he is the only one dat will always be by ur side
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Originally posted by keriihill
God limited our capabitlities through five senses. He gave us a choice, to serve him or not. But because we are so limited, it shows us how much we need him. Others have decided to turn there backs, whilst others have decided to follow.
Of course God can do anything and give us minds to talk to each other, but that would make us self-trusting and tend to 'believe in ourselves' rather than our true maker, God.[/B]
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Why do you assume that would happen? Wouldn't we consider it as normal as speaking as we are doing right now? Doesn't speaking and expressing our ideas make us "self-trusting" and "tending to believe in ourselves"? Wouldn't you call what I'm doing right now "making myself self-trusting"?
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Originally posted by Raguabros
Show me. Where is that God of yours?
Is it the same god(s) that greeks worshipped? Or the same god indians did?
Or is christian God the one and only, true God?
Anyway, Darwin lived ages ago. One thing about science (something religions lack) is that theories can be disproven. If a theory can not be disproven, it is not science. It is dogma, it is "believing", it is religion. Darwin lived ages ago, as I was saying, and his theories have been reinforced sometimes and disproven in some parts. So there's nothing impressive about one documentary made in the 21st century (or end of 20th, i assume) that attacks scientific ideas of the 19th century. A high-school kid could disprove some of it as well.
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Correct, there is only one God. Christianity has never been disapproved or found out to be false, in any way.
As writing post the size of a book wouldn't be the best of ideas, i can hand you over to an easy-to-read website, which answers every question you may have.
http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/
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I most defintely believe in God, he was the one that created this earth we live in and we should grateful for it and when we die we can go to heaven and thank him for giving us this opportunity to live on the place he created.
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Originally posted by warriorsoul
I'm not a fan of the church or the bible though.
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Thats just like me! I make my family mad because I don't go to church every Sunday like they all do but I still go on Christmas and Easter, the two most important to me. I haven't even read the bible and I have a feeling I wouldn't get it at all.
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I don't go church but I believe there's a GOD that protect US
GOD is the creator of Universe and all things!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by Raguabros
Why do you assume that would happen? Wouldn't we consider it as normal as speaking as we are doing right now? Doesn't speaking and expressing our ideas make us "self-trusting" and "tending to believe in ourselves"? Wouldn't you call what I'm doing right now "making myself self-trusting"?
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Asking plain questions is not self-trusting. Believing that you can only do something if you 'believe in yourself' is self-trusting, depending on God for everything is what He wants.
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Originally posted by Mr.Link
I believe in science more than religion.
The main reason I disliked religion is because is sooo damn overated here in Mexico.
Specially in small towns and cities people actually think everything and everybody turns around God and his church.
They make up huge celebrations, rituals and shows their huge devotion and that's like :-/
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So if you lived in a town full of scientists who talked all day long about science you would be religious? What a dumb argument.
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Originally posted by Mr.Link
Besides the Vatican is sooo full of gold and money when they're supposed to be the simbol of faith for everyone.
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That's a good criticism for Christianism and other religions but the point here is the existence of God, not whatever dogma people construct around him or her or it, or whatever that thing is.
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Originally posted by Mr.Link
I could say more than 30% of the people say they believe in religion because they are affraid of what could happen if they say they dont. I dont know where do we come from but there has to be a believable reason.
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This is (part of) it.
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Originally posted by Raguabros
Why is it ridiculous?
Not nothingness. Energy.
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& who created energy???GOD!
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Originally posted by Matty
I most defintely believe in God, he was the one that created this earth we live in and we should grateful for it and when we die we can go to heaven and thank him for giving us this opportunity to live on the place he created.
Thats just like me! I make my family mad because I don't go to church every Sunday like they all do but I still go on Christmas and Easter, the two most important to me. I haven't even read the bible and I have a feeling I wouldn't get it at all.
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:-\ Sin is the gap between us and God. Going to church won't get you saved. Church enriches your relationship with God by being with fellow-believers and taking communion and laying your faith and burdens 'on the altar'. Church will by no means save you.
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Member Since: 5/1/2007
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Originally posted by keriihill
Correct, there is only one God. Christianity has never been disapproved or found out to be false, in any way.
As writing post the size of a book wouldn't be the best of ideas, i can hand you over to an easy-to-read website, which answers every question you may have.
http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/
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Has Islam, Judaism or one of the THOUSANDS of religions existent in the world "proven to be false"? Of course not. They can not be proven false 'cause they are based in believes and dogmas, which can not be proven false.
The fact they can't be proven false is totally separate from the consideration of their truthness or not.
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Originally posted by keriihill
:-\ Sin is the gap between us and God. Going to church won't get you saved. Church enriches your relationship with God by being with fellow-believers and taking communion and laying your faith and burdens 'on the altar'. Church will by no means save you.
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& this is what A LOT of ppl need to realize.
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Member Since: 5/1/2007
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Originally posted by chi-town_kidd
& who created energy???GOD!
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NO ONE CREATED IT.
It just "existed". But its existence, its PLAIN EXISTENCE is something we could never understand cause we set our minds to understand the world as we know it (we can't do otherwise; we can't imagine or think of things we don't know or we haven't seen; for ex. when someone talks to us about extraterrestrial life we always imagine human-like beings, or at least something with eyes, with arms; we cannot think of things we don't know). We can not understand how it all began because it is beyond our capability of knowing.
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Member Since: 5/21/2009
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Originally posted by keriihill
:-\ Sin is the gap between us and God. Going to church won't get you saved. Church enriches your relationship with God by being with fellow-believers and taking communion and laying your faith and burdens 'on the altar'. Church will by no means save you.
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Member Since: 5/21/2009
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Originally posted by Raguabros
NO ONE CREATED IT.
It just "existed". But its existence, its PLAIN EXISTENCE is something we could never understand cause we set our minds to understand the world as we know it (we can't do otherwise; we can't imagine or think of things we don't know or we haven't seen; for ex. when someone talks to us about extraterrestrial life we always imagine human-like beings, or at least something with eyes, with arms; we cannot think of things we don't know). We can not understand how it all began because it is beyond our capability of knowing.
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Interesting....
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Member Since: 5/5/2009
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Originally posted by Raguabros
NO ONE CREATED IT.
It just "existed". But its existence, its PLAIN EXISTENCE is something we could never understand cause we set our minds to understand the world as we know it (we can't do otherwise; we can't imagine or think of things we don't know or we haven't seen; for ex. when someone talks to us about extraterrestrial life we always imagine human-like beings, or at least something with eyes, with arms; we cannot think of things we don't know). We can not understand how it all began because it is beyond our capability of knowing.
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I'm tryna be nice but you sound so stupid right now.
You basically created this thread just to try to convince ppl that God isn't real.
Without God, you,me,& anyone else or anything else wouldn't be here.
Yo theory of "existence" is a FAIL.
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Yes i do. and i Love Him so much.
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