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Poll: Is it ever acceptable for a man to hit a woman?
View Poll Results: Is it ever acceptable for a man to hit a woman?
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Yes
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No
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Member Since: 1/18/2012
Posts: 14,652
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Originally posted by RihannasVeryOwn
If they see it as a threat to their masculinity, that's not women's fault
If someone hits them they should report it
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And i just showed you that reporting doesn't always work, go back to page 2.
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Member Since: 3/14/2013
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Originally posted by fabbriche
Not only women are weaker than men, they are also generally less agressive and less likely to start or engage in a physical confrontation so it never really is acceptable for men to hit women unless of course in a case of self-defense.
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Black women disagree ![Bibliotheque](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/atrlers/biblio_zps23dff242.gif)
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
Posts: 5,156
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Originally posted by RihannasVeryOwn
Say a man cheats on a woman, and she slaps him. Is he allowed to lunge at her and beat her black and blue?
If a woman slaps a man because he was touching her inappropriately, is he allowed to punch her?
In both these situations, the violence is incited by the woman. Are the men allowed to beat women even if they were wrong?
As I said, I don't believe in violence. But making it socially acceptable for men to hit women would be wrong since men are biologically stronger and bigger than women.
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But why is the woman HITTING him in the first place, if a man is inappropriately touching her that's already considered as violence to some degree, but if a man cheats on her, she should just leave his ass and be done with him. No need to hit him. Same thing if she cheats on him, is he allowed to beat her? Of course not. Physical harm should only be allowed in self defense.
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 8/19/2013
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People are missing the point here.
There are many different women and many different men in this world. They all come in different shapes, sizes, strengths, weaknesses, and have different tolerances and capabilities to deal with frustration.
None of that matters.
The question was is it ever acceptable for a man to hit a woman.
The answer is yes.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
Posts: 5,156
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Originally posted by dannylex
That's wrong. Self Defense doesn't apply to a slap. Generally, a man can take a slap from a woman.
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So a woman can take a slap from a man, generally? Ok.
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Member Since: 8/22/2011
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Originally posted by RihannasVeryOwn
If the attacker is armed how is he going to hit them anyway, they could shoot him dead
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That's not the point though.
Let me quote you again:
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Originally posted by RihannasVeryOwn
No. Never ever ever in any circumstances ever.
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"Never ever ever in any circumstances"
Don't you realize what phrasing it like this implies? What you're technically saying is that a man has no right to hit a women EVER, under no circumstances. So you're saying if a man is being attacked by a female criminal or an enraged woman with some kind of weapon, say a knife or so- maybe it's domestic violence, it happens the other way around a lot as well in some households-, he still can't hit her in an attempt of self-defense, for no other reason than the fact it's a woman and not a man assaulting him.
Please tell me you see what's wrong with saying it like this: "never ever ever in any circumstances". It doesn't work like that in real life, a person will defend themselves when being attacked regardless of gender.
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Member Since: 8/4/2012
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by Sinvius
But why is the woman HITTING him in the first place, if a man is inappropriately touching her that's already considered as violence to some degree, but if a man cheats on her, she should just leave his ass and be done with him. No need to hit him. Same thing if she cheats on him, is he allowed to beat her? Of course not. Physical harm should only be allowed in self defense.
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People react differently in different situations. It doesn't make it right for a man to hit someone why is physically smaller and weaker than him.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 34,855
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Originally posted by Wafflinson
Gender is irrelevant. You shouldn't hit people (outside of self defense)
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Exactly what I came in here to say.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by Thaye
That's not the point though.
Let me quote you again:
"Never ever ever in any circumstances"
Don't you realize what phrasing it like this implies? What you're technically saying is that a man has no right to hit a women EVER, under no circumstances. So you're saying if a man is being attacked by a female criminal or an enraged woman with some kind of weapon, say a knife or so- maybe it's domestic violence, it happens the other way around a lot as well in some households-, he still can't hit her in an attempt of self-defense, for no other reason than the fact it's a woman and not a man assaulting him.
Please tell me you see what's wrong with saying it like this: "never ever ever in any circumstances". It doesn't work like that in real life, a person will defend themselves when being attacked regardless of gender.
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I'm just trying to say there are better ways of dealing with situations like those than violence. As another user said previously, men are more aggressive beings and they're more inclined to start physically fighting with people. If a woman is wielding a knife against him, he should try other alternatives than violence. Violence should always be a last resort.
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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The only times it is justifiable to get a hit are when
1.The person's (male or female) doing it for self-defense
2. It is a matter of life and death
3. You're a pop gurl and your song slays ![eli's_rhythm](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/atrlers/eli_zps0932edf9.gif)
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Quote:
Originally posted by RihannasVeryOwn
I'm just trying to say there are better ways of dealing with situations like those than violence. As another user said previously, men are more aggressive beings and they're more inclined to start physically fighting with people. If a woman is wielding a knife against him, he should try other alternatives than violence. Violence should always be a last resort.
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I thought that a man should never ever ever hit a woman though, but now you're saying it's acceptable as a last resort? ![Sistrens](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/random/mskt8j_zpsfb323382.gif)
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Quote:
Originally posted by RihannasVeryOwn
If they see it as a threat to their masculinity, that's not women's fault
If someone hits them they should report it
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That wasn't my point. My point was that these women clearly are getting away with assault because they know that they can do so without suffering the consequences! Even if they are taken to court (in rare cases), the courts usually let them off because they are women! This is such a familiar phenomenon that it has it's own term- chivalry effect.
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Member Since: 8/22/2011
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Quote:
Originally posted by RihannasVeryOwn
I'm just trying to say there are better ways of dealing with situations like those than violence. As another user said previously, men are more aggressive beings and they're more inclined to start physically fighting with people. If a woman is wielding a knife against him, he should try other alternatives than violence. Violence should always be a last resort.
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Everyone agrees on this already. What people had a problem with in your original comment is that what you're saying with the way you said it is that even in this last resort kind of scenario, a man shouldn't hit a woman. "Never ever ever in any circumstance" includes every possible situation, including violence as a last resort of self-defense. And clearly resorting to something such as hitting somebody in a situation when you're being violently assaulted is understandable and justifiable when you had no other way to protect yourself but to fight back.
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Member Since: 1/18/2012
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Quote:
Originally posted by RihannasVeryOwn
People react differently in different situations. It doesn't make it right for a man to hit someone why is physically smaller and weaker than him.
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And you say we're the ones making excuses for domestic violence? So basically women are allowed to express their emotions and lash out but men just have to deal with it and get over it? Child your white knight talk disgusts me.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by ForeverNow90
Black women disagree ![Bibliotheque](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/atrlers/biblio_zps23dff242.gif)
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What the hell??
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Originally posted by Thaye
Everyone agrees on this already. What people had a problem with in your original comment is that what you're saying with the way you said it is that even in this last resort kind of scenario, a man shouldn't hit a woman. "Never ever ever in any circumstance" includes every possible situation, including violence as a last resort of self-defense. And clearly resorting to something such as hitting somebody in a situation when you're being violently assaulted is understandable and justifiable when you had no other way to protect yourself but to fight back.
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A slap or a punch from a woman is hardly going to put a man in a coma. Self defense for petty things like that should be avoided. And the circumstance that a man really needs to hit a woman don't come by that often
Anyway, I do admit that the 'never ever under any circumstances' comment might've been seen as problematic since they do exist, however rare it may be.
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Member Since: 8/22/2011
Posts: 5,963
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Originally posted by RihannasVeryOwn
Anyway, I do admit that the 'never ever under any circumstances' comment might've been seen as problematic since they do exist, however rare it may be.
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I'm glad you finally admit this. There are instances where it's acceptable and understandable for a man to hit a woman, just as there are instances where a woman will defend herself against a man.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Quote:
Originally posted by RihannasVeryOwn
If the attacker is armed how is he going to hit them anyway, they could shoot him dead
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So if a woman comes into your house with a baseball bat in the middle of the night, you're supposed to let her beat you to death if you're a man? ![confused](http://www.atrl.net/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/confused.gif)
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Quote:
Originally posted by RihannasVeryOwn
People react differently in different situations. It doesn't make it right for a man to hit someone why is physically smaller and weaker than him.
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Not all women are weaker than men.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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The circumstances under which it would be acceptable for a man to hit a woman are so limited that I'll just go with an answer of 'No'.
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