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Discussion: What Makes Christina A Legend?
Member Since: 10/28/2009
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Originally posted by ririlurker
Beyonce and Tina Turner are reliable artists, Icons, they have big fanbases, they can tour amazingly, have staying power, but they are not Legends because they do not appeal to everyone worldwide as legends do and overshadow everyone else. Did Beyonce and Tina Turner ever overshadowed all the competition? They have their (big) niche, but they never blew up like Gaga or even Whitney. As for Rihanna, she was just getting started, she got everything right maybe with a bit of luck (especially getting Disturbia), yeah maybe she didn't have it in her to sustain that level of success, we will never know.
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Tina Turner's comeback era. She's the Queen of Rock & was once referred to as the Queen of Pop at that time. She owned.
The fact that she can still tour big without doing heavy promo or no album out proves everything.
DEATH@"big niche." Oxymoron.
Beyonce still has time, no one said she was a legend. She's damn sure closer to it than Rihanna could ever be. Everything Rihanna has done has been done bigger & better by Lady Gaga.
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Member Since: 8/22/2009
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Originally posted by Captain Planet
It's possible to be both.
Michael and The Beatles could be viewed as both iconic and legendary.
BTW, check out my new thread.
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And the legendary status came with time, not with costumes or stunts! When your career lasts long enough 25-30+ years, you can be called a legend.
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Member Since: 11/24/2009
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Originally posted by Satellites
Icon, you obviously missed my entire point!
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Awards + acclaim =/= legend. It's nice, and it helps, but it's not what makes or prevents you from being a legend.
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Member Since: 8/22/2009
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Originally posted by zach
Legends, to me are artists who have made a big impact on pop culture.
Just by one song, Beautiful, makes Xtina a legend.
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Icon.
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Member Since: 9/25/2001
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Originally posted by zach
Maybe to you. But not to me. If an artist makes a major impact on pop culture, it makes them a legend. They are a part of the history, I guess you could say.
Just like Gaga, I consider her a legend. Her music is pretty much the reason why most music now is all dance in the US.
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You're confused. I'm clearly a huge GaGa stan but not even I am delusional enough to call her a legend.
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Member Since: 10/28/2009
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Originally posted by Satellites
I almost snatched my wig off and went after him, I had to calm myself down.
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Don't get hostile.
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Member Since: 10/6/2010
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Originally posted by ririlurker
Beyonce and Tina Turner are reliable artists, Icons, they have big fanbases, they can tour amazingly, have staying power, but they are not Legends because they do not appeal to everyone worldwide as legends do and overshadow everyone else. Did Beyonce and Tina Turner ever overshadowed all the competition? They have their (big) niche, but they never blew up like Gaga or even Whitney. As for Rihanna, she was just getting started, she got everything right maybe with a bit of luck (especially getting Disturbia), yeah maybe she didn't have it in her to sustain that level of success, we will never know.
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Beyonce and her music are still very current. She has time and she will not fade away. She's proven time and time again that she's here to stay. where are the other r&b/pop girls?
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Member Since: 11/13/2008
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Originally posted by zach
Maybe to you. But not to me. If an artist makes a major impact on pop culture, it makes them a legend. They are a part of the history, I guess you could say.
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Then Aguilera is definitely not a legend by this definition. She's had about zero cultural impact(if any outside of her first 1-3 years), her influence is nowhere to be found. The new current crop of girls in the pop scene would show clear and obvious influence from her should have been the case, as it was 10 years ago when Brit, Aguilera, Mandy, and Jessica came out. She's just another pop tart with a single memorable song. That doesn't make a legend, that makes a VH1 Where Are They Now special.
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Member Since: 7/18/2010
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Everyone has a different definition of a legend. And that's great for you all.
Xtina's stans/fans call her Legendtina. Gaga's Godga. Etc. All stans bow down to their fave and hold them up in a pedestal. What's the big deal?
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Member Since: 2/26/2006
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Originally posted by Satellites
When your career lasts long enough 25-30+ years, you can be called a legend.
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THIS!!!
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Member Since: 11/13/2008
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
Awards + acclaim =/= legend. It's nice, and it helps, but it's not what makes or prevents you from being a legend.
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I agree completely with this, you may have a room devoted to gold statues, but no amount of awards or critic's reviews will ever set a solid bar on when you become a legend.
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Member Since: 7/18/2010
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Originally posted by Aliens & Rainbows
You're confused. I'm clearly a huge GaGa stan but not even I am delusional enough to call her a legend.
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I'm not confused. Gaga is deff a legend. All her songs impact are just...
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Member Since: 11/16/2010
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Originally posted by zach
I'm not confused. Gaga is deff a legend. All her songs impact are just...
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No. Longevity is a key part of being a legend.
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Member Since: 3/18/2008
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Originally posted by zach
I'm not confused. Gaga is deff a legend. All her songs impact are just...
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NO.
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Member Since: 10/6/2010
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Originally posted by Ghandi
She's just another pop tart with a single memorable song. That doesn't make a legend, that makes a VH1 Where Are They Now special.
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Member Since: 7/18/2010
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Originally posted by Symphonic
No. Longevity is a key part of being a legend.
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And I also said in my opinion. I wasn't trying to convince anybody.
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Member Since: 9/25/2001
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If you're still a famous singer with hits and loads of album sales and sold out tours after TWO decades, then = legend.
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Member Since: 3/18/2008
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Originally posted by Symphonic
No. Longevity is a key part of being a legend.
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Impact + Longevity = Legend
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Member Since: 8/22/2009
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
Awards + acclaim =/= legend. It's nice, and it helps, but it's not what makes or prevents you from being a legend.
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I didnt say that was the entire criteria now did I? She like James Dean, Britney Spears, and Betty Boop is an icon. She is not a legendary actress at all. And before you go off, acting was her profession so in that field where she started she is not a legend like Grace Kelly or Katherine Hepburn. She became a pop culture icon because of her look, her stunts with men, and the clothing... For Pete's sake, I just looked at her freaking Wikipedia and even it says pop/cultural icon.
Where is her Academy Award?
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Member Since: 11/16/2010
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Originally posted by zach
And I also said in my opinion. I wasn't trying to convince anybody.
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Ok, sorry. I just think that you need to be around for atleast 20 years to achieve legend status. Or achieve a hella lot in a shorter amount of time.
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