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Poll: Is Taylor already bigger than Brittney?
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Yes
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Originally posted by KareBear
Britney's "impact" is mostly nostalgia and limited to people born in the 90s and earlier. She is a non factor now. The biggest thing she's known for unfortunately is her breakdown. If you ask any teen and younger now they probably cant name 1 Britney song. Everyone else,even from Britney's generation, only like Baby One More Time and Oops..I Did it Again. The rest of her discography is completely irrelevant. Go to the streets now and there's a plethora of Taylor songs people will know. Britney's time is long over.. #Hatersgonnahate
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Just like how people remember Taylor for her relationships or the Kanye incident? no one cares about Taylor outside her music at all.
She's always relevant from August till February-March every 2 years because a new era + she's only a factor in North America and a few Asian countries.
And her pop catalog sales are so bad, far worse than Britney and Taylor is recent.
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Originally posted by KareBear
Britney's "impact" is mostly nostalgia and limited to people born in the 90s and earlier. She is a non factor now. The biggest thing she's known for unfortunately is her breakdown. If you ask any teen and younger now they probably cant name 1 Britney song. Everyone else,even from Britney's generation, only like Baby One More Time and Oops..I Did it Again. The rest of her discography is completely irrelevant. Go to the streets now and there's a plethora of Taylor songs people will know. Britney's time is long over.. #Hatersgonnahate
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Even if all these assumptions you're making are true, what is the relevance of it? You're comparing two artists: one with a current peak and one with a past peak. Of course one is going to have more nostalgia and the other will be more known to the younger generation.
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Originally posted by Eternium
Britney's greatest hits has incrediblye catalogue sales and I seem to remember your fave performing some of those forgotten hits like "Lucky" on the Speak Now Tour.
Britney actually had clones like Christina Aguilera, Jessica Simpson, Miley Cyrus, etc., had non-U.S. clones like BoA, Anastacia, etc. and even had a counter-culture consisting of anti-Britneys like Avril Lavigne, P!nk, Willa Ford, etc. And that's just scratching the surface
Taylor is great but her songs aren't nearly as big and she is definitely not as globally known. Don't make me post non-U.S. stats because I genuinely have loved Taylor since "Tim McGraw."
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XTina was not a Britney clone
You'll send her to an early grave if she hears that! And Miley is clearly trying to be a mini Madonna with all the controversy.
And just because someone's career/persona was the opposite of Britney doesn't mean the were influenced by her at all. They were just artists who got compared bc of the differences. Britney is just a clone of Janet anyway who got lucky that her legacy was erased by the media so they used Britney as a replacement.
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Originally posted by Eternium
Britney's greatest hits has incrediblye catalogue sales and I seem to remember your fave performing some of those forgotten hits like "Lucky" on the Speak Now Tour.
Britney actually had clones like Christina Aguilera, Jessica Simpson, Miley Cyrus, etc., had non-U.S. clones like BoA, Anastacia, etc. and even had a counter-culture consisting of anti-Britneys like Avril Lavigne, P!nk, Willa Ford, etc. And that's just scratching the surface
Taylor is great but her songs aren't nearly as big and she is definitely not as globally known. Don't make me post non-U.S. stats because I genuinely have loved Taylor since "Tim McGraw."
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This.
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Originally posted by KareBear
Britney's "impact" is mostly nostalgia and limited to people born in the 90s and earlier. She is a non factor now. The biggest thing she's known for unfortunately is her breakdown. If you ask any teen and younger now they probably cant name 1 Britney song. Everyone else,even from Britney's generation, only like Baby One More Time and Oops..I Did it Again. The rest of her discography is completely irrelevant. Go to the streets now and there's a plethora of Taylor songs people will know. Britney's time is long over.. #Hatersgonnahate
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I didn't grow up with Britney's generation, but the Katy/Gaga/Jonas Brothers/Miley generation so that nostalgia card is not for me . Britney's streaming power was actually somewhat comparable to Taylor until the 1989 era. WANEGBT isn't too far ahead of IWG. And according to Forbes, they about matched each other until 2013.
Britney's greatest hits sells to this day, and is streamed to this day and is added in pop culutre to this day. Oops was in Boyhood and is used in several headlines, Toxic is being curated for the 50 Shades of Grey movie and is also a good catalog seller/recurrent streams. BOMT is covered by major artists like every two months.
Taylor's demographic are mainly teenyboppers, from my experience
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Originally posted by KareBear
XTina was not a Britney clone
You'll send her to an early grave if she hears that! And Miley is clearly trying to be a mini Madonna with all the controversy.
And just because someone's career/persona was the opposite of Britney doesn't mean the were influenced by her at all. They were just artists who got compared bc of the differences. Britney is just a clone of Janet anyway who got lucky that her legacy was erased by the media so they used Britney as a replacement.
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Christina Aguilera in her first album was definitely modelled after the Britney blueprint. She stepped away from that but there is no denying that Christina was Britney #2 (but with a better voice).
And Eternium didn't say Avril, etc. were influenced by Britney, but that Britney's persona created a counter-culture which is a very powerful thing. For you to impact culture that much that there is a backlash is hugely telling of your impact.
And yes Britney was very much like Janet in regards to having a soft voice and her dance style, but they make entirely different types of music so I wouldn't go claiming "clone" here. Also Janet was still very popular when Britney first starting slaying.
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Imapct wise, no
Success wise only in the USA.
So no, and I like Taylor more than Brit.
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No. She's bigger than Brit ever was in the US though.
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Yes she's been bigger than Britney ever was since 2006
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No, but she's getting there.
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Yes. Lots of people in this thread are delusional.
The fact that Taylor is selling like it's 1999 in this market is AMAZING yet people are bringing up receipts over a decade ago.
No one will ever sell that many albums in our lifetime again. There needs to be an adjustment for inflation and the market today
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Originally posted by KareBear
XTina was not a Britney clone
You'll send her to an early grave if she hears that! And Miley is clearly trying to be a mini Madonna with all the controversy.
And just because someone's career/persona was the opposite of Britney doesn't mean the were influenced by her at all. They were just artists who got compared bc of the differences. Britney is just a clone of Janet anyway who got lucky that her legacy was erased by the media so they used Britney as a replacement.
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Xtina has even gone on record to say her first album was her label forcing her to follow Britney.
Mini-Madonna? What? Please, just stop
Do you not know what a counter-culture is? P!nk and Avril even openly talked about leading it ("tired of being compared to damn Britney Spears/ She's so pretty/ That just ain't me").
Janet was definitely one of Britney's biggest influences but Britney took from Mariah, Madonna, Bjork, TLC, etc., too. If she just took from Janet, she'd make R&B music without melisma
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Originally posted by slobro
TEA (album sales + downloads/10) during Britney's peak:
Year - TEA
1999 - 3,183,000,000
2000 - 3,112,000,000
2001 - 2,908,000,000
During Taylor's peak:
2012 - 1,291,700,000
2013 - 1,197,600,000
2014 - 1,066,500,000
As usual, your comparisons heavily favor Britney (by three times in this case).
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The roof was the same in 1999 as it was in 2012 (see: 21). The difference is Britney actually got close to the roof whereas Taylor's peak never even got halfway there.
Btw, why are you withholding SEAs?
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Originally posted by Toxicity.
Britney's peak lasted like 2 years. Taylor has yet to peak. And she has 7 Grammys. She wins. No one cares about how many albums Britney sold or how many BOP teen magazines she covered back in 1999
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Taylor peaked with Fearless. It sold more WW than 1989, "Love Story" sold more in the U.S. than "Shake It Off" sold WW, "You Belong With Me" sold more in the U.S. than "Blank Space" has done WW, etc.
Taylor's peak was less than half as big as Britney's. Poor you
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Taylor = Beyonce, Britney,Rihanna
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Originally posted by phreshprince
Yes. Lots of people in this thread are delusional.
The fact that Taylor is selling like it's 1999 in this market is AMAZING yet people are bringing up receipts over a decade ago.
No one will ever sell that many albums in our lifetime again. There needs to be an adjustment for inflation and the market today
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Exactly. Taylor almost broke Britneys record in 2014! Britney ain't sh*t
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Not worldwide and in the US it's debatable.
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No
Both are my favz after GaGa, so I'm not biased but she's nowhere near Brit's career.
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Probably yeah.
Brits success during her time was not that much bigger than many of her peers. Meanwhile Taylor is demolishing her competition.
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