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Discussion: Katy & cheap chart tactics: what happened years ago?!
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Member Since: 9/14/2010
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Originally posted by FreeBitch
She still desperate.
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Of course, it's tactical and clever, but it is ****ing vile. Why would anyone want to degrade themselves just to acclaim a #1 & break a record. Does she, or even the label, know how ****ing desperate they look?
No self-achievement whatsoever. Hits don't make legends. And Katy Perry with be just that, not a legend.
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Member Since: 6/17/2011
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Originally posted by Vertigo Stick
The difference is Gaga's remixes are not made to appeal to radios more than the original. So that whole point is invalid. Rihanna and Britney did not remix their singles consecutively. Well Rihanna just has features on her singles as it is anyhow, but either way...And Britney did it once too. So let's not act like both do it all the time, like Perry.
Yes, the label is doing their job and doing it well - but it doesn't stop it from looking desperate. It's like telling a sports player it's okay to take steroids because the competition is tough.
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Member Since: 9/21/2010
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Originally posted by i spit on haters
There were discounts along the way Deemy, let's not.
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I know sis. I know. Without the discount and tacky remix she stands at 9#1s. Im sure thats the amount Mariah would have had or close to it. Queen.
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Member Since: 9/7/2010
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This thread wasn't made for purpose to y'all stop calling her desperate nor about reasons/situations other acts had.They have been doing the same(even worse and even more frequent).I know many of you are blinded by hate and can't think rationally but there are no excuses.
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Member Since: 4/3/2011
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Originally posted by Ruben
the 99c discounted Born This Way was also a good tactic. They were obviously after Britney's record for best debut by a female artist.
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Receipts ?
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Member Since: 9/21/2010
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Originally posted by Sammi
This thread wasn't made for purpose to y'all stop calling her desperate nor about reasons/situations other acts had.They have been doing the same(even worse and even more frequent).I know many of you are blinded by hate and can't think rationally but there are no excuses.
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Why would you make this thread now when she hasn't even got this #1 yet. Its gonna be even worse if she fails for 3 weeks straight.
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Member Since: 9/18/2010
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Originally posted by J a y
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Of course, it's tactical and clever, but it is ****ing vile. Why would anyone want to degrade themselves just to acclaim a #1 & break a record. Does she, or even the label, know how ****ing desperate they look?
No self-achievement whatsoever. Hits don't make legends. And Katy Perry with be just that, not a legend.
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Member Since: 12/28/2010
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Originally posted by Vertigo Stick
Katy's the only one having it done to everything she releases. Will Gaga's next album be reduced to 25 cents? Will Rihanna remix and discount You Da One with Bruno Mars? And I'm still waiting for the Criminal remix.
And just because something is law doesn't mean it is always right
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To everything??
California Gurls, Teenage Dream, Firework, I Kissed a Girl... all reached #1 without using such tactics. Let's not act as if she can't reach #1 on her own. E.T. got a remix, but the remix was released as the official single. I'm sure if your favorites do the same thing you will not be saying that.
And because nobody think alike, I may think something is right and something is wrong, you might think the opposite, that is why we have laws. And because it's not a crime to make such remixes to achieve a better position, and you say it's not right, doesn't mean everyone will think that. I think is a fair, if she does it, why the others can't?
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Member Since: 9/23/2009
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Unlike Michael, whose name will be the only artist attached to his record.
Katy's ass has to cite Snoop Dogg, Missy Elliott, B.o.B and Kanye West for all helping push her through the finish line.
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Member Since: 12/28/2010
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Originally posted by Deemy
Only Girl $0.99 for a weekend. It's still a fair, competitive price.
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When the song was stuck at #2, and that little push help her get the #1
Same thing for S&M, when it was stucked at #2, the remix gave the extra push to get the #1. It's all fair!
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Member Since: 3/5/2011
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Two wrongs don't make a right.
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Member Since: 9/18/2010
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Originally posted by Sammi
This thread wasn't made for purpose to y'all stop calling her desperate nor about reasons/situations other acts had.They have been doing the same(even worse and even more frequent).I know many of you are blinded by hate and can't think rationally but there are no excuses.
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Looks like your plant backfired. But I think you know she's desperate yourself and just can't bring yourself to admit it. When you have to constantly post and try to go out of your way to prove that something isn't desperate or pathetic.... It kind of just proves it.
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Member Since: 12/16/2010
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Originally posted by ifyouseekLEM
Unlike Michael, whose name will be the only artist attached to his record.
Katy's ass has to cite Snoop Dogg, Missy Elliott, B.o.B and Kanye West for all helping push her through the finish line.
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Member Since: 9/7/2010
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Originally posted by Deemy
Why would you make this thread now when she hasn't even got this #1 yet. Its gonna be even worse if she fails for 3 weeks straight.
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She ain't going #1,that's already clear and I've already explained why I made this thread.
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Member Since: 9/23/2009
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Originally posted by Ruben
When the song was stuck at #2, and that little push help her get the #1
Same thing for S&M, when it was stucked at #2, the remix gave the extra push to get the #1. It's all fair!
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BUT THAT'S BRITNEY, BITCH
S&M may have been all business to start -- but at least Britney and Rihanna performed it. We're not gonna see Missy, B.o.B, or Kanye doing/promoting their songs with Katy.
And S&M was a huge thing. It gained HUGE media coverage and was actually played on radio...not some irrelevant ass B-List (aside from Kanye) artist hopping on a track for quickie urban spins.
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Member Since: 12/1/2010
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Originally posted by Ruben
To everything??
California Gurls, Teenage Dream, Firework, I Kissed a Girl... all reached #1 without using such tactics. Let's not act as if she can't reach #1 on her own. E.T. got a remix, but the remix was released as the official single. I'm sure if your favorites do the same thing you will not be saying that.
And because nobody think alike, I may think something is right and something is wrong, you might think the opposite, that is why we have laws. And because it's not a crime to make such remixes to achieve a better position, and you say it's not right, doesn't mean everyone will think that. I think is a fair, if she does it, why the others can't?
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Do you really think it would be such a big deal if Katy left it at E.T., then came back with the next album and discounted one single, and then waited until the next to have a last minute remix? I doubt. It wouldn't be such a big deal. Yes, this is a business and it is a useful tactic - but it is still desperate. If Gaga remixed/discounted all of her albums [opening week] from here on out, I would think she is was cheap.
Right now Hudson might as well be taking a sibling to prom. D-E-S-P-E-R-A-T-E.
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Member Since: 12/28/2010
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Just like Rihanna's name when she finally snatches Mariah's record for most #1s...
Her name will be attatched to Britney, Calvin Harris, Eminem, Jay Z, Drake, and probably more to come.
Still, she'll break the record.
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Member Since: 6/22/2011
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Originally posted by Ruben
When the song was stuck at #2, and that little push help her get the #1
Same thing for S&M, when it was stucked at #2, the remix gave the extra push to get the #1. It's all fair!
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The One That Got Away was #9 last week, before the discount.... is that still a 'little push'
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Originally posted by ifyouseekLEM
Unlike Michael, whose name will be the only artist attached to his record.
Katy's ass has to cite Snoop Dogg, Missy Elliott, B.o.B and Kanye West for all helping push her through the finish line.
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The ****ing tea.
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Member Since: 9/7/2010
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Originally posted by FAME.
Looks like your plant backfired. But I think you know she's desperate yourself and just can't bring yourself to admit it. When you have to constantly post and try to go out of your way to prove that something isn't desperate or pathetic.... It kind of just proves it.
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I've called her desperate and God knows what other words so many times this week.I'm not one of those delusional fans,not even close.
The best for you would be to don't talk about something you obviously don't know.
I've made this thread just to prove many other acts were doing the same or worse things in past because most of members here think Katy's the only and biggest act behind this. And nothing has backfired,we're on ATRL.
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