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Poll: Is Beyoncé a Legend?
View Poll Results: Is Beyoncé a Legend?
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Hell yes!! She is the Queen
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51.43% |
No, but she's close. She's an Icon
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29.39% |
Of course not, Beyoncé whew?
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Member Since: 4/9/2011
Posts: 5,143
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Originally posted by Zavasta
One of the most sane members I have seen here.
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sane? yeah ok
anyways, she's on her way to becoming one. she has more of a chance than any one else right now
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Member Since: 11/27/2011
Posts: 1,022
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Originally posted by NX127
Is she a legend?
No. I saw her as a legend back when I was a hardcore fan of her, but now I know the truth.
What do I label her as?
A singer / "pop girl" ... About as average as any other "pop girls" making mainstream music.
Critics and fans love to shove her down our throats like her, her music and her talent are out of this world, but thank God I'm not blind.
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So what stopped you from being a hardcore fan? I'm curious as to what changed your mind about you seeing her as a legend
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
Posts: 5,156
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Who else has been slaying for so long? She has never had a HUGE era flop, she has never disgraced herself, she never lost her respected status. NEVER.
You're going to call popstars who had a huge peak legends because they were remembered for having breakdowns, relationship issues but someone who's been slaying for 17+ years is not a legend. Please.
Half of those "legends" that you stan for are now flops and you have to cling onto past receipts.
Name one person that can TO THIS DAY :
Sing as good as B
Dance as good as B
Tour as good as B
Sell albums as good as B
Sell singles as good as B
And preferably someone who doesn't build their career upon scandal and controversy rather on sheer talent.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 1,859
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Originally posted by toxicheartache
What many Beyoncé fans continue to misconstrue is that sales and popularity =/= legendary saris/iconography. Is Beyoncé a legend? No, not yet. She has yet to make her definitive stamp on the music industry and/or pop culture that other legends have.
P!nk is very similar to Beyoncé; she has many hit songs, her albums sell extremely well, she's a great performer, and she has a great voice. But would you consider her a legend? No, you wouldn't. (Unless you're an idiot.) Beyoncé is on a similar level to her.
Is she? No. Will she be? Possibly.
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So you're saying that Beyoncé is not more or less than P!nk? Even is "legend status" or GP appreciation?
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Member Since: 3/2/2014
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Member Since: 5/2/2012
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It feels odd to label her as such given her age and the fact that she's still very active and adding to her legacy, but she's got enough behind her to support her having the title. I understand why people feel as if she already is given everything that she's accomplished, I also understand the "not yet" perspective seeing that she's only 32 and is still hitting milestones. Here's a recent post I'd made about Beyonce's career milestones and accomplishments aside from sales/chart success:
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Originally posted by Ascension
Aside from sales and charts the only tangible measure of success aside from sales/charts would be recognition, IMO -- acclaim/awards. Looking at other things such as musical innovation, impact and influence and cultural impact, the legends of course have that on lock -- Madonna, Whitney, Janet, Mariah.
Out of the current pop girls, it's Bey by a long shot.
17 Grammys, 24 Billboard Awards, 10 AMAs, 14 VMAs and special career achievements and legacy honors including AMA International Artist Award, Billboard Artist of the Millennium, female Artist of the 2000s Decade and Hot 100 Artist of the Decade, WMA Legend Award.
As far as impact/legacy and influence:
Bey also has one of the most acclaimed pop songs of all time, Crazy in Love which is one of Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Songs of All Time. She also has her self titled album which is one of the highest reviewed albums of any mainstream pop girl, ever.
- Rolling Stone on Beyoncé's unique vocal style starting with Destiny's Child and its impact on R&B vocals:
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The definitive kiss-off song won two Grammys and featured a standout performance by Beyoncé, whose skittering, rhythmic, and hip-hop-derived approach to melody would help shift the entire landscape of R&B singing.
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- Complex Music on the Beyoncé effect on R&B vocals:
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By 2004, established female R&B artists were suffering... There was a shift. Female R&B artists were expected to be voracious vocalists with ranges that would give those listening goose bumps. That shift was Beyoncé. No matter the differentiations and nuances among the pool of singers, after her 2003 solo debut, the paradigm shifted. ... The angelic vocal thinness that was predominant in contemporary R&B for the decade before had waned.
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Add in her commercial and chart success, it's really difficult to dispute. I think her career accomplishments thus far pretty much have that sewn up. Seventeen years of musical relevance, leader of one of the most successful girl groups of all time and then a massively successful solo career with her becoming the most successful female Billboard artist of the 00's decade in addition to bringing about a major shift in the sound of R&B much like Janet and Mariah before her. She's been a fixture in pop culture for well over a decade at this point and has found ways to consistently outdo herself in one way or another. It's pretty much a done deal either way you slice it.
So based on that, for me it's a yes even if the labeling does feel premature given her age and relatively young career in comparison to the people that are thought of as legends. She can quit after this era and never do another thing; her legacy at this point is sealed. Any additional accomplishments are superfluous.
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Nope. She will probably become one though.
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Member Since: 1/6/2012
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She is. Britney and Beyoncé are the only legends who debuted in late 90s.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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because y'all do the same thread every week won't make her a legend or closer to one. to answer your question and the rest of the behive for 3456789034567890 time no she is not a legend, cause has no memorable hit and culture impact. most people will forget her in time.
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Member Since: 4/21/2012
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Yesss, Beyoncé is a legend and icon.
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Member Since: 11/9/2011
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Only on ATRL
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Member Since: 2/27/2012
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I'm not even a bey stan and even I can admit that she already is a legend and an icon. Do I care for her? Not really. Can't deny her impact/legacy though. Her longevity alone is extremely impressive. Smashing so hard in her like 16th year of being in the music industry. She also has the talent/acclaim and sales to back her up.
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Member Since: 5/28/2012
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Well, the Hive at least always used to say Bey's next era (during the 4 era) would define her legendary status, and then December 13th, 2013 happened and in my opinion since this is a discussion, she sealed her legendary status.
Not to mention the Mrs. Carter Show (2014 version for me) is an absolute phenomenon and without a doubt the most powerful, incredible showcase of her legacy, power and talent. And of course the numbers don't lie either
(and of course her continued non-stop relevancy, Destiny's Child, iconic songs and videos etc.)
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Member Since: 3/1/2014
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Originally posted by MrDeeds
Only in her house
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Nnnnn
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by QueenBeé
She is. Britney and Beyoncé are the only legends who debuted in late 90s.
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MTE. There's literally no denying it at this point. Even the "no definitive hit" bit is BS because everyone knows at least Single Ladies and Crazy In Love. Literally everyone.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 9,488
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I don't know if she's a legend yet, but she will be. Beyoncé and Adele are the closest things we have to legends in music today. Both of them are incredible vocalists and they have worldwide critical acclaim, and they have the support of the general public. Beyoncé can do no wrong in the public eye, and the same with Adele. They will always be relevant and they are the only two with "Legend" titles already under their belt.
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Member Since: 1/3/2014
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People are quick to call Xtina a legend because of ha voice alone, but people still want to act like Bey needs "more time"
She went from being the lead singer of one of the best selling female groups to debuting as a solo artist, spending 17 weeks at #1 with 2 songs in 2003. 10 years later she changes the game and sells more albums than all your faves in 2013. She's a 17 time Grammy award winning legend coming for her 18th, maybe 19th, maybe 20th Grammy next year. There's more to add on to this of course, but to all yall drowing in da nile, well, poor dat.
Also, just wait for the final Mrs Carter Show receipts.
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