The talent for dance has to be there in order to dance, and Beyonce just does not have it. As Janet will never be able to sing like Beyonce, Beyonce will never be able to dance like Janet.
Anyone who with a strong discipline, and a good sense of rhythm and coordination (Which Bey definitely has) has the potential to do Janet's moves justice.
Singing is more of a 'have it or you don't' kinda of skill. Janet no matter what lessons she takes couldn't reach the realm of virtuosity that Beyonce Sause her natural ability is just too limited. The gap between Beyonce and Janet as vocalists is much bigger than the gap between them as dancers for that reason.
I think she's a better performer because she can infuse both singing and dancing VERY well. I also her to be more versatile as a performer, as well as more stage presence.
Anyone who with a strong discipline, and a good sense of rhythm and coordination (Which Bey definitely has) has the potential to do Janet's moves justice.
Singing is more of a 'have it or you don't' kinda of skill. Janet no matter what lessons she takes couldn't reach the realm of virtuosity that Beyonce Sause her natural ability is just too limited. The gap between Beyonce and Janet as vocalists is much bigger than the gap between them as dancers for that reason.
I think she's a better performer because she can infuse both singing and dancing VERY well. I also her to be more versatile as a performer, as well as more stage presence.
Rhythm and coordination are only two aspects necessary to tackling RN. It requires a knowledge of street style choreography, which Beyonce does not have, and a strong foundation in technical dance, which Beyonce does not have. And just as singing is a natural skill, so is dancing. Just see Usher vs Chris.
Both Janet and Beyonce infuse singing and dancing. Beyonce is great at singing, but so-so at dancing. Janet is so-so at singing but great at dancing. But you have to understand there's more to performing than just those two talents. Janet's understanding of the aspects of dance allow her to translate that knowledge into creating cohesive story lines and visuals in a live setting (organization), something Beyonce hasn't quite mastered yet. Stage presence? I mean, come on.
As for who is more versatile? Clearly Janet, which overall comes as a result of Janet's catalog being more eclectic in sound and content.
Anyone who with a strong discipline, and a good sense of rhythm and coordination (Which Bey definitely has) has the potential to do Janet's moves justice.
Singing is more of a 'have it or you don't' kinda of skill. Janet no matter what lessons she takes couldn't reach the realm of virtuosity that Beyonce Sause her natural ability is just too limited. The gap between Beyonce and Janet as vocalists is much bigger than the gap between them as dancers for that reason.
I think she's a better performer because she can infuse both singing and dancing VERY well. I also her to be more versatile as a performer, as well as more stage presence.
No and no. Dancing is also a natural skill. Much like singing, anyone can take dancing lessons to get some ability. But if you don't have the natural gift of it, it won't matter. Just look at Madonna. Beyonce is not a natural dancer. She can dance to a beat and has rhythm, but she is not a dancer. Also, being a great performer requires more than just singing and dancing. The problem with most of you is that you are ignorant to Janet's career and only have a limited perspective of her abilities as a performer. Being a great performer, in the case of Janet and Beyonce also requires an effective visual component. Through her videos as well as her live performances, Janet is a storyteller. She guides the viewer from point A to point B to reach a final conclusion. There is a narrative. Each movement is telling a story. Beyoncé lacks that not only in her videos, but her live shows. Why? Because she isn't a visual artist. She is not a storyteller. Most of her dance moves serve no purpose other than just being dance moves.
No and no. Dancing is also a natural skill. Much like singing, anyone can take dancing lessons to get some ability. But if you don't have the natural gift of it, it won't matter. Just look at Madonna. Beyonce is not a natural dancer. She can dance to a beat and has rhythm, but she is not a dancer. Also, being a great performer requires more than just singing and dancing. The problem with most of you is that you are ignorant to Janet's career and only have a limited perspective of her abilities as a performer. Being a great performer, in the case of Janet and Beyonce also requires an effective visual component. Through her videos as well as her live performances, Janet is a storyteller. She guides the viewer from point A to point B to reach a final conclusion. There is a narrative. Each movement is telling a story. Beyoncé lacks that not only in her videos, but her live shoes. Why? Because she isn't a visual artist. She is not a storyteller. Most of her dance moves serve no purpose other than just being dance moves.
And this is exactly why she's not a true dancer. She's just a singer who dances. Aside from "Single Ladies", her dancing is almost never the centerpiece of the performance. It's used to complement the overall progression of a performance. This, among other aspects, is one of the defining factors in artists with true dance talent and those without it.
Rhythm and coordination are only two aspects necessary to tackling RN. It requires a knowledge of street style choreography, which Beyonce does not have, and a strong foundation in technical dance, which Beyonce does not have. And just as singing is a natural skill, so is dancing. Just see Usher vs Chris.
She does have knowledge of street style choregraphy (Ring the Alarm) and her dancing can technical (Run the World)
I think you're overestimating the ability do the Rhythm Nation dance. It's not rocket science to learn or do. Anyone with a competent dancing ability can learn it and do it justice if they work hard enough. Hell Tamar, who isn't nearly as good of a dancer as Bey got rave reviews for her performance of it just a few months so imagine if Bey trained and worked on it.
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Both Janet and Beyonce infuse singing and dancing
Except Bey is far better at it hence why she's far more known for it.
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But you have to understand there's more to performing than just those two talents.
Agreed. I also that Janet definitely better at telling a story in her performances than Bey is, but I wouldn't value that over Bey's ability to deliver vocals of a virtuoso in high energy performances, which is something that is extremely unique to her. Not to mention the way she's able to connect with her audience and how shows more freedom and spontaneity in comparison to Janet
No and no. Dancing is also a natural skill. Much like singing, anyone can take dancing lessons to get some ability. But if you don't have the natural gift of it, it won't matter. Just look at Madonna. Beyonce is not a natural dancer. She can dance to a beat and has rhythm, but she is not a dancer. Also, being a great performer requires more than just singing and dancing. The problem with most of you is that you are ignorant to Janet's career and only have a limited perspective of her abilities as a performer. Being a great performer, in the case of Janet and Beyonce also requires an effective visual component. Through her videos as well as her live performances, Janet is a storyteller. She guides the viewer from point A to point B to reach a final conclusion. There is a narrative. Each movement is telling a story. Beyoncé lacks that not only in her videos, but her live shows. Why? Because she isn't a visual artist. She is not a storyteller. Most of her dance moves serve no purpose other than just being dance moves.
I'm very familiar with Janet's performances. She's probably my 2nd favorite female performer after Bey, Thanks. It's great and all that Janet is a great at telling story. Her 'What About' performances in particular are some of my favorites. I personally just don't value that over Bey's ability to take a studio version of a song and transform it to another level with her live vocals. You can criticize Bey's dancing all you want but she makes even the simplest dance moves look amazing and that's what a performer should do. She's still able to give show stopping performances with her dancing abilities. (See Single Ladies @ The VMA's)
No and no. Dancing is also a natural skill. Much like singing, anyone can take dancing lessons to get some ability. But if you don't have the natural gift of it, it won't matter. Just look at Madonna. Beyonce is not a natural dancer. She can dance to a beat and has rhythm, but she is not a dancer. Also, being a great performer requires more than just singing and dancing. The problem with most of you is that you are ignorant to Janet's career and only have a limited perspective of her abilities as a performer. Being a great performer, in the case of Janet and Beyonce also requires an effective visual component. Through her videos as well as her live performances, Janet is a storyteller. She guides the viewer from point A to point B to reach a final conclusion. There is a narrative. Each movement is telling a story. Beyoncé lacks that not only in her videos, but her live shows. Why? Because she isn't a visual artist. She is not a storyteller. Most of her dance moves serve no purpose other than just being dance moves.
If this isn't a visual performance, I don't know what is:
Tbh, I can't recall Janet creating a performance as visually spectacular as this performance. She's a great dancer and I love how she creates images through her dancing, but this RTW performance was next level.
She does have knowledge of street style choregraphy (Ring the Alarm) and her dancing can technical (Run the World)
I think you're overestimating the ability do the Rhythm Nation dance. It's not rocket science to learn or do. Anyone with a competent dancing ability can learn it and do it justice if they work hard enough. Hell Tamar, who isn't nearly as good of a dancer as Bey got rave reviews for her performance of it just a few months so imagine if Bey trained and worked on it.
Except Bey is far better at it hence why she's far more known for it.
Agreed. I also that Janet definitely better at telling a story in her performances than Bey is, but I wouldn't value that over Bey's ability to deliver vocals of a virtuoso in high energy performances, which is something that is extremely unique to her. Not to mention the way she's able to connect with her audience and how shows more freedom and spontaneity in comparison to Janet
RTA isn't street style, and RTW isn't technical. Beyonce's most technical routine is SL. And being able to do technical choreography doesn't mean you have knowledge of technical dance.
Tamar did RN and got rave reviews, yes. However they also omitted the most intricate details of the routine (the verses and the breakdown), all while Tamar visibly lacking the staccato-like movement and razor sharp precision Janet had. Several of Janet's dancers have expressed the difficulty of the routine, and this was coming from dancers with a great natural gift of dance. So, no, it's not an easy routine.
Beyonce is known for singing and dancing because ppl shove it down our throats and say it over and over. She has a bad habit of over dancing practically everything, and people mistake that for "slaying". But in reality, her dancing is mediocre. She's no better than Britney Spears.
And you mentioned versatility, but you keep talking about just singing. Where else is the versatility? One of the differences here is Beyonce gets on stage and performs her voice. Janet gets on stage and showcases her talent thru song, dance, and visuals all wrapped in flawless organization.
And who made Janet any kind of measuring point? Them tired 1986 borrowed from Paula Abdul dance moves she can barely pull off these days. Don't hold a candle too much superior and prior to bey biggest black female touring force Tina Turner.
I never saw the Janet hype. This isn't a street dance battle or a step up movie recital. Without vocals to match you might as well be a back up dancer.
Nobody got time for all that whispering and mumbling while jumping around the stage as if you were in a Zumba class.