I thought I posted on the first page, but apparently it didn't go through.
What I had said, like 30 min ago, was that she is way too gay. And that she's too old to break through now. Which is pretty much exactly what everybody else has said. But it's very true. Her musical persona (so basically, Kylie herself) is nothing like Gaga's brand of gay, which plays up the camp and the social agenda without the sex. And she's too sweet, soft and non-confrontational to tap into Britney-style female iconography. Kylie is here for unpretentious fun and glamor. It's hard to find a 2000s Kylie performance or video that doesn't include her being surrounded by half-naked hot men. When she performs, she doesn't really dance, but flow with her music--writhing slowly on the stage very suggestively, but not in a way that could capture American audiences. And her male dancers writhe along with her, sometimes in much less clothing. She's found her niche, and I just couldn't imagine her having a larger presence in the US. She's like a big Barbie doll for gays, but she happens to have some substance.
I mean, musically Kylie is doing the best out of all the girls of her time right now.
I found Aphrodite really disappointing, actually. I haven't listened to Light Years but I've heard everything else from the 2000s, and it's literally all a little dodgy. I don't know how Bart does it. At least Janet gave me what I needed between 1986 and 2004. She can **** out whatever she wants now.
Quote:
Originally posted by stereo.love
The US is a shithole.
Kinda ignorant? Not giving you a warning point, but watch yourself. It's sort of hard to generalize a country of over 300 million with several culturally significant large cities, a continuum of socio-economic classes and hundreds of ethnic backgrounds.
I thought I posted on the first page, but apparently it didn't go through.
What I had said, like 30 min ago, was that she is way too gay. And that she's too old to break through now. Which is pretty much exactly what everybody else has said. But it's very true. Her musical persona (so basically, Kylie herself) is nothing like Gaga's brand of gay, which plays up the camp and the social agenda without the sex. And she's too sweet, soft and non-confrontational to tap into Britney-style female iconography. Kylie is here for unpretentious fun and glamor. It's hard to find a 2000s Kylie performance or video that doesn't include her being surrounded by half-naked hot men. When she performs, she doesn't really dance, but flow with her music--writhing slowly on the stage very suggestively, but not in a way that could capture American audiences. And her male dancers writhe along with her, sometimes in much less clothing. She's found her niche, and I just couldn't imagine her having a larger presence in the US. She's like a big Barbie doll for gays, but she happens to have some substance.
This post is GOLD! I enjoyed reading your opinion on Queen Kylie and your points couldn't be more true!!!
That's the first lipsync performance I ever seen from Kylie.
I'm pretty sure the "Come Into My World" performance right above it is also very badly lipped. Glad she stopped with that mess. Only Janet can get away with lipping!
I thought I posted on the first page, but apparently it didn't go through.
What I had said, like 30 min ago, was that she is way too gay. And that she's too old to break through now. Which is pretty much exactly what everybody else has said. But it's very true. Her musical persona (so basically, Kylie herself) is nothing like Gaga's brand of gay, which plays up the camp and the social agenda without the sex. And she's too sweet, soft and non-confrontational to tap into Britney-style female iconography. Kylie is here for unpretentious fun and glamor. It's hard to find a 2000s Kylie performance or video that doesn't include her being surrounded by half-naked hot men. When she performs, she doesn't really dance, but flow with her music--writhing slowly on the stage very suggestively, but not in a way that could capture American audiences. And her male dancers writhe along with her, sometimes in much less clothing. She's found her niche, and I just couldn't imagine her having a larger presence in the US. She's like a big Barbie doll for gays, but she happens to have some substance.
I love what you wrote. I actually don't care about the U.S.. Really. She already had her peak moments there on Fever and Kylie eras. That's enough. Even her two (cheap) american tours all sold out in 2009 and 2011. She's good with it. Anything she does hit the whole Europe. She already made history there.
Not to mention All the Lovers made the billboard's bubbling under and Aphrodite had her best selling first week since Fever. It's kinda surprising, tbh.
I thought I posted on the first page, but apparently it didn't go through.
What I had said, like 30 min ago, was that she is way too gay. And that she's too old to break through now. Which is pretty much exactly what everybody else has said. But it's very true. Her musical persona (so basically, Kylie herself) is nothing like Gaga's brand of gay, which plays up the camp and the social agenda without the sex. And she's too sweet, soft and non-confrontational to tap into Britney-style female iconography. Kylie is here for unpretentious fun and glamor. It's hard to find a 2000s Kylie performance or video that doesn't include her being surrounded by half-naked hot men. When she performs, she doesn't really dance, but flow with her music--writhing slowly on the stage very suggestively, but not in a way that could capture American audiences. And her male dancers writhe along with her, sometimes in much less clothing. She's found her niche, and I just couldn't imagine her having a larger presence in the US. She's like a big Barbie doll for gays, but she happens to have some substance.
I don't get how Kylie is more gay than Madonna, Gaga or Britney. Like that argument is so far fetched and not even plausible.
Kylie should have capitalized on The Locomotion or when the Spice Girls came to visit or when CGYOMH was huge here. Those were her only opportunities to convert the US. International artists without huge backing and promotion only have a once in a lifetime chance at US success. If they blow it then that is on them. Craig David, Leona Lewis ETC have all found that out.
I don't get how Kylie is more gay than Madonna, Gaga or Britney. Like that argument is so far fetched and not even plausible.
Kylie should have capitalized on The Locomotion or when the Spice Girls came to visit or when CGYOMH was huge here. Those were her only opportunities to convert the US. International artists without huge backing and promotion only have a once in a lifetime chance at US success. If they blow it then that is on them. Craig David, Leona Lewis ETC have all found that out.
Well, there was another opportunity.
Around the time of KM94 and Confide in Me, she was courted by a major US label and its smaller dance-oriented subsidiary. She chose the smaller pet label; that label folded before the album ever came out.
Around the time of KM94 and Confide in Me, she was courted by a major US label and its smaller dance-oriented subsidiary. She chose the smaller pet label; that label folded before the album ever came out.
I found Aphrodite really disappointing, actually. I haven't listened to Light Years but I've heard everything else from the 2000s, and it's literally all a little dodgy. I don't know how Bart does it. At least Janet gave me what I needed between 1986 and 2004. She can **** out whatever she wants now.
Kinda ignorant? Not giving you a warning point, but watch yourself. It's sort of hard to generalize a country of over 300 million with several culturally significant large cities, a continuum of socio-economic classes and hundreds of ethnic backgrounds.
Kylie is entirely hit or miss. Some songs you'll really like, and the others are just .