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Celeb News: Idris Elba can't play Bond because he's black.
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I mean, Bond is an old character.
Why not come up with a new BLACK hero? Getting off of Bond alone, I think it's just silly at this point to keep rehashing the old. Be revolutionary, please. Why not get some creativity and make Idris Elba his own iconic secret agent style character?
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Originally posted by Deuces
Goku (the main character) was made by Japanese creators. He is originally Japanese, he is original voiced by a Japanese person...however Hollywood thought it would be cute to make him look like this:
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Like i said obviously because the people who created it in Hollywood as you said were White, so they wanted to create more something that they themselves personally could relate to.
I do think maybe they did change him maybe to have mass appeal now that i think about though. But then i doubt a white person being considered as having mass appeal is a product of the hollywood producers but more how euro-centric everything/people is/are. Like am sure you can even agree with me that even POC (Black, Asian e.t.c) think of white people as having mass appeal, i wouldn't blame the studios or white people really
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And? Why is that wrong? To change an iconic character's race is just unnecessary, just like with Annie. Imagine the outrage if they made a remake of That's So Raven with a white girl as Raven, and rightfully so, that just wouldn't work.
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Originally posted by GanjaSebert
And? Why is that wrong? To change an iconic character's race is just unnecessary, just like with Annie. Imagine the outrage if they made a remake of That's So Raven with a white girl as Raven, and rightfully so, that just wouldn't work.
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Good point. Like if this happened it would be an Iggy Azealea type of situation where people accuse her of taking something from Black people. Kind of a double-standard if you will.
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Oh come on. I'm not trying to downplay racial issues here, but why are you all advocating against movies like Exodus just because they have white people playing egyptians? You are well aware that the auditions for a role can go either way! The best black actors I'm aware of are Denzel Washington, Will Smith, Idris Elba, Morgan Freeman, Jamie Foxx, Samuel L Jackson, and few others. The only one of this lot who would fit well on an "Exodus" type movie is Idris Elba.
I'm not against him playing Bond, I'm all out for diversity in Hollywood, but stop playing the race card every chance you get. Sometimes it's really good to advocate against these racial differences, which I think are stupid and disgusting, but sometimes it just makes you look dumb and one dimensional.
STOP!
There are a lot of movies which are played by black people (AMAZING movies) and they get the credit they deserve! So stop making every single thing a racial issue!
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Originally posted by RainDreamer
Like i said obviously because the people who created it in Hollywood as you said were White, so they wanted to create more something that they themselves personally could relate to.
I do think maybe they did change him maybe to have mass appeal now that i think about though. But then i doubt a white person being considered as having mass appeal is a product of the hollywood producers but more how euro-centric everything/people is/are. Like am sure you can even agree with me that even POC (Black, Asian e.t.c) think of white people as having mass appeal, i wouldn't blame the studios or white people really
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At least you recognize that everything is euro-centric and aren't spewing that "it's not about race, we're all humans !!!11!" ********.
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Originally posted by Wii
Why black people complaining about everything lately, it's getting annoying and i'm not even white so don't quote my post and scream racist
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You don't have to be white to be a racist. Or dumb as ****.
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Originally posted by GanjaSebert
And? Why is that wrong? To change an iconic character's race is just unnecessary, just like with Annie. Imagine the outrage if they made a remake of That's So Raven with a white girl as Raven, and rightfully so, that just wouldn't work.
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So they can change the actor to men of diffrent ages sizes and to a irish man but because this one is black its a problem.
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Member Since: 8/31/2013
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i'm sorry but neither could a woman, because james bond is a male
neither could an animal, because james bond is a human
neither could someone with no legs or arms or whatever, because james bond has arms + legs
this is not discrimination people, this is portraying a character
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Originally posted by Haburo
i'm sorry but neither could a woman, because james bond is a male
neither could an animal, because james bond is a human
neither could someone with no legs or arms or whatever, because james bond has arms + legs
this is not discrimination people, this is portraying a character
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It becomes discrimination when a clear double standard is present.
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Originally posted by GanjaSebert
And? Why is that wrong? To change an iconic character's race is just unnecessary, just like with Annie. Imagine the outrage if they made a remake of That's So Raven with a white girl as Raven, and rightfully so, that just wouldn't work.
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Because Annie being white had nothing to do with her character. It was her curly hair.
Raven being black did have to do with her character. There were episodes where it should race being a problem.
A white person can't play Raven when Raven was denied a job and followed around a store because she was black.
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Originally posted by Deuces
It becomes discrimination when a clear double standard is present.
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nobody is going to cast angelina jolie or jennifer lawrence in a biopic about oprah because oprah is black and they are white, and nobody would be pissed off about that decision because its common sense
this is not discrimination, there is no double standard??? where is the double standard
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ATRL Senior Member
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Idris Elba would make a great Bond. **** what this guy thinks.
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Aside from Idris being black, I don't see what else would hold him back. He has the charm, looks and British accent. So, it all boils down to race. Funny how Angelina got away with playing a bi-racial woman, when you have Halle Berry, Paula Patton and other bi-racial women who could have played that role.
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Originally posted by bobbleheadroger
Oh come on. I'm not trying to downplay racial issues here, but why are you all advocating against movies like Exodus just because they have white people playing egyptians? You are well aware that the auditions for a role can go either way! The best black actors I'm aware of are Denzel Washington, Will Smith, Idris Elba, Morgan Freeman, Jamie Foxx, Samuel L Jackson, and few others. The only one of this lot who would fit well on an "Exodus" type movie is Idris Elba.
I'm not against him playing Bond, I'm all out for diversity in Hollywood, but stop playing the race card every chance you get. Sometimes it's really good to advocate against these racial differences, which I think are stupid and disgusting, but sometimes it just makes you look dumb and one dimensional.
STOP!
There are a lot of movies which are played by black people (AMAZING movies) and they get the credit they deserve! So stop making every single thing a racial issue!
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So you see no problem with completely rewriting and whitewashing history to make it seem like whites were Africans? This isn't a race card issue, it's Hollywood once again removing black people from history. And it's it not just black people who are being erased. It's all people of color.
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Originally posted by Haburo
nobody is going to cast angelina jolie or jennifer lawrence in a biopic about oprah because oprah is black and they are white, and nobody would be pissed off about that decision because its common sense
this is not discrimination, there is no double standard??? where is the double standard
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James Bond is a fictional character, not a real person like Oprah. I'm just clarifying in case you didn't know.
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I think it would be a bit hard to execute, because in 1950s the black British culture was so different from the whites, who were also much more racist than now. It would definitely change the movie a lot.
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Rush Limbaugh is a dumb fat ass prescription pill addicted conservative shock jock who is openly racist. No one with sense values his opinions or anything he has to say in general.
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I'm sorry but I honestly don't see the problem, I mean I do, but James Bond was always created as a White Scottish man... It just wouldn't make sense if he suddenly was black or asian or anything else...
They could always create a new movie series or something, it might not be fair and I'm not a racist so don't even try **** with me, I just personally would think it would be weird if Bond suddenly got changed. :/
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