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Discussion: Should Math be a Requirement?
Member Since: 9/4/2011
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Originally posted by Arioso
And why are you pretending I or anyone else would think it happens instantly? That's kind of, like, exactly the opposite of what I'm arguing. Clearly that sort of thing is not instant and clearly it's not present in, say, a high school freshman's mind - poll them, I'd guarantee you that nearly 99% hate math at that point. Then go take a look at the percentage of jobs that require mathematical skills. That's where you'll see the discrepancy, and you'll see where people change their minds.
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If they do change their mind, which will be very few, they can just study it in college, like all the other majors. And when they regret not taking high level math in high school, we can be like "Well you shoulda took that opportunity, son, we told you so" since we love blaming students.
And ya most jobs don't require anything higher than pre-calc.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Sam
Mess, yes we do. I forgot that it was just "math" in the US. We don't say "millions" though. 6 million, 3 million etc.
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You learn something new every day. I'm glad I didn't try to grammar check everyone that said "maths."
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Originally posted by Anvarie
What do I need math to know how to use measuring tape
Yea I don't think you guys gets that for some people math will never be an option
It's not "its boring I don't like it"
It's more like I'm terrible at it and I struggle to do well
So it's crystal clear I will not involve myself in any careers that require it at all
And if it's something simple like for example a chef needing to figure out measurements for a dinner party of 30 people I could easily figure out the answer on the Internet or whatever
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If you knew math, you could figure that out in less time it would take to type it in to Google
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Originally posted by Nonchalant
Brits say 'maths' too, and considering it is the colloquial version of mathematics I'd say we're right.
No one says 6 millions though that's just incorrect English.
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Sis, no. "Mathematics" is not actually plural. It uses singular verbs. Maths is the plural form of math.
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Member Since: 1/25/2012
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Stop whining and just do your damn work.
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 3/22/2012
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Originally posted by MiMiLamb
If they do change their mind, which will be very few, they can just study it in college, like all the other majors. And when they regret not taking high level math in high school, we can be like "Well you shoulda took that opportunity, son, we told you so" since we love blaming students.
And ya most jobs don't require anything higher than pre-calc.
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But whoops, the college doesn't accept you / won't have math courses for you because suddenly, just because you now could, you didn't take enough.
As far as jobs, pre-calc is actually quite a lot higher than a lot of math topics called "unnecessary" in this thread.
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Member Since: 9/4/2011
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And so far, no one has posted an example of needing to use high level math in your everyday life.
Here's something that will support y'all's claim, solve this problem if you want to @ me.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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There's absolutely no need for Geometry, Algebra, and Calculus to be taught as anything other than electives.
Stats should probably be a requirement tho, it's the only useful one. All the others should be replaced with real-life skills class. I don't need to know that triangle theorem when I don't even know how to pay taxes.
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Member Since: 8/29/2012
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Originally posted by MiMiLamb
And so far, no one has posted an example of needing to use high level math in your everyday life.
Here's something that will support y'all's claim, solve this problem if you want to @ me.
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ddd true. -2/3 tho.
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Member Since: 9/4/2011
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Originally posted by Arioso
But whoops, the college doesn't accept you / won't have math courses for you because suddenly, just because you now could, you didn't take enough.
As far as jobs, pre-calc is actually quite a lot higher than a lot of math topics called "unnecessary" in this thread.
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Colleges will change their math requirements too..
You're right, even pre-calc isn't used in life.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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I think it should be required for like the first 1 or 2 years.
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 3/22/2012
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Originally posted by MiMiLamb
You're right, even pre-calc isn't used in life.
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Complete misinterpretation of my post, but kay.
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Member Since: 2/16/2010
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Math skills are VITAL. So yes!
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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The law is everywhere in our lives, so let's make advanced law a requirement for all students!
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Member Since: 4/24/2011
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Originally posted by vamp
No. management/accounting>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>computer science>>>>>>>>>>>> math
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They all include maths lmao
In fact, managment/accounting AND computer science are the most direct practical real life applications of maths.
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Member Since: 6/28/2010
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If you practice math it is not hard barely ever.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Element
There's the /endthread/ post.
The world is math. It is a living, breathing concept that applies to so many disciplines and fields. Even in the arts and humanities, it is important. If you guys haven't heard of it, look up The Golden Ratio and how it applies directly to the aesthetics of the world (including the attractiveness of the human body). I use math in my graphic design work too. Measurements and layout in art are directly associated with numbers.
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!!!
People don't realize how important mathematical concepts are in life. They can apply to almost anything!
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 3/22/2012
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Originally posted by downbywednesday
The law is everywhere in our lives, so let's make advanced law a requirement for all students!
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Why this nonsense comparison again? Advanced law isn't as basic as the ideas of finding area, fitting enough people at a table, and other examples thrown out in this thread.
I mean, sure some people are pretending that this is all solely about higher math, but it's not.
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Member Since: 8/31/2013
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Arioso
Why this nonsense comparison again? Advanced law isn't as basic as the ideas of finding area, fitting enough people at a table, and other examples thrown out in this thread.
I mean, sure some people are pretending that this is all solely about higher math, but it's not.
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All the courses I had to take in high school were advanced, non-applicable math courses like Geometry, Algebra, Pre-Cal, etc.
And they still don't teach basic law in school, even though it's actually necessary to function.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Why are people actually acting like you need, Geometry, for example, in real life.
What if I wanna be a psychologist or something?
Good thing I knew how to find the circumference of a circle!
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