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Discussion: Why is Janet Jackson so underrated ?
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Originally posted by chanel
I love Janet but she was never more popular worldwide than MJ
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Who was?
Her brother is the f***ing KING of Pop, one of the most (if not the most) recognizable pop icons, who ever walked on this planet. Anyone compared to him would fail. People go hard on Jan since she’s his sister, search for similarities in music and take him as a winner. But the truth is she inspired him many times you can include the black panther from B&W video.
I love them both to death but comparing their albums, JJ is the winner in versality, and subject matter, she was the braver one imo, and ironically when MJ was taking over the world she was paying him dust in the US in most cases.
Janet’s popularity was always on similar lever in my country. As far as I remember Feedback and Make Me were all over the radio. Her popularity srated during Janet era here. She’s very alike with MJ the rumors that Janet was dressed up MJ came up for a reason. She’s one of very few people in this industry who don’t need to prove anything. Her albums speak for themselves, and if someone likes it or not there are part of the history of popular music.
Some people can too lazy to do some research, others choose to be ignorants, it’s up to them, really. But it doesn’t change the fact that Miss Jackson made a name for herself in this long time ago. She become an inspiration and influence of the most popular famale singers. She did it on her OWN.
If someone believes that she’s just MJ’S little sister……………
… I don’t really care.
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Originally posted by Imogene
Who was?
Her brother is the f***ing KING of Pop, one of the most (if not the most) recognizable pop icons, who ever walked on this planet. Anyone compared to him would fail. People go hard on Jan since she’s his sister, search for similarities in music and take him as a winner. But the truth is she inspired him many times you can include the black panther from B&W video.
I love them both to death but comparing their albums, JJ is the winner in versality, and subject matter, she was the braver one imo, and ironically when MJ was taking over the world she was paying him dust in the US in most cases.
Janet’s popularity was always on similar lever in my country. As far as I remember Feedback and Make Me were all over the radio. Her popularity srated during Janet era here. She’s very alike with MJ the rumors that Janet was dressed up MJ came up for a reason. She’s one of very few people in this industry who don’t need to prove anything. Her albums speak for themselves, and if someone likes it or not there are part of the history of popular music.
Some people can too lazy to do some research, others choose to be ignorants, it’s up to them, really. But it doesn’t change the fact that Miss Jackson made a name for herself in this long time ago. She become an inspiration and influence of the most popular famale singers. She did it on her OWN.
If someone believes that she’s just MJ’S little sister……………
… I don’t really care.
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Don't agree with the bold. MJ was just as versatile. Actually he is the perfect example of a versatile pop star and Janet obviously followed in his footsteps. He himself produced everything from Operatic Pop to Heavy Metal. I definitely wouldn't call anyone in pop music "braver" than MJ. Janet would have never released They Don't Care About Us.
Agree with everything else though.
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Only now, but overall Janet is a legend, and shes loved by everyone.
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She's not underrated, she is just irrelevant on the current music scene and has been for nearly a decade.
But the difference between her and her brother, as he too, was "irrelevant" music wise the last decade or so of his life, was that he had such an impact on the industry and influence on the artists that came after him, that even though he wasn't doing anything, he was always a presence.
Janet has been praised, awarded, and given her props...she just hasn't done anything noteworthy to get that now. She failed to do what Madonna has done, and that is endure.
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I think because of the Superbowl incident, after that everything went downhill and I honestly don't see her career going anywhere
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Originally posted by BLaCKPoWeR
Janet is probably one of the most important female Pop stars ever. She spawned a generation of female stars. She is probably the second Black female to both dance AND sing after Tina Turner. It's pretty bothersome tbh.
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Yep.
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Because she hasn't been successful recently.
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Originally posted by Travis Bickle
Because it's a copy of his brother.
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I bet you never listen to one of her album
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Originally posted by poker_token
i love her she one of the best artists ever... but growing up here in the uk she was never really talked about alot or seemed like a big star if it wasnt for the fact my mum, cousins,aunties etc listened to her i would of not known most of her songs
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Originally posted by tcweh
And how did your mum and family get about to listening to her?
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Same. Mostly because my parents are black. How I heard Luther, Whitney, MJ, Bob Marley, Stevie W, Marvin Gaye, Missy Elliott. They stanned for them all.
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But didn't Paula teach Janet tho
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Originally posted by Javan
But didn't Paula teach Janet tho
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Paula just choreographed for the Control era.
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Originally posted by Javan
But didn't Paula teach Janet tho
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Kii.
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Originally posted by Imogene
Who was?
Her brother is the f***ing KING of Pop, one of the most (if not the most) recognizable pop icons, who ever walked on this planet. Anyone compared to him would fail. People go hard on Jan since she’s his sister, search for similarities in music and take him as a winner. But the truth is she inspired him many times you can include the black panther from B&W video.
I love them both to death but comparing their albums, JJ is the winner in versality, and subject matter, she was the braver one imo, and ironically when MJ was taking over the world she was paying him dust in the US in most cases.
Janet’s popularity was always on similar lever in my country. As far as I remember Feedback and Make Me were all over the radio. Her popularity srated during Janet era here. She’s very alike with MJ the rumors that Janet was dressed up MJ came up for a reason. She’s one of very few people in this industry who don’t need to prove anything. Her albums speak for themselves, and if someone likes it or not there are part of the history of popular music.
Some people can too lazy to do some research, others choose to be ignorants, it’s up to them, really. But it doesn’t change the fact that Miss Jackson made a name for herself in this long time ago. She become an inspiration and influence of the most popular famale singers. She did it on her OWN.
If someone believes that she’s just MJ’S little sister……………
… I don’t really care.
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I was responding to other people in the thread who were saying she was more popular than him and Madonna at one point and that has NEVER been the case. She may have had a few hit singles when they didnt have one or hit a bad spot, but she was never on their level popularity wise.
You dont have to school me on anything. I have all of J's albums but the first two, Damita Jo and 20 YO. I actually play her music more on a daily basis than his.
What album has Janet payed MJ dust in the US in???
Janet. vs Dangerous
Janet. 6X Plat (RIAA) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janet_(...certifications
Dangerous 7X Plat (RIAA) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dangero...certifications
Velvet Rope vs HIStory
The Velvet Rope has sold 3,229,000 copies in the United States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Vel...certifications
History 7× Platinum[67] US (RIAA) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIStory...ions_and_sales
Multiply VR by two because HIStory is a double disk and the total is just about even
All For You vs Invincible
All For You 2x Plat(RIAA) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_for...certifications
Invincible 2x Plat(RIAA) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invinci...Certifications
So Im just trying to figure out where the dust settled???
I will say that despite album sales Janey had waaayyy more chart success than MJ did in the 90s. That I will agree with
Also no one said she was just his little sister. Janet had/has her place in music but there is no need to try to diss MJ to big her up either.
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Originally posted by Mr Telephone Man
She's not underrated, she is just irrelevant on the current music scene and has been for nearly a decade.
But the difference between her and her brother, as he too, was "irrelevant" music wise the last decade or so of his life, was that he had such an impact on the industry and influence on the artists that came after him, that even though he wasn't doing anything, he was always a presence.
Janet has been praised, awarded, and given her props...she just hasn't done anything noteworthy to get that now. She failed to do what Madonna has done, and that is endure.
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I kinda agree with most of this. For some reason even in MJs worst days, he always received respect for his work/talents. Its just that undeniable. He also never seemed to let himself slip under the radar like Janet has. Also to me it seem that Janet just stopped. Like she lost her drive.
Im not a big Madonna fan but I like the passion and fire that she still has in her. Its just not there for Janet and you can see it
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Originally posted by mermaid_ariel
Paula just choreographed for the Control era.
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N it was olny a few vids in that era also. Also go check out some of those tapes from The Jackson Variety Show. You will see lil Janet getting downnnnn lol
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Originally posted by Lately 1814
Because most of you only know Janet from Superbowl on, a time when she wasn't having the success she once had, and her presence greatly diminished. So there was really no need to pay much attention to her.
Unbeknown to many of you, there was a period of time when Janet was bigger than Michael and Madonna globally. She sold millions of albums, sold out arenas and stadiums around the globe, and had hits in all of the countries ppl claim she's not known in.
But at the end of the day, your fave looks up to her or is inspired by her.
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This!
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People can clown Janet all they want but Janet has influenced almost everyone's main fav on this site. Beyonce and Britney both took alot from Janet. J. Lo took from Janet, TLC took from Janet, Aaliyah took from Janet, Ciara took from Janet. Janet rocked the crazy tats/piercings, red hair, and S&M bondage look way before Rihanna did. She also did dance-pop music while actually dancing. Just sayin'. In addition, Rhythm Nation 1814 and The Velvet Rope's concepts & connection to social justice/LGBT rights is similar to the themes of Born this Way.
and yes, even though Michael and Madonna reign superior to her in her prime she had the both of them shook too. In fact in the 90s, she was more successful and popular than the both of them.
Janet just needs to make a bomb concept album once and for all. She has basically been recycling the janet. album over and over again since All for You. Her last great album was TVR
Janet is a visionary, and not just successful because of her last name.
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Janet isn't underrated. She had huge impact and success. 100 million sold is a huge accomplishment because many artist don't even make past 10 or 20 million, so kudos to her!
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Originally posted by Lately 1814
Because most of you only know Janet from Superbowl on, a time when she wasn't having the success she once had, and her presence greatly diminished. So there was really no need to pay much attention to her.
Unbeknown to many of you, there was a period of time when Janet was bigger than Michael and Madonna globally.
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Basically...
But yes, It is sad she is underrated today. She was a the blueprint and prototype...
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Originally posted by Ace Reject
Eli, I know I keep going back to this ...
... but why was she never big in the UK? When I grew up, Janet was HUGE. HUGE. So it was really surprising to me when I discovered that she's never had an album sell more than 600,000 - and she's never had a number one single there either. Almost EVERY female artist has had a solo number one in the UK.
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I read somewhere that politics were involved. IDK exactly what, but I know she still had some impact in the UK. She still sold out arenas and stadiums at her peak in the UK, so she still was known. I think it had to do with being related to "Wacko Jacko" since the UK had such a stigma to Michael? IDK...I just know there is some political reason as to why.
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Originally posted by FreeXone
I read somewhere that politics were involved. IDK exactly what, but I know she still had some impact in the UK. She still sold out arenas and stadiums at her peak in the UK, so she still was known. I think it had to do with being related to "Wacko Jacko" since the UK had such a stigma to Michael? IDK...I just know there is some political reason as to why.
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Or the UK just simply has bad taste (Jk xD), they prefer disco/pop fluff over urban/New jack swing music
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