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Discussion: Will women ever be equal as men?
Member Since: 5/4/2012
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Originally posted by accelgors
wow, seriously? are you kidding me? have you ever even talked to a woman or seen how they're treated
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I talk to several women daily actually thanks.
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even if you deny things like pay gaps,
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myth
myth.
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difficulty getting into STEM fields
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and even bigger myth
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and other things women go through, how exactly can you explain higher rates of rape and domestic violence,
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because only men can rape and beat their spouse, and that's the only two crimes in the world that affect women.
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media constantly focusing on women's weight and photoshopping pictures of them,
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Because nobody talks about Chris Christie and Rick Ross
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and people seriously saying women shouldn't be allowed to vote or hold elected office?
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But they do tho and thats what matters
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why haven't we had a female president? you are ridiculously ignorant, just bye
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Because one hasnt run successfully yet in the US. IIt has very little to do with gender.
We've had a female head of state here for like the last 5 years or so.
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Member Since: 8/6/2012
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No and tbh I think society is better off that way
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Javan
Really? Rape laws, custodial laws, child support laws, abortion laws, maternity leave rights, domestic violence rhetoric all unequally advantage women because of their physical differences. And all the social ramifications of these beliefs work almost like an equal and opposite force. Yin and Yang. And if you talk to women as you talk to your boys, you're simply not a gentlemen. No offense.
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lmao i know you're a troll but
rape laws - because men rape
custodial & child support laws - because there are more dead beat dads than moms
maternity leave rights - because a woman pushes a ****ing kid out of her vagina and it takes time for the body to heal after giving birth
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Member Since: 2/2/2014
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Using the ability to give birth as an excuse for inequality
If anything that makes a woman superior to a man because she's needed to keep society going and all we need is a man's sperm, his being isn't needed at all.
I don't think women will ever be equal to men, at least not for a very long time. What men don't seem to realize is all of society benefits when women are treated correctly. A child's intelligence capacity and health all depend on women before and after birth. An educated and healthy woman makes a better society, yet men continue to oppress everyone
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Member Since: 6/4/2010
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IDK
Maybe not entirely equal but for the most part in western society things have gotten better. What I find odd is how some women complain about the silliest things like having to shave their legs or wearing makeup as if you're forced to. Complain about something worth complaining about and that's really holding you back in society.
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Member Since: 5/4/2012
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Originally posted by Sasha Pieterse
men are blamed for rape because a majority (and i'm not even talking 51% here, we're talking upwards of 90%) of rapes are committed by men
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Well in that case since 90% of the world is straight, **** gay rights, right? And that number is skewed as hell.
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men work the most hazardous and life threatening jobs because men have always been allowed to work
anything else?
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Yes how dare we keep women at home to take care of the children, they must have the equal right to go get black lung mining coal, or get shot up in a war
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Member Since: 11/28/2011
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Originally posted by Sasha Pieterse
lmao i know you're a troll but
rape laws - because men rape
custodial & child support laws - because there are more dead beat dads than moms
maternity leave rights - because a woman pushes a ****ing kid out of her vagina and it takes time for the body to heal after giving birth
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Exactly. Thank you for reestablishing that we are unequal. Now stop complaining about social consequences and make me a sammich jk.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Big Smoke
Well in that case since 90% of the world is straight, **** gay rights, right? And that number is skewed as hell.
Yes how dare we keep women at home to take care of the children, they must have the equal right to go get black lung mining coal, or get shot up in a war
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uhm, 90% of rapes, not the entire population
pls learn how to read
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Originally posted by Big Smoke
Yes how dare we keep women at home to take care of the children, they must have the equal right to go get black lung mining coal, or get shot up in a war
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If a woman is okay putting herself on the front lines to defend her country, or to work a hazardous job to support her family, I don't see why she shouldn't be allowed the same as a man.
A 1950s tea, please visit your local library and pick up a textbook. The same "we have to protect the minorities" defense was used in the segregation and Jim Crow eras.
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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Originally posted by Big Smoke
I talk to several women daily actually thanks.
myth
myth.
and even bigger myth
, because only men can rape and beat their spouse, and that's the only two crimes in the world that affect women.
Because nobody talks about Chris Christie and Rick Ross
But they do tho and thats what matters
Because one hasnt run successfully yet in the US. IIt has very little to do with gender.
We've had a female head of state here for like the last 5 years or so.
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did you seriously just call body shaming a myth??? you definitely haven't ever talked to a woman and if you doubt the difficulty women face being taken seriously in STEM type jobs and leadership positions despite MANY, MANY women reporting such things you definitely don't have any idea how women's lives are. like...
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Maybe in hundreds of years, but I don't see any disadvantaged groups becoming fully equal anytime soon.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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we'll come closer and closer but it will NEVER be as exactly equal
society will always think of males as "stronger"
it should be #heforshe honestly
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Member Since: 5/4/2012
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Originally posted by Sasha Pieterse
uhm, 90% of rapes, not the entire population
pls learn how to read
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No YOU learn to read, your point is because it happens in the minority, its okay to dismiss it and hell you even skated over my initial point:
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While on the flip side, men are blamed for rape before there is even any proof, and if there isnt any proof there's no retribution,
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Nothing you said even addressed that.
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Member Since: 11/28/2011
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Sasha Pieterse failing to see her hypocrisy. She is justifies laws and attitudes that favor women because of biological and behavioral differences. But when the tables are turned she wants equality. Typical.
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Member Since: 10/13/2010
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Originally posted by Big Smoke
Well in that case since 90% of the world is straight, **** gay rights, right? And that number is skewed as hell.
Yes how dare we keep women at home to take care of the children, they must have the equal right to go get black lung mining coal, or get shot up in a war
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Good point! There are a lot of women who want the equality, but don't want the hard jobs like coal miner, trucker, digging for oil, construction. Two wrongs don't make a right. Many women still prefer to just birth children and stay home and be pampered.
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While on the flip side, men are blamed for rape before there is even any proof, and if there isnt any proof there's no retribution,
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Also a good point. There are a lot of women who lie about abuse too, and the men suffer hard for it. A shame considering how many real victims are out there.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Big Smoke
No YOU learn to read, your point is because it happens in the minority, its okay to dismiss it and hell you even skated over my initial point:
Nothing you said even addressed that.
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did i say it's okay to dismiss it?
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Member Since: 2/2/2014
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when they have to sighn up for selective services
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Member Since: 5/4/2012
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Originally posted by accelgors
did you seriously just call body shaming a myth???
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... Yeah I just did.
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you definitely haven't ever talked to a woman and if you doubt the difficulty women face being taken seriously in STEM type jobs and leadership positions despite MANY, MANY women reporting such things you definitely don't have any idea how women's lives are. like...
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Raise your hand if your work in a STEM field;
I talk with women in IT every day who are in different sectors (financial, environment etc.) And I chat with them whenever I get a chance, and even though there is the occasional co worker tryna holla at em, most of the opposition they face, guess what, it's from OTHER WOMEN. This belief that women are somehow being cockblocked from excelling in STEM is dumb. Hell, the first real computer was created by a woman
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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Originally posted by Big Smoke
... Yeah I just did.
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yeah no. this is why i think you know nothing about women's lives. body shaming and terrible stigma towards women that don't look a certain way by prominent media is definitely a very real problem. come back to me when anorexia levels aren't as high as they are now. bye
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Member Since: 5/4/2012
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Originally posted by Sasha Pieterse
did i say it's okay to dismiss it?
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You just did!
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