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News: Brexit blocked by the High Court
Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Talent losing!
On a serious note they'll be difficult over this, but it's gonna pass pretty easily.
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Member Since: 3/5/2011
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Originally posted by J-esper
Didn't knew that, so it works both ways obviously I mean at the end of the day it is all a "if" game. Because also a group didn't voted, so we don't know even IF people have been educated at that point, they would have voted leave or stay. I just based my opinion on articles I read and on various UK friends I have and what they shared, both leave and stay voters. So yeah no need to call my contempt disgusting at all. Just like I wouldn't call your contempt disgusting. Agree to disagree
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You made a sweeping generalisation about people who voted for Brexit. I understand where it comes from. Generally, people with higher levels of education voted for Remain. But understand why those with less education voted Leave; they are poorer, are expected to bear the brunt of the effects of mass immigration, and watch the European project get bigger and bigger to the benefit of big corporations at their expense.
I broke the mould in that I am a Cambridge-educated, relatively wealthy gay man who voted for Brexit. But I did that for reasons of democracy and national sovereignty.
That said, I never judged those who voted Remain as I have been judged for voting Leave.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Britain needs to leave the E.U. as in ASAP.
They“re just sucking all the resources of the continental Europe without giving anything in return and yet they complain that immigrants are taking over Britain while they take 100 millions of Euros out of Europe. The hypocrisy.
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Member Since: 4/11/2012
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Originally posted by Darren-5-08
Brexit was our independence. Immigration was never a deciding issue for me, because I am well off and am never going to be affected by mass immigration like poor people are. But fundamentally I believe in democracy. At an election, the public gives its power to its elected representatives, and that power must be returned IN FULL at the next election. Successive parliaments have made that impossible to do as they have been handing over our powers to unelected bureaucrats in the European Union without the consent of the British people. Things like that make me feel disgraced.
And Britain is one of the best places in the world to live. That's why everyone wants to come here.
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Schriming, "I'm rich so who cares about poverty" teas. No wonder you're a-okay with Brexit and the economy going ****-up, lucky you will be fine.
But sure hun, it is for white British people. Meanwhile legal immigrants are being physically assaulted on the streets, but ofc that's not a problem. And like it's been said, a huge portion of people that voted had no clue what they were voting for. SURE that's democracy, but it's also intensively destructive and counterproductive. The reason these people are elected into positions of power where they can decide things with us is because they spend the majority of their life studying and experiencing things we don't have a clue about. Sure that makes me a hypocrite but why on earth should people that barely understand the benefits they're on be able to decide what happens to this country's complex economy?
I mean you're literally justifying the public voting for anything. If we voted on whether to drop a nuclear bomb on Syria, that would be kool with you? Because it's all in the name of democracy and that's what the people voted? People are idiots.
Hoping you grow out of your naivety and idealism one day mate.
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Member Since: 3/5/2011
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Originally posted by Jack. Bauer
Schriming, "I'm rich so who cares about poverty" teas. No wonder you're a-okay with Brexit and the economy going ****-up, lucky you will be fine.
But sure hun, it is for white British people. Meanwhile legal immigrants are being physically assaulted on the streets, but ofc that's not a problem. And like it's been said, a huge portion of people that voted had no clue what they were voting for. SURE that's democracy, but it's also intensively destructive and counterproductive. The reason these people are elected into positions of power where they can decide things with us is because they spend the majority of their life studying and experiencing things we don't have a clue about. Sure that makes me a hypocrite but why on earth should people that barely understand the benefits they're on be able to decide what happens to this country's complex economy?
I mean you're literally justifying the public voting for anything. If we voted on whether to drop a nuclear bomb on Syria, that would be kool with you? Because it's all in the name of democracy and that's what the people voted? People are idiots.
Hoping you grow out of your naivety and idealism one day mate.
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That's not what I was saying at all, moron. What I was saying is that I am not affected by mass immigration like poor people are. So for me, my reasons for voting for Brexit varied compared to other people.
Your contempt for democracy is uncanny, though. I totally see why you're so attached to the EU. I happen to believe our economy will be stronger outside the EU, but I guess we'll see who's right in about 10 years time.
Just because you're pressedT about losing the referendum, though, doesn't give you an excuse to generalise about British voters and ignore the result.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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We actually contribute like £161m (I think) more to the EU than we get back, nice try
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Originally posted by Jack. Bauer
Schriming, "I'm rich so who cares about poverty" teas. No wonder you're a-okay with Brexit and the economy going ****-up, lucky you will be fine.
But sure hun, it is for white British people. Meanwhile legal immigrants are being physically assaulted on the streets, but ofc that's not a problem. And like it's been said, a huge portion of people that voted had no clue what they were voting for. SURE that's democracy, but it's also intensively destructive and counterproductive. The reason these people are elected into positions of power where they can decide things with us is because they spend the majority of their life studying and experiencing things we don't have a clue about. Sure that makes me a hypocrite but why on earth should people that barely understand the benefits they're on be able to decide what happens to this country's complex economy?
I mean you're literally justifying the public voting for anything. If we voted on whether to drop a nuclear bomb on Syria, that would be kool with you? Because it's all in the name of democracy and that's what the people voted? People are idiots.
Hoping you grow out of your naivety and idealism one day mate.
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Embarrassing
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Member Since: 3/5/2011
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Originally posted by Diarrhoea
We actually contribute like £161m (I think) more to the EU than we get back, nice try
Embarrassing
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It was estimated we paid them £248million per WEEK in 2015.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by LuLuDrops
Watch EU Court be like we'll well well and they dismiss Leave's appeal
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Bye!
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Darren-5-08
It was estimated we paid them £248million per WEEK in 2015.
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But we had £4.5bn spent on us last year, which means that we have a net contribution of £23m a day/£161m a week.
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Member Since: 3/5/2011
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Originally posted by Diarrhoea
But we had £4.5bn spent on us last year, which means that we have a net contribution of £23m a day/£161m a week.
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Absolutely, that's correct. Although an article by The Telegraph found that in additional contributions our total was actually £12.1billion 2015. Ridiculous numbers.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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I don't know what is so hard to understand about this ruling. IT ISN'T JUST ABOUT WHETHER WE SHOULD LEAVE THE EU. It is stating that parliament has the right to vote on the PROCESS, and what KIND of Brexit we get.
Jesus.
It isn't up to Theresa May to decide what kind of Brexit we get. The question wasn't "Should we leave the single market" - We know we're leaving the EU and parliament will vote it through. The bigger issue is what TYPE of relationship we have with the EU, and THAT is what parliament have a right to debate and discuss. It isn't up to un-elected Theresa May to decide that.
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Member Since: 3/5/2011
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Originally posted by Cupid
It's still going to pass, but I'm glad they're making it difficult and delaying the process. Nobody knew what they were voting for, the number one criticism by a HUGE majority was that they didn't have enough facts before the vote. People over 55+ all bored leave while everyone under voted remain (majorities). Ridiculous.
Wish we could revote, sadly not.
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Sadly not for Vote Leave, to be honest. All the evidence and opinion polls show the majority would be even bigger if we had a second referendum.
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Member Since: 1/3/2014
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Originally posted by Jack. Bauer
Girl you don't WANT to live here anymore, foreign people are being physically attacked all over the place. I've never been more embarrassed or disgraced to be British.
Brexit was a vile thing, for one reason if not another. Had I been a Leave voter I probably would have voted to stay for the exact same reason most Leave voters voted out - immigration and humane tolerance.
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But its been my dream since I was young
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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THANK GOD. Please let it end already, i need the pound to start rising again to i can shop abroad
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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this theatre lol. could you guys just leave finally?
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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Originally posted by CakeLike
THANK GOD. Please let it end already, i need the pound to start rising again to i can shop abroad
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