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Poll: ‘4’ VS. ‘Rated R:’ Which era was riskier?
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4
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Rated R
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I swear some of the explanations given by some posters here are plain embarrassing.
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Originally posted by Jaymz
the same can be said for Rihanna....
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No. Considering what happened with chris we did not expect another pop album. Plus rated r is more pop with element of RnB and dubstep.
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I can't at people calling '4' a flop. The singles did poor, but the album itself was the #10 best selling of the year. Anyway, I think 'Rated R' was more of a risk, but both were very risky.
To all the people saying '4' wasn't risky, her previous album was full of Pop, which gained her a lot of fans. In '4', she switched to a very different genre, which lost a lot of those Pop fans.
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why has this thread been reported....??
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Originally posted by Signs
4 Is riskier and more innovative. In RTW she brought together a dancehall and urban sound. It ranges from 90s retro urban and 80/70s pop and RnB to a mixture of soul and rock. Rated R had generic songs like rude boy and non risky songs like hard and russian roullette.
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Yass gorl. Spill all those lies and fairytales like its the real deal.
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Why has this been reported?
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Originally posted by Quiqui4eva
I can't at people calling '4' a flop. The singles did poor, but the album itself was the #10 best selling of the year. Anyway, I think 'Rated R' was more of a risk, but both were very risky.
To all the people saying '4' wasn't risky, her previous album was full of Pop, which gained her a lot of fans. In '4', she switched to a very different genre, which lost a lot of those Pop fans.
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Kii RR and 4 sold nearly the same
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Originally posted by zombaland
Yass gorl. Spill all those lies and fairytales like its the real deal.
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Rated R by so ****ing far.
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Originally posted by Signs
No. Considering what happened with chris we did not expect another pop album. Plus rated r is more pop with element of RnB and dubstep.
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I wouldn't class tracks like Fire Bomb, Cold Case Love, The Last Song as straight up pop tracks... Beyonce is well known for R&B... which is exactly what style she went for on 4... Rihanna took more of a risk regardless of what happened with Chris...
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It doesnt matter. Both have generic songs, i.e. "Countdown", "Run the World", "Best Thing I Never Had", "Rude Boy", "Te Amo", etc.
But Beyoncé came in with Run the World, not risky at all, and then went to the safest choice ever.
Rihanna came out, BAM, with Russian Roulette after a HUGE POP era. Then she chooses a big Urban single.
Plus, the image was so different.
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Originally posted by RîhMark
It doesnt matter. Both have generic songs, i.e. "Countdown", "Run the World", "Best Thing I Never Had", "Rude Boy", "Te Amo", etc.
But Beyoncé came in with Run the World, not risky at all, and then went to the safest choice ever.
Rihanna came out, BAM, with Russian Roulette after a HUGE POP era. Then she chooses a big Urban single.
Plus, the image was so different.
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I see no lies....
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The one that didn't pay off for the artist was obviously riskier.
So I voted Rate R.
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Rated 4. She released a depressing ballad as a lead single. The whole era had a different touch from what you'd expect from Rihanna.
"4" didn't feel like an era anyway.
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@RihMark i agree but "Te Amo" is not generic ... she's singing it to a female, which isn't done often ... that's why she didn't release it here. not generic
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Originally posted by Kool_Aid_King
Here's how I see it.
Beyonce could have done what she did in Sasha Fierce; Create another album catchy dance music that would sure be a success, but she didn't (Besides Run The World).
The whole album was a risk to release in this time. We live in a world where R&B music does not sell very well, and dance music with repetitive lyrics and a good beat own the radio and digital sales.
I voted for 4, but now I feel like changing my vote to Rated R.
Rihanna changed her style up for Rated R. She took a lot more risks than Bey did. She created a new image and created music she had never done before. In the past, Rihanna had not created such a dark, eerie album like Rated R. I mean, the songs on their were just completely different from what we saw from Rihanna pre-Rated R. Russian Roulette, Photographs, Cold Case Love, Wait Your Turn & G4L were all songs that shocked most listeners coming from Rihanna. I remember opening my eyes wide when I heard Rihanna swear for the first time.
At least Beyonce felt comfortable doing 4, in which there were songs that sounded like things she has done before. The biggest risk 4 took was following the Beyonce formula in a time when R&B was dying. The biggest risk Rated R took was going the opposite direction of where GGGB should have taken Rihanna. Fortunately, LOUD adjusted this path, but Rated R was just extremely risky to do.
I mean, Rihanna went from:
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Beyonce didn't really change in the 4 era. Rihanna went from being innocent Barbadian beauty, to sexy dominatrix in JUST ONE ALBUM.
That's the risk right there.
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THANK YOU.
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LOL @ people saying Bey's singles flopped. Run the World definitely did, and Countdown underperformed on pop radio. Meanwhile, Party smashed urban and so did Love on Top. BTINH was a radio hit overall. The singles are not getting played on pop radio because it's not a POP album...it's an R&B album and the songs are doing just fine on that radio. So let's stop acting like some of the biggest R&B hits of 2011 and 2012 are/were flops.
4 was way riskier anyway. She could've easily added some songs like "Radio" and "Sweet Dreams" to get pop airplay and digital sales but she didn't. Rihanna had Rude Boy (pure radio fodder) on Rated R as a backup plan if the first singles underperformed (which they did).
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Originally posted by darkfantasy
LOL @ people saying Bey's singles flopped. Run the World definitely did, and Countdown underperformed on pop radio. Meanwhile, Party smashed urban and so did Love on Top. BTINH was a radio hit overall. The singles are not getting played on pop radio because it's not a POP album...it's an R&B album and the songs are doing just fine on that radio. So let's stop acting like some of the biggest R&B hits of 2011 and 2012 are/were flops.
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How to define a delusional.
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