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Discussion: White privilege is real.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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They both have bad reputations, but Purpose was a LOT more successful, so I don't get why this is a surprise? Kanye has had two Album Of The Year noms in the past and three more as a producer. He just got twice as many noms as Bieber. If TLOP had even half the success of Purpose it easily would have snagged a nomination.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Why do these so called "people of colour" want the validation of white people so bad? Are the Grammys that big of a deal? The delusion and victimization is real, the Grammys isn't racist and white artists aren't more privileged. Isn't the hive constantly gloating about all of her accolades and success? These are the same folks who will go into another thread and whine about alleged racism and privilege.
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Member Since: 8/3/2012
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They also nominated VIEWS which is just as bad (along with 25). All 3 are awful.
But yes, Grammys are trash. What's new.
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Member Since: 3/18/2012
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Critical acclaim does not equal Grammy's, you should know that by now. The Grammy's are basically a popularity contest so you shouldn't hold them to a higher standard just because they're the Grammy's
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Member Since: 9/9/2012
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Originally posted by Fanik
Chris Brown won his first Grammy after he assaulted Rihanna
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Yes, in the R&B field. An AOTY nom?
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Shut the hell up.
Your not being open-minded or looking at the big picture. All I can see it that you don't like Bieber. If he made a good album, he deserves a nom. It was much better than Drake's album anyways
Blacks were the most nominated this year. We won. Get yourself together, and celebrate our achievements.
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It's a shame that you didn't know that Watch The Throne was the main reason MBDTF got no nomination for AOTY since it split the votes
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by iHype.
Yes, in the R&B field. An AOTY nom?
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So? A grammy is a grammy.
All these black artists getting recognized and you're throwing a tantrum because Kanye didn't get a certain nomination, despite having 8? That's called entitlement. You people will never be appeased, sad.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Also, what Bieber did was nothing compared to what Kanye West did that year. LOL.
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Member Since: 1/3/2014
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This is not an "excuse." It's not the "reason." But you can't deny that it's most definitely a "factor." The album is extremely mediocre and shouldn't have even been in the running for AOTY. HUNDREDS of other albums this year would have been a better choice for Purpose's slot.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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The point is the AOTY isn't based on any of the things you're mentioning, its based on popularity and some small degree of competency which is the only reason why Drake is nominated
The argument you want to make is pretty forced when connecting it to the grammys. A wider point about why JB has had commercial success despite his behaviour is more worthy of discussion but even then he has a constant stream of criticism and backlash his way. Purpose was just musically huge, before that he was kind of flopping.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Quote:
Originally posted by Souled Out
Life of Pablo doesn't deserve a nomination and neither does Purpose.
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You have an AVI of Rita Ora, you know nothing of talent, quality, or excellence. Take a seat.
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Member Since: 2/8/2014
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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I also dont get your jail argument. MANY artists who have gone to jail have won Grammy's
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Member Since: 9/18/2010
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Are you just now realizing this or?
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Let's not forget that Purpose was huge, had 3 #1 singles in the US and it's not that bad.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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I don't even like Bieber but his album was way bigger than Kanye West could ever dream. Kanye never had a WW hit that's not featuring Katy Perry.
His music is trash, he's pure trash, he lies, he talks **** about everybody. Bieber is just a jerk, nothing else.
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Member Since: 9/9/2012
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Quote:
Originally posted by Hazard
So? A grammy is a grammy.
All these black artists getting recognized and you're throwing a tantrum because Kanye didn't get a certain nomination, despite having 8? That's called entitlement. You people will never be appeased, sad.
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The resorting to racism for me calling something out.
Where did I say black artists aren't recognized? Stop putting words in my mouth
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Originally posted by Coklek92
It's a shame that you didn't know that Watch The Throne was the main reason MBDTF got no nomination for AOTY since it split the votes
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Yes, because Watch the Throne (78 on Metacritic) and My Beautiful Dark (94 on Metacritic) definitely left the committee TORN on which was better.
You falling for that lame excuse (which is understandable since you likely knew nothing about either album)
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Member Since: 8/16/2011
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iHype sis, you need to stop. AOTY has always had one or 2 messy noms in a given year. IASF, Loud, and Teenage Dream have been nominated despite being panned just to get the artists to perform.
Everyone's overlooking justin's character because the music was good and successful this time around. He didn't beat anyone like Chris Brown and still win a Grammy over an acclaimed album like 4 from an acclaimed artist like Beyoncé. Now that was a real mess.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Wow, white ATRL makes my head spin.
The lack of awareness. Bieber has benefited from his white privellge his entire career and if his chizzled stomach makes you moist enough to disregard his disgusting actions then so be it. No amount of "black nominations" will negate that.
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