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Chart Listings: Taylor Swift STORMS onto Country Songs chart with 3 songs
Member Since: 11/27/2011
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Originally posted by castle13
Uhm so you want to disregard sales just because a certain artist is dominant than the others in that category?
There's a reason why charts exist and it's an endless competition between songs and artists. You can't discontinue a chart just because one artist is slaying it and the others are not performing quite as well.
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Exactly, Taylor is the biggest cross-over act right now, this is normal.
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Member Since: 3/31/2012
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Originally posted by nky0411
i didnt say to discontinue the chart.
BB should put more weightage on radio (which we still dont know yet).. and WANEGBT is not pop, so is IKYWT. I dont know how red is considered country too.. they are just not country, even they are my faves
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RED has country vibes in it. I can distinctly hear the banjos on the background. It's definitely more country than "Reality".
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Member Since: 4/24/2011
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Originally posted by Bahjat
That was what I'm talking about, they did better than them in SALES and actually the Speak Now era was her BEST in Country Radio, all the singles went Top 3.
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that was fair because Sparks Fly, BTD, Ours etc was considered country songs. Her only pop did badly aka TSOU.
the next thing u know is that songs like both of us which has little country airplay will top the chart. Gosh.
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Member Since: 11/27/2011
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Originally posted by Mezik
Not nearly as pop as WANEBT.
Good Girl most likely wouldn't even be able to play on pop radio as it has too many country vibes in it. In Blown Away at least she sings it like a country song, unlike Taylor who doesn't even try to make it country sounding.
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That's because she has a Country TONE.
And it's not fair to judge a song by the singer's tone.
If Taylor sang Blown Away it would've sounded pure POP, Taylor doesn't have that tone, how would she make it Country sounding? can you please explain?
And it may be less Pop than WANEGBT but it's a mixture of other genres that DO NOT include Country.
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Member Since: 5/22/2011
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More people on country radio would rather listen to Miranda or Carrie or Luke. Do you people really think the huge country bases right now are requesting Taylor to be played? No they aren't, digital sales shouldn't count for nearly as much as they do right now.
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Member Since: 12/13/2011
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Originally posted by nky0411
that was fair because Sparks Fly, BTD, Ours etc was considered country songs. Her only pop did badly aka TSOU.
the next thing u know is that songs like both of us which has little country airplay will top the chart. Gosh.
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Well, it can't since the song's not hers.
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Member Since: 11/27/2011
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Originally posted by nky0411
that was fair because Sparks Fly, BTD, Ours etc was considered country songs. Her only pop did badly aka TSOU.
the next thing u know is that songs like both of us which has little country airplay will top the chart. Gosh.
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TSOU wasn't even sent to Country radio, and that's where Billboard should come.
They shouldn't count IKYWT as a Country song.
And I hope they won't.
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Member Since: 5/22/2011
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Originally posted by Bahjat
That's because she has a Country TONE.
And it's not fair to judge a song by the singer's tone.
If Taylor sang Blown Away it would've sounded pure POP, Taylor doesn't have that tone, how would she make it Country sounding? can you please explain?
And it may be less Pop than WANEGBT but it's a mixture of other genres that DO NOT include Country.
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Billboard should not count WANEGBT, IKYWT or her future singles that are pop on country charts then. She sings all her songs like they're pop songs, and she ain't going to change.
The chart is way too misleading now.
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Member Since: 8/26/2011
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So the billboard country chart is basically gonna be the billboard Taylor chart
Does this new rule apply to the pop chart? Would the sales from WANEGBT apply to her chart position on pop songs?
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Member Since: 4/2/2012
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Originally posted by Mezik
Billboard should not count WANEGBT, IKYWT or her future singles that are pop on country charts then. She sings all her songs like they're pop songs, and she ain't going to change.
The chart is way too misleading now.
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I agree, it makes no sense. I would not be surprised at all if Scott Borchetta or Big Machine pushed for this, since WANEGBT missed the top ten entirely.
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Member Since: 4/24/2011
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Originally posted by Bahjat
TSOU wasn't even sent to Country radio, and that's where Billboard should come.
They shouldn't count IKYWT as a Country song.
And I hope they won't.
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that's what i meant. If IKYWT tops country chart, say bye to Failboard.
Side note: and rihanna dominating r&b.. god bless billboard
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Member Since: 11/27/2011
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Originally posted by Mezik
More people on country radio would rather listen to Miranda or Carrie or Luke. Do you people really think the huge country bases right now are requesting Taylor to be played? No they aren't, digital sales shouldn't count for nearly as much as they do right now.
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You can't speak on behalf of millions.
Those facebook trolls do not represent every single person that listens to Country radio.
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Member Since: 11/27/2011
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Originally posted by TN05
I agree, it makes no sense. I would not be surprised at all if Scott Borchetta or Big Machine pushed for this, since WANEGBT missed the top ten entirely.
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Really now? Billboard is going to change the rules of every Radio chart because of Big Machine? I'm sorry but you're reaching.
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Member Since: 5/22/2011
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Originally posted by Bahjat
You can't speak on behalf of millions.
Those facebook trolls do not represent every single person that listens to Country radio.
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WANEGBT was a HUGE FLOP on country radio, It was never going to #1! Now songs that should be #1 on Hot Country Songs like Blown Away, How to Love & Kiss Tomorrow Goodbye won't reach the peak position.
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Member Since: 3/31/2012
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Originally posted by TN05
I agree, it makes no sense. I would not be surprised at all if Scott Borchetta or Big Machine pushed for this, since WANEGBT missed the top ten entirely.
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Stop. Billboard already hinted this a long time ago.
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Member Since: 11/27/2011
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Originally posted by Mezik
WANEGBT was a HUGE FLOP on country radio, It was never going to #1! Now songs that should be #1 on Hot Country Songs like Blown Away, How to Love & Kiss Tomorrow Goodbye won't reach the peak position.
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Did I quote you on a post that said WANEGBT? you clearly said people would rather listen to Luke, Miranda and Carrie than Taylor.
YES, Never Ever was a flop on Country radio but that does NOT mean they don't want to listen to her. Ours had great acclaim from it's listener on Country radio, they love Taylor.
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Member Since: 4/2/2012
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Originally posted by Bahjat
Really now? Billboard is going to change the rules of every Radio chart because of Big Machine? I'm sorry but you're reaching.
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I'm saying Big Machine would have pushed for it behind-the-scenes.
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Member Since: 11/27/2011
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Originally posted by TN05
I'm saying Big Machine would have pushed for it behind-the-scenes.
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Again, how the heck would they change so many rules that they had for YEARS for a label? and as Castle13 said, billboard hinted at this before.
Stop reaching, please.
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Member Since: 5/22/2011
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Originally posted by Bahjat
Did I quote you on a post that said WANEGBT? you clearly said people would rather listen to Luke, Miranda and Carrie than Taylor.
YES, Never Ever was a flop on Country radio but that does NOT mean they don't want to listen to her. Ours had great acclaim from it's listener on Country radio, they love Taylor.
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But how does a song that gets all its airplay outside country radio, and sell because it's a pop song deserve to be #1, when country listeners are listening to Luke, Carrie & Miranda? Who get 99% of their airplay from country?
You can't justify that WANEGBT deserves this #1 spot, it really doesn't and it's a huge kick into the face for the country artists who are being supported by the country audience.
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Member Since: 3/31/2012
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Originally posted by Mezik
More people on country radio would rather listen to Miranda or Carrie or Luke. Do you people really think the huge country bases right now are requesting Taylor to be played? No they aren't, digital sales shouldn't count for nearly as much as they do right now.
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Uhm country radios have been monopolized by the same artists for so long now. It's not as if the "true" country artists all found success with the old chart. Look at Kellie Pickler. She's a genuine country artist but how many top 10s did she get?? Dixie Chicks had a lot of great country songs but were they as successful as Carrie, and Jasons chartwise? No. Let's not act as if the old chart was not flawed.
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