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Discussion: Question for anti-Black Lives Matter users...
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Originally posted by EtherealCat
Is there something wrong with Europe being 90%+ white?
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The person was using anecdotal "evidence" to suggest that they don't believe black people face problems due to being black, yet they're from one of the most racially homogeneous places within the world, no matter where they may be from within Europe.
Such a suggestion is not only is tone-deaf to the measurable racism Black Europeans face, but it suggests a false equivalency that allows white Europeans to use their vastly and inherently privileged positions to silence Black Americans.
White Europeans need to work on the staggering racism & xenophobia in their own countries, not trying to deny that these things exist in America and speak over a vastly different population, with experiences they have no ability to know.
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Originally posted by new evolution
Too bad for you they weren't ignored. They were highly publicized but I don't remember the last time the killing of a white person by a cop in the US was as publicized, even though it's a more common event
Police brutality is a big problem indeed and I don't think authorities have the right to do this kind of stuff, but BLM acts like black people are the only ones who face this
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Being on the news doesn't change the fact those crimes go unpunished which is the real issue here.
Also a white young man named Dylan Noble was very publicized barely a month ago.
So what they put those crying mothers, sons and families on tv when the justice system says those people died with no actual killer.
BLM never implies no one else faces injustice, being focused on a community mattering as well when crimes continue to happen without any proper response that shows consequence shouldn't be frowned upon.
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Member Since: 9/8/2012
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Originally posted by bleuwaffle
About the whole pride thing, what exactly is there to be proud of? Is it about the struggles you face as a minority?
I'm Latino and gay and feel pride in neither since I didn't earn or have a say in my identity, but I'm legitimately curious as to what you guys think.
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Pride is there to celebrate the achievements that have been made for equality surrounding non-normative sexualities.
And #BLACKLIVESMATTER
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Originally posted by Beatz
The #BlackLivesMatter terrorist movement should be criminalized.
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Praying for you and the sickness living in your mind
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Member Since: 7/22/2012
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let me just sit back and watch
but let's be honest, these people are the same who extremize movements to make it match their own twisted agenda.
just look at what happened with feminism. dehumanize, call it a joke, SJW just to make it go away
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Originally posted by new evolution
Too bad for you they weren't ignored. They were highly publicized but I don't remember the last time the killing of a white person by a cop in the US was as publicized, even though it's a more common event
Police brutality is a big problem indeed and I don't think authorities have the right to do this kind of stuff, but BLM acts like black people are the only ones who face this
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Despite being highly publicized, most cops are walking away scot free of any charges for senseless killings.
And you're correct, it's not just black people who are affected by police brutality, but that doesn't mean that they can't fight for their own community when it's being targeted. A lot of whites, latinos, Asians, etc are also fighting against police brutality, but the sect of individual movements aren't as highly publicized due to lack of mobility. The media is really the one who has made the BLM movement the face of anti-police brutality due to them being such a vocal and strong force. But within the BLM movement is thousands of other minorities standing with the cause in an effort to form a stronger alliance.
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Originally posted by Communion
The person was using anecdotal "evidence" to suggest that they don't believe black people face problems due to being black, yet they're from one of the most racially homogeneous places within the world, no matter where they may be from within Europe.
Such a suggestion is not only is tone-deaf to the measurable racism Black Europeans face, but it suggests a false equivalency that allows white Europeans to use their vastly and inherently privileged positions to silence Black Americans.
White Europeans need to work on the staggering racism & xenophobia in their own countries, not trying to deny that these things exist in America and speak over a vastly different population, with experiences they have no ability to know.
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You have the experiences to make all these statements, because....?
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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Originally posted by bleuwaffle
About the whole pride thing, what exactly is there to be proud of? Is it about the struggles you face as a minority?
I'm Latino and gay and feel pride in neither since I didn't earn or have a say in my identity, but I'm legitimately curious as to what you guys think.
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Proud to be openly who you are.
Proud to not feel shame anymore.
Proud to be part of an amazing community.
Proud to openly kiss your lover in the streets.
Proud of your (gay) friends.
Proud of your (gay) family.
There is literally so much to be proud of. You didn't choose who you are, but you are still judged for it and Pride challenges that idea.
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Originally posted by new evolution
Too bad for you they weren't ignored. They were highly publicized but I don't remember the last time the killing of a white person by a cop in the US was as publicized, even though it's a more common event
Police brutality is a big problem indeed and I don't think authorities have the right to do this kind of stuff, but BLM acts like black people are the only ones who face this
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I haven't looking to this but maybe the amount of unarmed whites being killed is within a reasonable margin of error. Blacks however are being killed disproportionally
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Originally posted by new evolution
Too bad for you they weren't ignored. They were highly publicized but I don't remember the last time the killing of a white person by a cop in the US was as publicized, even though it's a more common event
Police brutality is a big problem indeed and I don't think authorities have the right to do this kind of stuff, but BLM acts like black people are the only ones who face this
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You're being facetious and equating media attention as the most valuable form of justice.
Even if black men murdered by cops get routinely more media attention (they don't), we see that white men murdered are more likely to get LEGAL JUSTICE for their unlawful executions.
The body cam footage of Dylan Noble's murder has been released and it is likely his investigation will be sped up and his mother will be ensured justice. Meanwhile state governments in states with large black populations are passing laws that make body cam footage PRIVATE and exempt from becoming public record to "prevent anti-cop bias" and six people have officially gotten away with MURDERING Freddie Gray.
The extra media attention (which has only become possible BECAUSE black people now have new avenues on social media that forces their voices to be heard) is a reaction that's considered needed in the face of a continued lack of justice for black people in other forms.
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I believe there is a serious problem with race and policing in America, but those six officers should never have been charged in Freddie Gray's death. It was clear from the beginning it would be impossible to prove legal culpability, the DA rushed to file charges before completing a full investigation because she was pressured by protests and national media scrutiny.
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Originally posted by QueenBLadyG
As does every other human being (including those that support BLM), unless they are mentally off or evil. And I think this is where people get upset. Somehow saying Black Lives Matter, means you don't think all the other one's do. Completely asinine.
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You would hope every human thinks that way, but if that were true the problem wouldn't exist to begin with. But thats exactly the point, a lot of people either pro or neg "BLM" display those signs (mentally off or straight up evil), and seem to be aggressively putting down other minorities or attacking another ethnicity in their own expression for the cause, which does seem highly contradicting and counter productive.
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Originally posted by L.B GAGA
As if you treat people from asia well. Don't get me started. You guys are the pits especially eastern Europe on matters of race relations.
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I was about to post the same too. The way Latinos are treated in some European countries is and then he came here and stated all that ignorant stuff in one post.
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Originally posted by LionH3art
What are you doing for asian lives then if it's not just about the blacks. Doing nothing for any race/treat them all equal is the solution. However, there are still many people who discriminate minorities. The slogan black lives matter implies that ONLY black lives matter, it should be black lives ALSO matter.
Anyway I'm from Europe and here it's not an issue so I'm sorry if it sounds ignorant and romanticized.
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What kinda complete lie is this?
People literally use the n-word here and nobody bats and eyelash.
Casual racism is still the norm here and I'm probably one of 10 people in my whole city that don't engage in it.
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I don't see a problem I do however see a problem with AllLivesMatter people because if All Lives did in fact matter then why aren't they out here helping and protesting for the equal rights of the ones being taken away so senselessly by police brutality?
We're just saying BlackLivesMatter too because we live in a world where people are getting shot 6 times at point blank range in the chest even while restrained and the cop simply gets a paid vacation.
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I support blm in general, but if I was an Afro-American I'd rather think on how to lower my community's crime-rates through education than trying to "educate others" (=drag innocent celebs / people who think different than me) via Twitter. I adore the people who actually work to fix the issue irl.
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Originally posted by onna
I don't see a problem I do however see a problem with AllLivesMatter people because if All Lives did in fact matter then why aren't they out here helping and protesting for the equal rights of the ones being taken away so senselessly by police brutality?
We're just saying BlackLivesMatter too because we live in a world where people are getting shot 6 times at point blank range in the chest even while restrained and the cop simply gets a paid vacation.
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Many people really DO think that BLM means exclusivity and that's a fact. It's up to the members of the movement to explain to everyone in intelligent, non intrusive way. Blocking essential highways is not helping at all.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by LionH3art
What are you doing for asian lives then if it's not just about the blacks. Doing nothing for any race/treat them all equal is the solution. However, there are still many people who discriminate minorities. The slogan black lives matter implies that ONLY black lives matter, it should be black lives ALSO matter.
Anyway I'm from Europe and here it's not an issue so I'm sorry if it sounds ignorant and romanticized.
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So much wrong with this post. Where do I even start?
Well first, doing nothing for anyone is probably the most useless idea I've ever heard to end racial inequality. Also this may be because English isn't your first language but black lives matter doesn't imply ONLY black lives matter. That doesn't even make sense. But the part that is the most problematic is you thinking Europe doesn't have racial inequality or issues. You really need to educate yourself and realize this stuff is most likely happening right outside your window.
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Member Since: 4/23/2012
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Originally posted by new evolution
Too bad for you they weren't ignored. They were highly publicized but I don't remember the last time the killing of a white person by a cop in the US was as publicized, even though it's a more common event
Police brutality is a big problem indeed and I don't think authorities have the right to do this kind of stuff, but BLM acts like black people are the only ones who face this
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Congrats you just provided the most ignorant comment in the entire thread. Where are the stats claiming that white are more likely to be killed by police officers than other races? And BLM acts like black people are the only ones who face police brutality? Yet here you are in this here thread, a non-black person, complaining about police brutality against whites. So not only is your statement inaccurate, ignorant and inconsiderate but it's also hypocritical.
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