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Poll: Will you respect Gaga if she went back to "Old Gaga?"
View Poll Results: Will you lose respect for Gaga if she went back to Old Gaga?
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Yes, I would lose some respect for Gaga as an artist.
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No, I would still fully respect Gaga as an artist.
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Member Since: 3/7/2011
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Oh. I thought by Old Gaga you meant the Stefani days.
Anyway, she won't redo the Fame or TFM.
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Member Since: 3/25/2011
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Originally posted by Vin
"Born This Way" is a throwback to the 80's. And her next album may be a throwback
to the 70's? Are these her choices as an artist: to deliver throwback albums
or redo her album from 2009/2010? Doesn't sound promising.
...Vin
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But Born This Way, as a collective album only takes influences from the 80s. If you listened to the album in its entirely, you might notice the progressive elements within the production that actually creates something new. A cohesive package that is both retro and futuristic - both sonically and lyrically.
Despise criticism, it was the best thing she could have done to retain her dance roots, but seperate herself from the typical structure of modern pop.
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Member Since: 5/25/2010
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Originally posted by Eaten By Lions
I think it's normal for all mainstream artists to go in a different direction, and then go back to their roots when the results aren't quite as successful...
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Artists only "go back to their roots" when they've been in the industry for a long
while. Rihanna hasn't "gone back to her roots" yet and she's six albums in.
She keeps on pushing forward, which begs the question: Is Rihanna,
artistically, a better musical act than Lady Gaga?
...Vin
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Member Since: 6/10/2011
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By the way, it would be really sad if Gaga had to stick with albums like Born This Way. Pop musicians can't stop in time.
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Member Since: 3/18/2008
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Originally posted by Eaten By Lions
Despise criticism, it was the best thing she could have done to retain her dance roots, but seperate herself from the typical structure of modern pop.
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And she accomplished that?
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Member Since: 8/30/2011
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Either way, she has her talent. If you respect talented artists, of course you will respect her.
And if you would rather your pop stars put out music produced by hit factories and teams set on putting out disposable, in-the-moment songs, you will like Gaga when she returns to her 'roots'
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Member Since: 3/25/2011
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Quote:
Originally posted by Vin
Artists only "go back to their roots" when they've been in the industry for a long
while. Rihanna hasn't "gone back to her roots" yet and she's six albums in.
She keeps on pushing forward, which begs the question: Is Rihanna,
artistically, a better musical act than Lady Gaga?
...Vin
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Has Rihanna not gone back to her roots? Because with every new album of hers, I am finding more and more Caribbean infused pop songs. Once again, an example of an artist marrying their roots with newer, broader sounds.
Gaga will no doubt be experiemental, but I encouage her to do it in a way that will be commercially succesful based on what she has learned from the last era.
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Member Since: 11/10/2011
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Quote:
Originally posted by Eaten By Lions
But Born This Way, as a collective album only takes influences from the 80s. If you listened to the album in its entirely, you might notice the progressive elements within the production that actually creates something new. A cohesive package that is both retro and futuristic - both sonically and lyrically.
Despise criticism, it was the best thing she could have done to retain her dance roots, but seperate herself from the typical structure of modern pop.
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If Lady Gaga wants to seperate herself from the typical structure of modern pop, she shouldn't be doing dance music at all. That's what everybody else has been doing since 2006.
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Member Since: 3/25/2011
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Originally posted by Gui Blackout
And she accomplished that?
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Based on the success she received this era. I would say so. I also don't see other artists coming out with Marry the Nights, Heavy Metal Lovers, or Government Hookers. Whether you actually enjoy those songs are not is a personal issue.
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Member Since: 12/21/2010
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Originally posted by Gui Blackout
And she accomplished that?
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Absolutely.
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Member Since: 2/15/2012
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Quote:
Originally posted by Vin
Artists only "go back to their roots" when they've been in the industry for a long
while. Rihanna hasn't "gone back to her roots" yet and she's six albums in.
She keeps on pushing forward, which begs the question: Is Rihanna,
artistically, a better musical act than Lady Gaga?
...Vin
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Well, first off, Rihanna's "musical roots" weren't nearly as profitable. Her dancehall debut single Pon De Replay couldn't get around Mariah Carey for a number one.
Second of all, she doesn't write or produce her stuff so how does that make her have more artistic integrity than Gaga at all? (She has a few co-writer credits, yes, but even still)
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I doubt she will ever go back to "The Fame" Gaga; she will likely do more dark, edgy, but still commercially friendly The Fame Monster material...but I don't think Gaga will ever return to the semi-generic The Fame material. Sure, The Fame was sonically somewhat boundary-pushing but now those types of sounds are so commonplace in radio that I don't think she could do that. She's never been one to cash on "current" trends; she's much more likely to try to start new trends, which, succeed or fail, is always more respectable in my eyes.
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Originally posted by Eaten By Lions
Based on the success she received this era. I would say so. I also don't see other artists coming out with Marry the Nights, Heavy Metal Lovers, or Government Hookers. Whether you actually enjoy those songs are not is a personal issue.
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Originally posted by BoyOnBoy Wonder
Absolutely.
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Even if that's true, wouldn't BTW still be classified as a modern pop/dance album?
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Member Since: 12/21/2010
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Originally posted by Tsuko
If Lady Gaga wants to seperate herself from the typical structure of modern pop, she shouldn't be doing dance music at all. That's what everybody else has been doing since 2006.
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Where? Mars?
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Member Since: 2/18/2012
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Just because she's working with RedOne doesn't mean she's going back the way... He still did productions on BTW, which didn't sound like songs from TF/M...
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Member Since: 3/6/2011
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Quote:
Originally posted by Vin
Artists only "go back to their roots" when they've been in the industry for a long
while. Rihanna hasn't "gone back to her roots" yet and she's six albums in.
She keeps on pushing forward, which begs the question: Is Rihanna,
artistically, a better musical act than Lady Gaga?
...Vin
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Rihanna isn't really an artist and isn't really pushing forward. She is hardly a musical act; sure, she is commercially successful but she has camps of writers and producers churning out hits for her to loop her voice over.
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Member Since: 3/30/2011
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Born This Way isn't artistic progression at all, if anything this has been her sellout era since she obviously tried to carefully engineer this album to propel her into legend status and build on the success she had with TFM.
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Member Since: 12/21/2010
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Originally posted by Gui Blackout
Even if that's true, wouldn't BTW still be classified as a modern pop/dance album?
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Yes, but you could call Body Talk the same thing - that doesn't make it mainstream.
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Member Since: 8/23/2011
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The problem with this thread is that the original post and further conversation points are based on incredibly subjective or irrelevant information provided by the original poster.
To set the record straight:
- Lady Gaga has collaborated with RedOne on all three of her albums, so it isn't that surprising nor is it a reflection on the potential for her to "regress."
- The next album will not be reminiscent of The Fame, it *may* be reminiscent of The Fame Monster. This also has no real basis, and was said by an insider on Twitter.
- "Evolution" and "easily digestible" are not mutually exclusive. There's a logical fallacy with that point that insinuates in order to constantly evolve your music must become less and less digestible.
- I cannot think of an instance where a significant amount of fans have deemed The Fame Monster era as "not truly Gaga." That's an incredibly off observation.
- Asking if Rihanna is a better musical act because she hasn't gone back to her roots doesn't work against disproving Lady Gaga because she too has not gone back to her roots. Assuming something that hasn't even happened.
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Member Since: 3/25/2011
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Quote:
Originally posted by Gui Blackout
Even if that's true, wouldn't BTW still be classified as a modern pop/dance album?
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It would be yes. A progressive dance album with influences of rock and the 80s. The fact that it takes song structures rom a previous era, but transforms them is what makes the album unique.
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