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News: Man arrested for infecting teen with HIV
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Originally posted by justaflopstan94
On grindr/MH at 15?! I thought I would contract something from touching myself at 15
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Member Since: 9/23/2009
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Originally posted by justaflopstan94
On grindr/MH at 15?! I thought I would contract something from touching myself at 15
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The ignorance in this thread
This is so indicative of rape culture, you're blaming the victim of this crime because "oh he should've known better".
No. This guy gave him HIV, he didn't give it to himself. There is no one at fault except for this guy.
Goddamn ATRL
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Are you really going to compare rape to willingly having sex with a stranger?
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Originally posted by Dip Low
The ignorance in this thread
This is so indicative of rape culture, you're blaming the victim of this crime because "oh he should've known better".
No. This guy gave him HIV, he didn't give it to himself. There is no one at fault except for this guy.
Goddamn ATRL
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He went and met up with/****ed a 30 year old!!!!
and those eyebrows
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There's no ignorance going on in this thread. The man didn't force himself on this teen. This teen met up with the man and intended to have sex with him, so using the whole "blame the rape victim" talk is dumb.
At the end of the day, a 15-year old shouldn't be frequenting sex sites or hooking up with someone twice his age and should have knowledge and know better than to hook up with a stranger. You're not talking about an eight-year old here. If that's "ignorant," then oh well.
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Originally posted by Dip Low
The ignorance in this thread
This is so indicative of rape culture, you're blaming the victim of this crime because "oh he should've known better".
No. This guy gave him HIV, he didn't give it to himself. There is no one at fault except for this guy.
Goddamn ATRL
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Oh please. How is this indicative of rape culture? First of all, No one is saying that the 30 year old guy is NOT wrong for what he did. He's completely wrong and what he did was terrible. Secondly, and I'm sorry, but this is NOT rape. That 15 year old was SEARCHING to have sex with someone, he knew damn well what he was doing and he knew damn well what a risk it would be.
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
AND It was also this kid's responsibility not to hook up with a stranger he met off some gay site he shouldn't even frequenting and letting him run up in him raw. This boy wasn't messing with someone who he has dated for awhile and trusted and just contracted the virus. He was being careless. He's not totally innocent in this all. END OF.
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It doesn't matter if you knew him for 5 days or 6 months, if a guy is going around having sex with people w/o protection, spreading a life threatening virus, either way, it's still wrong. If he had knew him for six months and dated and **** does it make the situation any better/different? At the end of the day, regardless if it was 5 days or 6 months, if the guy was 17 years old or 30 (even though the statutory rape is still a bid deal here), even if the guy was sexy as hell or busted as ****, the person still didn't tell him he had HIV/AIDS and he still would have gotten the virus.
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Originally posted by seismicity
It doesn't matter if you knew him for 5 days or 6 months, if a guy is going around having sex with people w/o protection, spreading a life threatening virus, either way, it's still wrong. If he had knew him for six months and dated and **** does it make the situation any better/different? At the end of the day, regardless if it was 5 days or 6 months, if the guy was 17 years old or 30 (even though the statutory rape is still a bid deal here), even if the guy was sexy as hell or busted as ****, the person still didn't tell him he had HIV/AIDS and he still would have gotten the virus.
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You're telling me this as if I'm siding with that pervert and saying that it was totally the teen's fault. I'm saying that the teen isn't totally innocent in this, not that the 30-year old isn't at fault. He's a creep and deserves to be put behind bars, but I'm not going to pretend that this 15-year old is some innocent bystander. He was searching to get laid.
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And if you think about it, this guy was 15 when this kid was born. Wtf? That's why I could never date older.
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You're blaming the victim, something that has found itself deeply embedded within rape culture, thank you very much.
I mean if you want to act like this kid is to blame go ahead, but it's ignorant and nothing you argue will change that
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
You're telling me this as if I'm siding with that pervert and saying that it was totally the teen's fault. I'm saying that the teen isn't totally innocent in this, not that the 30-year old isn't at fault. He's a creep and deserves to be put behind bars, but I'm not going to pretend that this 15-year old is some innocent bystander. He was searching to get laid.
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Yeah he was asking for it!
Do you see what you're typing? I don't mean to call you out but it's really making me uncomfortable
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so vile...
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Originally posted by Dip Low
You're blaming the victim, something that has found itself deeply embedded within rape culture, thank you very much.
I mean if you want to act like this kid is to blame go ahead, but it's ignorant and nothing you argue will change that
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"Afterward, the minor mentioned his involvement to a friend, who had also been intimately involved with Sumlin and then contracted the AIDS-causing virus."
I feel like you're missing something here. Lol.
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What does the guy being twice his age have to do with anything? Y'all are being so dumb, I'm with Dip Low.
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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Originally posted by Dip Low
Yeah he was asking for it!
Do you see what you're typing? I don't mean to call you out but it's really making me uncomfortable
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I don't care what makes YOU uncomfortable. I don't live or breath by your approval.
If you don't understand the point I and others are making, then that's your issue to deal with. If I'm making you feel uncomfortable, then there are ways to deal with that.
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Originally posted by Dip Low
Yeah he was asking for it!
Do you see what you're typing? I don't mean to call you out but it's really making me uncomfortable
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You're taking that quote out of context.
The kid went and searched for some anonymous d***
There is a such a thing as partial blame it's not all on him but he could have avoided this.
@Jameson Teqkilla.
Being twice his age has everything to do with it as the adult he was suppose to act like one and be responsible.
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Originally posted by justaflopstan94
"Afterward, the minor mentioned his involvement to a friend, who had also been intimately involved with Sumlin and then contracted the AIDS-causing virus."
I feel like you're missing something here. Lol.
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I don't know what you're saying.
Are you implying that the kid knew this guy had HIV? I think the kid didn't find out until his friend told him...
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
I don't care what makes YOU uncomfortable. I don't live or breath by your approval.
If you don't understand the point I and others are making, then that's your issue to deal with. If I'm making you feel uncomfortable, then there are ways to deal with that.
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I understand the point, don't act like I'm missing some hidden truth.
The point that you and others are making is offensive, ignorant, and deeply disturbing. It's not some secret thing that I don't want to admit, it's just a really dumb argument
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Originally posted by I Am Music
You're taking that quote out of context.
The kid went and searched for some anonymous d***
There is a such a thing as partial blame it's not all on him but he could have avoided this.
@Jameson Teqkilla.
Being twice his age has everything to do with it as the adult he was suppose to act like one and be responsible.
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So you agree the full responsibility is on the 30 year old then for not telling his sexual partner he had HIV? You're contradicting yourself.
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