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Discussion: Why is Rihanna criticized for not songwriting or producing?
Member Since: 6/24/2011
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I don't understand what gives any of you haters the right to tell the Navy we are delusional. I could say the same about y'all mother*****as and who you stan for. Like y'all kill me talking about "we're just spilling the truth" no you're just stating your IGNORANT MISINFORMED OPINION like most people on this board. You think cause you stan for a certain person that makes you qualified to make assesments about musicians when your taste dosent go past "7/11". goodbye
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Member Since: 4/15/2012
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Originally posted by moijejoue
Because she already exists smart one, so there isn't a need to market another one. The music market is competitive and that last thing an artist needs is to be compared to someone else. My point is, if it wasn't Rihanna, then it would have been someone else.
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you are wrong.
people only wanna discredit rihanna cause shes not powerhouse, doesnt dance and would not be visually interestin if there was no makeup artist and stylist around her.
she has a cute tone and stop trippin how thats not a talent. theres more to talent than just 3-5 octaves.
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Member Since: 1/6/2014
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Originally posted by lonnie
It's always something, "she doesn't write her music", "she's a one hit wonder", "she's only a pretty face".
She won't ever please everyone and she doesn't strive to do that, she releases great music, has great personality, a stellar tone and is a good singer of course not everyone is going to like her or her music but it's just a ****ing excuse. Frank Sinatra, Whitney, Elvis and a list of other great musicians didn't write their music and that "they were great vocalists" excuse is ********, they didn't write their music and that's the subject in question everything else is irrelevant.
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But it's true. The fact that she has a "great personality" (opinions may differ) doesn't negate the fact that she had little to no involvement in her music at all. At least the other stars mentioned above had something else artistically to bring to the table even if it wasn't don't writing. What has Rihanna bring? And as a matter of fact, if the damn Navy haven't over hyped her as they did, people probably wouldn't be making a big deal about this.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Member Since: 4/15/2012
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Originally posted by moijejoue
What has Rihanna bring? .
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i told u n gave u arguments n u jus ignorin,
keep fumin cuz u aint gonna c far
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Member Since: 1/6/2014
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Originally posted by sweetkiss
you are wrong.
people only wanna discredit rihanna cause shes not powerhouse, doesnt dance and would not be visually interestin if there was no makeup artist and stylist around her.
she has a cute tone and stop trippin how thats not a talent. theres more to talent than just 3-5 octaves.
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Nope. I don't think people care of she's a powerhouse. I mean Beyonce has a powerhouse voice but some people find it annoying. And I think more than "cute tone" is needed to have actually talent.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by lonnie
Rihanna has writing credits on 5 out of the 7 albums she has
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One of those albums happens to be her most popular one. And the other one of her most successful in terms of singles.
So saying that doesn't really prove anything because GGGB and Loud have some of her biggest songs on them, and she didn't write a single word.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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I don't care that she doesn't write or sing. I think the problem for most people is that she has invisible talents. We can't identify them. Being pretty isn't a talent. And neither is picking out songs. Being a "bad girl with no ****s to give" isn't a talent either. Just my take on it.
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Originally posted by RomanNavy
Whitney Houston or Elvis Presley never wrote a single song yet they're legends.
It's just some petty gays who feel the need to drag her for that cuz they don't have anything else.
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Whitney was also the greatest singer alive. And Elvis was a musician, great performer and great singer. They both stood out. Rihanna does not excel in anything in terms of raw talent. In fact, shd receives more praise from her fashion than her actual talent. And given she's supposed to be a singer that isn't something to be proud of.
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Member Since: 1/6/2014
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Originally posted by ImsoLOUD
I don't understand what gives any of you haters the right to tell the Navy we are delusional. I could say the same about y'all mother*****as and who you stan for. Like y'all kill me talking about "we're just spilling the truth" no you're just stating your IGNORANT MISINFORMED OPINION like most people on this board. You think cause you stan for a certain person that makes you qualified to make assesments about musicians when your taste dosent go past "7/11". goodbye
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Well thats funny cuz I don't Stan for anyone, not even Beyonce herself. And my statement is not ignorant or misinformed, it's common sense.
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Originally posted by moijejoue
But it's true. The fact that she has a "great personality" (opinions may differ) doesn't negate the fact that she had little to no involvement in her music at all. At least the other stars mentioned above had something else artistically to bring to the table even if it wasn't don't writing. What has Rihanna bring? And as a matter of fact, if the damn Navy haven't over hyped her as they did, people probably wouldn't be making a big deal about this.
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Where has the Navy overhyped her? This thread wasn't even made by a Navy member even.
And Rihanna does have a say in her music and her albums, of course some ignorant people would think all she does is take whatever's handed to her but they can live, bathe and roll in the mud that is their ignorance. Rihanna has consistently been the executive producer in all her albums since 2010 and determines the musical and creative direction of her albums and eras but since y'all just assume since she doesn't write her album she doesn't do ****, and you can stay ignorant the more general public is obviously here for the music she releases. All you're looking for is an excuse period.
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Originally posted by Zack
One of those albums happens to be her most popular one. And the other one of her most successful in terms of singles.
So saying that doesn't really prove anything because GGGB and Loud have some of her biggest songs on them, and she didn't write a single word.
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And what popular song does Paris have?
Rihanna has credits on Rude Boy, a number one song that stayed on top of the charts for over 4 weeks, happy?
So what if she doesn't have credits on LOUD and GGGB?
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Member Since: 11/18/2008
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Why do everytime I see people shading Queen RiRi is people with Bey avies?
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Member Since: 3/14/2013
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Originally posted by Vespertine
Rihanna has improved a lot over the years, but the reason I could never stan for her is that I just don't know what she brings to the table beyond being a gorgeous vehicle for solid pop songs with an average voice. Honestly. And that doesn't just apply to Rih, so don't think I'm hating.
Many of the most respected acts of all time didn't write their own material, but they ****ing sang the hell out of those songs. There are, for example, many singers who mostly built careers on jazz standards... deservedly so. Ella Fitzgerald's interpretations of the Great American Songbook >>>>>>> Rihanna (or Britney, etc.) laying average vocals over someone else's song.
Then you also have it the other way. There are many legendary musicians who might've been weaker vocalists, but brought raw musicianship, songwriting to the table. Bob Dylan could never sing worth a damn, but he wrote timeless songs.
Then of course there are the extraordinary few who bring everything to the table.
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This pretty much says everything, I can't stan for her because I don't thing she does really excel in anything, she has an amazing team but seeing her on stage is unimpressive to me
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Member Since: 11/23/2011
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She's not nearly criticized enough, but then again, when you can offer that IT factor that no one else can offer, lots of things are just brushed under the carpet.
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Member Since: 5/3/2010
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Originally posted by moijejoue
But it's true. The fact that she has a "great personality" (opinions may differ) doesn't negate the fact that she had little to no involvement in her music at all. At least the other stars mentioned above had something else artistically to bring to the table even if it wasn't don't writing. What has Rihanna bring? And as a matter of fact, if the damn Navy haven't over hyped her as they did, people probably wouldn't be making a big deal about this.
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The Navy didn't make her one of the biggest popstars in the world, the people did. No one is overhyping her, the hype is real and she really is one of the biggest popstars to do it. You can't really deny it. Rihanna will go down in history. You sound mad or something idk
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Member Since: 3/3/2014
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Originally posted by lonnie
Rihanna has writing credits on 5 out of the 7 albums she has
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Member Since: 3/3/2014
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Originally posted by Rigalo
The Navy didn't make her one of the biggest popstars in the world, the people did. No one is overhyping her, the hype is real and she really is one of the biggest popstars to do it. You can't really deny it. Rihanna will go down in history. You sound mad or something idk
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lmaooo
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Member Since: 3/3/2014
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Originally posted by AHemsworth
I don't care that she doesn't write or sing. I think the problem for most people is that she has invisible talents. We can't identify them. Being pretty isn't a talent. And neither is picking out songs. Being a "bad girl with no ****s to give" isn't a talent either. Just my take on it.
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SIS!!!!!!
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Member Since: 1/6/2014
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Originally posted by lonnie
Where has the Navy overhyped her? This thread wasn't even made by a Navy member even.
And Rihanna does have a say in her music and her albums, of course some ignorant people would think all she does is take whatever's handed to her but they can live, bathe and roll in the mud that is their ignorance. Rihanna has consistently been the executive producer in all her albums since 2010 and determines the musical and creative direction of her albums and eras but since y'all just assume since she doesn't write her album she doesn't do ****, and you can stay ignorant the more general public is obviously here for the music she releases. All you're looking for is an excuse period.
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Yes. Y'all do overhype her. Y'all can always fall back on her chart stats and longevity to prove that she's "the biggest star of her generation" or "The queen of pop", but when others question her raw talents y'all can only say that she has a "unique" voice or the GP loves her personality. And do you really think that Rihanna plays a huge part in musical or creative direction? If so, why isn't the majority of the GP or music critics praising her for it? You do know that some stars will pay for creative titles and writing credits do it s like they take part in the creative process?
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