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Discussion: Why Isn't STRONGER Stronger?
Member Since: 6/10/2011
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Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction
Gorl, if you truly listened to the (almost flawless) album, you'd know there really isn't a true ballad on Stronger.
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Breaking Your Own Heart.
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Member Since: 6/7/2011
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Originally posted by CriticalHit
I'm "offended" (if you want to call it that) because what you're saying is complete nonsense. I'll ask again, how does Einstein, for example, try to re-create Breakaway's magic in ANY way? What song does it sound like exactly?
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It's not nonsense, it's my opinion. I hear a lot of Breakaway on Stronger. Deal with it and stop trying to create a mountain out of a molehill.
It doesn't sound like any song specifically, per se, but it does sound like something that could fit perfectly on the Breakaway tracklist.
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Member Since: 9/22/2011
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Originally posted by KoreanDream
I think Florence wants to have huge success, too, and for her music (which she puts a lot of work into) to be appreciated. It's probably not her main concern, but I wouldn't say she isn't concerned with it.
I agree that fans shouldn't be concerned with that, though. I know I'm not.
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I read that she had the opportunity to record in the US and incorporate more hip-hop/R&B to appeal to American audiences, but opted to go with the sound she had started with and wanted to do, which was what Ceremonials was.
And also from some other interview:
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Adele's album 21 has performed extremely well in the US this year; would you like that sort of success with your album?
"I'm heading back to the US with this album at some point for sure. It's funny with Adele, the level of fame I have now means I can quite easily slip by in everyday life unnoticed. I don't really get hassled by the tabloids, which is a position I'd really like to keep. That huge success means you have to give up such a large amount of your life. I already feel like mine is planned out for the next two years, so I don't think I'd like to get anymore famous! That said, Adele's success was so unpredictable."
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But yeah, I think we agree
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Member Since: 7/3/2011
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Originally posted by North & South
Well it's already been certified Gold in the US with just one "horrible" single, lol. It's 74k away from 500k.
To put a little perspective-- 3 pop girls, same label, been in the business for a decade
Avril: around 300k in the US - with 3 singles
Britney: close to 700k(anyone know the exact #?) in the US - with 4 singles
Kelly: close to 500k - with 1 single
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let them talk while we silently outsell all of them.
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Member Since: 6/7/2011
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Originally posted by hazuki
Breaking Your Own Heart.
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Member Since: 6/10/2011
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Originally posted by KoreanDream
I think Florence wants to have huge success, too, and for her music (which she puts a lot of work into) to be appreciated. It's probably not her main concern, but I wouldn't say she isn't concerned with it.
I agree that fans shouldn't be concerned with that, though. I know I'm not.
Why are you both getting so offended? Breakaway is a great album, so even if I call Stronger a watered-down version of it, it's not a complete insult. t
And yes, I have given the album a listen, so we can get out of here with that "you haven't even listened and it's obvious" nonsense. Honestly, You Love Me, Einstein, and Let Me Down all scream attempts to re-create Breakaway's magic.
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You Love Me and Honestly sound nothing like songs on Breakaway. Their isnt one song on Breakaway that sounds like Honestly. You could make a discussion for You Love Me, but You Love Me is one of those tracks that she has done differently.
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Member Since: 6/7/2011
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Originally posted by WoozyFloozy
I read that she had the opportunity to record in the US and incorporate more hip-hop/R&B to appeal to American audiences, but opted to go with the sound she had started with and wanted to do, which was what Ceremonials was.
And also from some other interview:
But yeah, I think we agree
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I read that too, and I agree with you in that she probably doesn't want superstardom or much more fame. I do think she wants more recognition for the music, though.
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Member Since: 11/23/2011
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Originally posted by hazuki
Breaking Your Own Heart.
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Hmmm that song is one of the flaws. Just so...dull.
I'm such a flop stan sometimes.
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Member Since: 6/7/2011
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Originally posted by hazuki
You Love Me and Honestly sound nothing like songs on Breakaway. Their isnt one that sounds like Honestly on Breakaway.
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For Honestly to sound like it could fit on Breakaway it doesn't have to sound a lot like any song on Breakaway.
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Member Since: 5/10/2011
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Standing In Front of You is also a ballad. But seriously, I love Kelly and was very excited for her album but I was so disappointed because it was such a letdown from All I Ever Wanted, which I think is her best album.
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Member Since: 11/23/2011
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Originally posted by KoreanDream
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Am I supposed to be amused by this?
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Songs that sound like Breakaway Pt II are Honestly (Addicted's distant cousin), What Doesn't Kill You, Standing In Front of You, I Forgive You, & Alone.
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Member Since: 6/10/2011
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Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction
Hmmm that song is one of the flaws. Just so...dull.
I'm such a flop stan sometimes.
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Disagree. I think its one of the strongest tracks. Kelly's voice is just so emotional and passionate in that song. With the Raw guitar on that tracks makes it so great.
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Member Since: 11/26/2011
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Originally posted by KoreanDream
For Honestly to sound like it could fit on Breakaway it doesn't have to sound a lot like any song on Breakaway.
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LMAO, um, what???
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Member Since: 7/3/2011
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Originally posted by Pelvic Thrust
Standing In Front of You is also a ballad. But seriously, I love Kelly and was very excited for her album but I was so disappointed because it was such a letdown from All I Ever Wanted, which I think is her best album.
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All I Ever Wanted is her worst.
If people think Stronger is an overproduced mess, I wonder what they have to say about that album.
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Member Since: 11/23/2011
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Originally posted by Pelvic Thrust
Standing In Front of You is also a ballad. But seriously, I love Kelly and was very excited for her album but I was so disappointed because it was such a letdown from All I Ever Wanted, which I think is her best album.
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Member Since: 6/7/2011
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Originally posted by CriticalHit
LMAO, um, what???
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Einstein and Honestly, two you guys have had issues with me for calling similar to Breakaway, don't have to sound explicitly similar to any of the songs on Breakaway for them to be in the same vein of that album. If you burned a disc with Breakaway on it and included those two songs on the album, they wouldn't sound out of place. That is my point.
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Member Since: 11/23/2011
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Originally posted by KoreanDream
For Honestly to sound like it could fit on Breakaway it doesn't have to sound a lot like any song on Breakaway.
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...the attempt at shade failed with the unintelligible wording of this post. You tried though.
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Member Since: 7/3/2011
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Originally posted by KoreanDream
Einstein and Honestly, two you guys have had issues with me for calling similar to Breakaway, don't have to sound explicitly similar to any of the songs on Breakaway for them to be in the same vein of that album. If you burned a disc with Breakaway on it and included those two songs on the album, they wouldn't sound out of place. That is my point.
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...but they would.
Especially Einstein. wth are you on?
I'd understand Let Me Down or I Forgive You sounding like it's from Breakaway, but Einstein & Honestly? You must be getting your song titles mixed up sis.
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Member Since: 6/7/2011
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Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction
...the attempt at shade failed with the unintelligible wording of this post. You tried though.
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Originally posted by DejaVu
...but they would.
Especially Einstein. wth are you on?
I'd understand Let Me Down or I Forgive You sounding like it's from Breakaway, but Einstein & Honestly? You must be getting your song titles mixed up sis.
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I think that Stronger is a watered-down, lamer version of Breakaway.
Sorry if you disagree, but that's the conclusion I've reached after giving the album a chance. And yes, I've ****ing listened to it. That is my opinion. Deal with it, and move on.
Get off my back and sit. Good day.
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