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ATRL: 14 year old suspended for saying Homosexuality is wrong.
Member Since: 6/28/2009
Posts: 6,960
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Originally posted by Amaru
This is ridiculous. As much as I disagree with that this child is saying, he should not be suspended for speaking his beliefs.
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Should a kid not be suspended for being racist? Any type of hatred should not be tolerated.
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Member Since: 6/28/2009
Posts: 6,960
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Originally posted by Entity
This does not warrant a ****ing suspension.
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Okay maybe not a suspension, but at least some sort of punishment. The learning environment is not a place for propaganda.
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Member Since: 6/28/2009
Posts: 6,960
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Originally posted by D/X
This is stupid as hell.
No matter if he's straight, he was born that way and free to speak up his beliefs.
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Yeah um we don't talk about our beliefs IN SCHOOL.
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Member Since: 8/10/2010
Posts: 9,489
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Originally posted by SwagLikeALegend
Yeah um we don't talk about our beliefs IN SCHOOL.
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This so dumb. Yes, we do.
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Member Since: 6/28/2009
Posts: 6,960
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Originally posted by Onen
This so dumb. Yes, we do.
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No we don't. Teachers aren't allowed to talk about their beliefs or religion in my school, I don't know what school you go to. We're there to learn not discuss our beliefs and what we think is right. Besides, homophobia is another form hatred. Fine you can have your opinion, but don't subject those around you to it. I think the kid deserved a punishment because he may have offended someone around him.
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
Posts: 71,871
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Originally posted by SwagLikeALegend
Yeah um we don't talk about our beliefs IN SCHOOL.
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Yes we do. We don't talk about religion in school, but we do talk about beliefs
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Member Since: 8/16/2011
Posts: 19,718
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If the kid wants to think it's wrong, let him think it's wrong. I can't with censorship going up in America. We have the right to say whatever we want (to a reasonable degree) and not have to worry about administrative repercussions. ESPECIALLY in this context. I mean he was just telling his friend that he believed homosexuality was wrong, not trying to spread propaganda against gays around the school. Leave the kid alone.
And for all ya'll saying "good", it's pretty disappointing that you believe others shouldn't be allowed to say whatever they want. It's always okay when it's not you, but ya'll would be the first to bitch. But I guess it must be cuz of all the ATRL warning points people get for the slightest disagreement.
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Member Since: 8/10/2010
Posts: 9,489
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Originally posted by SwagLikeALegend
No we don't. Teachers aren't allowed to talk about their beliefs or religion in my school, I don't know what school you go to. We're there to learn not discuss our beliefs and what we think is right. Besides, homophobia is another form hatred. Fine you can have your opinion, but don't subject those around you to it. I think the kid deserved a punishment because he may have offended someone around him.
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He may have offended someone by saying its wrong? And I dont know what school YOU go to, but where I am now we have open discussions about religon, sexuality, and other political topics in my sociology class. Noone was just OH so sensitive that they got mad when someone disagreed/ had a different belief than them. You are doing way too much. It's not that serious. The kid did nothing wrong.
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Member Since: 6/28/2009
Posts: 6,960
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Originally posted by RatedG²
Yes we do. We don't talk about religion in school, but we do talk about beliefs
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At my school we don't talk about abortion or gay marriage. My school even banned using the words "gay" or "retarded" in derogatory manner. What I'm trying to say is this kid may have offended a classmate around him.
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 5/28/2011
Posts: 39,615
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One more thing.... You don't have to think homosexuality is wrong because you're Christian, Catholic, etc, like the kid said.
Considering that many people pick and choose with the bible, no one's exactly forcing you to believe something is one way or another.
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Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla
...I'm not the only one who notices that this is exactly the opposite attitude that CaliforniaKing had before his ban right?
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YES!
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Member Since: 12/17/2010
Posts: 10,073
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You can't suspend someone for that
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 5/28/2011
Posts: 39,615
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Originally posted by Onen
He may have offended someone by saying its wrong? And I dont know what school YOU go to, but where I am now we have open discussions about religon, sexuality, and other political topics in my sociology class. Noone was just OH so sensitive that they got mad when someone disagreed/ had a different belief than them. You are doing way too much. It's not that serious. The kid did nothing wrong.
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TBH, to hear that someone thinks the way you are, who you are, your sexuality, is wrong is downright offensive. Don't say the kid didn't do anything wrong.
Freedom of speech exists, yes, but many things are offensive, really.
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
Posts: 71,871
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Originally posted by IfICannot Love♥
TBH, to hear that someone thinks the way you are, who you are, your sexuality, is wrong is downright offensive. Don't say the kid didn't do anything wrong.
Freedom of speech exists, yes, but many things are offensive, really.
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As long as you're not threatening a person, it doesn't warrant a suspension.
You can say that "Homosexuality is normal" and could offend someone who believes its wrong. Should someone be suspended for that?
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Member Since: 6/28/2009
Posts: 6,960
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Originally posted by Onen
He may have offended someone by saying its wrong? And I dont know what school YOU go to, but where I am now we have open discussions about religon, sexuality, and other political topics in my sociology class. Noone was just OH so sensitive that they got mad when someone disagreed/ had a different belief than them. You are doing way too much. It's not that serious. The kid did nothing wrong.
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I go to a public high school where teachers can't talk about their religion, students can't say "gay" in a derogatory manner, and my Euro History can't even lecture on some aspects of the Reformation. This was taking place in a German class, WHY are they discussing religion? What if I said something racist against African-Americans in class? Well according to you that wouldn't matter because I'm just expressing my beliefs right?
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Member Since: 8/10/2010
Posts: 9,489
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Originally posted by RatedG²
As long as you're not threatening a person, it doesn't warrant a suspension.
You can say that "Homosexuality is normal" and could offend someone who believes its wrong. Should someone be suspended for that?
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Exactly.
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Member Since: 6/28/2009
Posts: 6,960
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Originally posted by RatedG²
As long as you're not threatening a person, it doesn't warrant a suspension.
You can say that "Homosexuality is normal" and could offend someone who believes its wrong. Should someone be suspended for that?
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Again WHY are they discussing religion and sexuality in a German class?
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Banned
Member Since: 6/25/2011
Posts: 37,192
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Originally posted by RatedG²
As long as you're not threatening a person, it doesn't warrant a suspension.
You can say that "Homosexuality is normal" and could offend someone who believes its wrong. Should someone be suspended for that?
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That's obviously different if you take a moment to think about it.
Believing homosexuality is wrong is a BELIEF.
Being homosexual is part of your IDENTITY.
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 5/28/2011
Posts: 39,615
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Originally posted by RatedG²
As long as you're not threatening a person, it doesn't warrant a suspension.
You can say that "Homosexuality is normal" and could offend someone who believes its wrong. Should someone be suspended for that?
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I said it could be offensive. Did I say he deserved to be suspended?
He didn't deserve to be suspended, but I'm just saying, it can, and apparently was, offensive.
To believe something is wrong... that's believing. You can stop believing at your own will.
Homosexuality is you. It's your identity; it's who you are, and I'ma need receipts if you're gonna tell me it's something you can change at any will of your own or by anything.
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Member Since: 8/10/2010
Posts: 9,489
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Originally posted by SwagLikeALegend
I go to a public high school where teachers can't talk about their religion, students can't say "gay" in a derogatory manner, and my Euro History can't even lecture on some aspects of the Reformation. This was taking place in a German class, WHY are they discussing religion? What if I said something racist against African-Americans in class? Well according to you that wouldn't matter because I'm just expressing my beliefs right?
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Yep. It sure wouldnt. It happens all the time. I stand by my opinion, he did nothing wrong.
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
Posts: 71,871
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Originally posted by SwagLikeALegend
Again WHY are they discussing religion and sexuality in a German class?
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