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Discussion: First to get a number #1: Ariana or Selena?
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Originally posted by hardbrit
IF Ariana is bigger than Selena, someone explain the reason Focus, Dangerous woman and Into You aren't platinum despite getting performances. You'd think someone as big as her, that doesn't need features could get songs platinum. Focus isn't even Gold
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Focus is already platinum with streaming.
Ppl still living under the rock and think sales are the only one that matter.
Not you acting like Selena never had flops when she has 10x more flops than Ariana.
Your fave just promoted KEWK in one of the biggest show in the internet yet it's flopping. It's not even going to outpeak, outsell or outstreamed Ariana's 5th solo single One Last Time during her last era.
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Originally posted by hardbrit
IF Ariana is bigger than Selena, someone explain the reason Focus, Dangerous woman and Into You aren't platinum despite getting performances. You'd think someone as big as her, that doesn't need features could get songs platinum. Focus isn't even Gold
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Ariana's TIME 100 Most Influential People placement already set them apart.
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OT: Ariana.
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These things are totally unpredictable. The GP sometimes just cling to one song out of nowhere.
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Selena is bigger than ever so she has a chance with her next era lead.
Ariana basically already have a #1 in the meaning of a hugh hit, even if it technically peaked at #2. But her chances of getting another one seem smaller than Selena's, unless she'll have a game-changing feature (Drake?).
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Quote:
Originally posted by hardbrit
IF Ariana is bigger than Selena, someone explain the reason Focus, Dangerous woman and Into You aren't platinum despite getting performances. You'd think someone as big as her, that doesn't need features could get songs platinum. Focus isn't even Gold
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Focus went Platinum (1,000,000) with tragic sales of 387,500 copies sold.
Can Selena even do that? Or you all Selenators will value sales more than streams?
Has Selena achieved a 500M+ views video? No, meanwhile, Ariana has 4 already.
I think, Selena can still sell well I agree, but streaming? Selena ain't **** to reach Ariana's level.
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Originally posted by minxie
Artists go through highs and lows in their careers, like how Selena's first three albums couldn't even produce one top 20 hit (a low), or how My Everything outsold every Selena album on a global scale. (a high)
Being picky and choosy about what to compare to what is kind of transparent.
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Selena didn't peak high during her start, but she did have longevity. See the sales of those singles for example: Naturally 4x Platinum, A Year Without Rain 2x Platinum, Who Says 3x Platinum, etc....
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Originally posted by ChrisX
Selena's new era is coming soon so I'll say her. Her Revival chart performance was extraordinary. She's really found her sound.
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Extraordinary?
Revival couldn't even sell 1M copies WW.
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Quote:
Originally posted by hardbrit
IF Ariana is bigger than Selena, someone explain the reason Focus, Dangerous woman and Into You aren't platinum despite getting performances. You'd think someone as big as her, that doesn't need features could get songs platinum. Focus isn't even Gold
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If Selena is bigger than Ariana, explain to me why DW the album has already caught up to a little over half of Revival's album sales in two months.
If Selena is bigger than Ariana, how come she can't debut her album with over 100k in pure sales?
If Selena is bigger than Ariana, how come the only reason she got her two top five hits was do to payola and the radio? How come they spent like only two weeks in the top five instead of idk maybe 10?
If Selena is bigger than Ariana come she STILL hasn't outpeaked Ari?
If Selena is bigger than Ariana, why can't she get more people to review her album?
If Selena is bigger than Ariana, than why is a good amount of the headlines she does receive cosigned with another bigger artist than her.
If Selena is bigger than Ariana, does this mean she's on par with the main pop girlies.
I want to know.
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Originally posted by ˚Greedy for Ari˚
Thats funny because indirectly they're saying Mac Miller and Iggy are both bigger than Selena, since they helped Ari's singles sell millions but Selena cant help Zedd's lead single pass 2M WW (who apparently is such a good digital seller, i mean look at Break Free's sales, they're all thanks to him)
SOL had a feature, Fetty Wrap had an official remix which helped it peak (wouldn't have hit that Top 5 position without it)
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I disagree since Ariana gave Zedd Break Free as his biggest hit.
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Quote:
Originally posted by hardbrit
Selena didn't peak high during her start, but she did have longevity. See the sales of those singles for example: Naturally 4x Platinum, A Year Without Rain 2x Platinum, Who Says 3x Platinum, etc....
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Those certifications have streams included already.
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Originally posted by AFullMoonlight
If Selena is bigger than Ariana, explain to me why DW the album has already caught up to a little over half of Revival's album sales in two months.
If Selena is bigger than Ariana, how come she can't debut her album with over 100k in pure sales?
If Selena is bigger than Ariana, how come the only reason she got her two top five hits was do to payola and the radio? How come they spent like only two weeks in the top ten instead of idk maybe 10?
If Selena is bigger than Ariana come she STILL hasn't outpeaked Ari?
If Selena is bigger than Ariana, why can't she get more people to review her album?
If Selena is bigger than Ariana, than why is a good amount of the headlines she does receive cosigned with another bigger artist than her.
If Selena is bigger than Ariana, does this mean she's on par with the main pop girlies.
I want to know.
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End those Selena stans already, you go gurl.
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Originally posted by Fentydelspears
Focus went Platinum (1,000,000) with tragic sales of 387,500 copies sold.
Can Selena even do that? Or you all Selenators will value sales more than streams?
Has Selena achieved a 500M+ views video? No, meanwhile, Ariana has 4 already.
I think, Selena can still sell well I agree, but streaming? Selena ain't **** to reach Ariana's level.
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My Everything era was huge on stream, but....
Spotify Today's top artists
15. Selena Gomez (album last year)
24. Ariana Grande (album this year)
http://kworb.net/spotify/
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Quote:
Originally posted by hardbrit
Selena didn't peak high during her start, but she did have longevity. See the sales of those singles for example: Naturally 4x Platinum, A Year Without Rain 2x Platinum, Who Says 3x Platinum, etc....
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Yet Selena stans brag about peaks now when Good For You has barely outsold Love Me Harder let alone Problem. I'm sensing some sort of disconnect.
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Originally posted by Jude
Those certifications have streams included already.
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Now watch them defending streaming's impact on Selena singles' certifications but Focus's.
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Originally posted by ˚Greedy for Ari˚
Thats funny because indirectly they're saying Mac Miller and Iggy are both bigger than Selena, since they helped Ari's singles sell millions but Selena cant help Zedd's lead single pass 2M WW (who apparently is such a good digital seller, i mean look at Break Free's sales, they're all thanks to him)
SOL had a feature, Fetty Wrap had an official remix which helped it peak (wouldn't have hit that Top 5 position without it)
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the song was going top 5 with the remix or without it, the remix didn't even chart high enough to make a difference.
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Originally posted by Jude
Zedd's name helped the song to sell? Then why "Selena Gomez - I Want You To Know (feat. Zedd)" didn't happen?
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It was Zedd feat Selena Gomez.
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Originally posted by Jonathan
Ariana's TIME 100 Most Influential People placement already set them apart.
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OT: Ariana.
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+grammy nominations, billboard top earning musicians, universally acclaimed album, etc.
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Idk why Selenators are coming for Ari's promo and IY. Its not like SOL smashed out of the gate. Selena promoed that.
The only promo we are getting right now is Ari on snapchat playing with her dogs on SC while her album is playing in the back ground.
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Originally posted by Selegend
My Everything era was huge on stream, but....
Spotify Today's top artists
15. Selena Gomez (album last year)
24. Ariana Grande (album this year)
http://kworb.net/spotify/
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Do you know that kworb's Spotify chart doesn't include the whole catalog but only the CURRENT SINGLES which are charting on the Top 200?
I bet Ariana definitely gets more streams daily with the whole discography combined in compared with Selena's. Believe me, Selena ain't **** to reach Ariana's streaming level.
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