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Tear gas at the protest. Its literally, wash, rinse, repeat at this point
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RIP
#BlackLivesMatter #BlueLivesWillNeverMatter
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Originally posted by loveless
I get that, but what will violent protest produce? More hate? More prejudice? More reasons why it's okay for police to kill unarmed black men? Tell me.
We all can do something about racism today. Each and everyone of us. But it must be done with love, peace and patience.
For instance, you see a an older White lady that seems timid and uneasy around black people, why not wave and smile at her, compliment her, help her if she needs it? Knowing of their ignorance, why not teach and show them their error through your actions of kindness. Show them that Black people (and other races) aren't the heartless, thugs that they ignorantly believe them to be. The same for White people teach and show Black people (and other races) that you aren't the racist they the ignorantly believe you are.
If you want change then you have to do something about it. If you chose to do nothing about it, then you forfeit your right to complain, imo.
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They don't need a reason, never had one, and the whole violence creating a reason is a lie to excuse their disgusting behavior. They'll do anything to make themselves seem right in killing.
That old white lady would probably frown at me or not give a damn, you can't change every racist by being nice and having to bend over backwards just to get treated like a human being is tiresome.
Not everyone gives a **** that not every Black person is a thug cause they have notions they think are right and that's that.
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Originally posted by loveless
I get that, but what will violent protest produce? More hate? More prejudice? More reasons why it's okay for police to kill unarmed black men? Tell me.
We all can do something about racism today. Each and everyone of us. But it must be done with love, peace and patience.
For instance, you see a an older White lady that seems timid and uneasy around black people, why not wave and smile at her, compliment her, help her if she needs it? Knowing of their ignorance, why not teach and show them their error through your actions of kindness. Show them that Black people (and other races) aren't the heartless, thugs that they ignorantly believe them to be. The same for White people teach and show Black people (and other races) that you aren't the racist they the ignorantly believe you are.
If you want change then you have to do something about it. If you chose to do nothing about it, then you forfeit your right to complain, imo.
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What is this messy post?
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Originally posted by loveless
If you want change then you have to do something about it. If you chose to do nothing about it, then you forfeit your right to complain, imo.
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Originally posted by Callisto.
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I understand that we have a LONG way to go, but this is a mess (I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to say with this, so I won't make any assumptions).
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Originally posted by Toya
he's basically blaming minorities for the racism they experience
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Is he Morgan Freeman? Ooh Obedient slave! take these lashings but show em you will fight at the front of the line and carry the flag!
(I was watching Glory sorry)
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Originally posted by MP2K
Is he Morgan Freeman? Ooh Obedient slave! take these lashings but show em you will fight at the front of the line and carry the flag!
(I was watching Glory sorry)
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Originally posted by MP2K
Is he Morgan Freeman? Ooh Obedient slave! take these lashings but show em you will fight at the front of the line and carry the flag!
(I was watching Glory sorry)
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Originally posted by Sin
I understand that we have a LONG way to go, but this is a mess (I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to say with this, so I won't make any assumptions).
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We've been protesting PEACFULLY for decades.
Asking for equality and to be seen as humans
So for him to say nobody is doing NOTHING and that peaceful protest and teaching people about the black struggle means NOTHING because we're still dying, oppressed and hated!
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I'm heartbroken.
Just absolutely shattered.
It's just absolutely sickening what the hell is going on in our country. Grew up in Charlotte and..there really are no words.
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Are you KIDDING me?
RIP to a great man
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Originally posted by Toya
he's basically blaming minorities for the racism they experience
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Not at all. We're talking about fighting racism, correct? What I'm saying is in order to over come racism, you can't act in a racist manner. People are going to hate you regardless, and hatred is likely the the result of ignorance. In other words, people will hate you because they don't know you; they hate the person they think you are. They're ignorant.
You can fight racism with racism, or you can fight racism with knowledge, patience, peace and love. I'm basically saying the latter is the correct way.
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Originally posted by loveless
I get that, but what will violent protest produce? More hate? More prejudice? More reasons why it's okay for police to kill unarmed black men? Tell me.
We all can do something about racism today. Each and everyone of us. But it must be done with love, peace and patience.
For instance, you see a an older White lady that seems timid and uneasy around black people, why not wave and smile at her, compliment her, help her if she needs it? Knowing of their ignorance, why not teach and show them their error through your actions of kindness. Show them that Black people (and other races) aren't the heartless, thugs that they ignorantly believe them to be. The same for White people teach and show Black people (and other races) that you aren't the racist they the ignorantly believe you are.
If you want change then you have to do something about it. If you chose to do nothing about it, then you forfeit your right to complain, imo.
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Do you really think millions of black people aren't ALREADY doing this daily? When I see an old white lady, I most certainly don't run up on her, pull out a gun and demand her purse. Black people smile and wave and have normal, cordial conversations with people every day, just like any other race. And I know plenty of white people who are not racists. None of that really means much when, at the end of the day here we are some 50+ years after MLK, and most white people (i.e. the people who basically rule the country and, arguably, a lot of the world) still don't respect their fellow black citizens enough to do anything about the legal, mass-execution of their community.
Everything you're saying has ALREADY been tried. We've been playing the peace game since slavery ended. America hasn't learned a thing. No more of the "change takes time" bs. You could keep saying that until we're centuries into this **** and still aint a damn thing changed. There is going to come a time when all of the peacefulness and love that black people have been giving will turn sour.
You don't seem to understand that people are not going to sit around for another 50+ years while their loved ones get murdered one by one by the people sworn to serve and protect them. Minorities are all getting fed up with this power struggle. I will always think peace, love and kindness should be the ideal goal, but sometimes, that is just not the reality. The police have made sure of that.
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Originally posted by loveless
Not at all. We're talking about fighting racism, correct? What I'm saying is in order to over come racism, you can't act in a racist manner. People are going to hate you regardless, and hatred is likely the the result of ignorance. In other words, people will hate you because they don't know you; they hate the person they think you are. They're ignorant.
You can fight racism with racism, or you can fight racism with tolerance, patience, peace and love. I'm basically saying the latter is the correct way.
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And that's the problem. Also educating people even makes them angry, hate being told they're being wrong and gross. Then there's those that know and just don't care. Racism is so complicated, smiling and playing nice with both hands open and tap dancing for a "thank god you aren't a thug!" ain't it. If that was so racism would have been dead but here we are.
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Originally posted by Shizuka
And that's the problem. Also educating people even makes them angry, hate being told they're being wrong and gross. Then there's those that know and just don't care. Racism is so complicated, smiling and playing nice with both hands open and tap dancing for a "thank god you aren't a thug!" ain't it. If that was so racism would have been dead but here we are.
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Originally posted by loveless
Not at all. We're talking about fighting racism, correct? What I'm saying is in order to over come racism, you can't act in a racist manner. People are going to hate you regardless, and hatred is likely the the result of ignorance. In other words, people will hate you because they don't know you; they hate the person they think you are. They're ignorant.
You can fight racism with racism, or you can fight racism with knowledge, patience, peace and love. I'm basically saying the latter is the correct way.
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The officer who shot him was allegedly black, we are talking about police brutality
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Unbelievable
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Originally posted by cloudinthesky
Do you really think millions of black people aren't ALREADY doing this daily? When I see an old white lady, I most certainly don't run up on her, pull out a gun and demand her purse. Black people smile and wave and have normal, cordial conversations with people every day, just like any other race. And I know plenty of white people who are not racists. None of that really matters when, at the end of the day here we are some 50+ years after MLK, and most white people (i.e. the people who basically rule the country and, arguably, a lot of the world) still don't respect their fellow black citizens enough to do anything about the legal, mass-execution of their community.
Everything you're saying is ALREADY been tried. We've been doing it since slavery ended, and here we are. America hasn't learned a thing. No more of the "change takes time" bs. You could keep saying that until we're centuries into this **** and still aint a damn thing changed. There is going to come a time when all of the peacefulness and love that black people have been giving will turn sour.
You don't seem to understand that people are not going to sit around for another 50+ years while their loved ones get murdered one by one by the people sworn to serve and protect them.
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Yes, some people do it already. But imagine if the majority of Black people did it? Imagine if the majority of White people did it? Do you really think racism would be as bad as it is today if everybody was being cordial and helpful to each other?
The problem, imo, is a lack of communication. We're divided because we don't know each other, we only know about each other, we're told what to believe. People are more afraid of Black and Latin people because of how they are portrayed in the media. They're more likely to believe White people are racist for that very reason. People avoid and look down on each other because of this.
The whole purpose of the White lady example was to show that we can do something about racism, even if it's only changing one person each day. Obviously, we're not going eradicate racism over night, but we can purpose ourselves to fight it everyday. And it will take time.
Also, There are ways to fight/change racism in the legal system, but I doubt violence is one of them. What do you think a violent protest will solve? What result do you think we'll get from it?
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