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Discussion: ATRL Great Debates Thread | Is America Racist?
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I passively believe.
Not going to change how I live over it though, and imo organized religion is for stupid people.
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Member Since: 5/19/2012
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Originally posted by beautiful player
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Have you ever considered the fact that the big bang was caused by God? How did these stars get there?
You guys use the logic "there's no proof so it didn't happen"
That also applies for the big bang theory. There is no proof that it happened, that's why it's a theory.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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No, I don't believe in God. I don't judge anyone who does (unless they use a deity/religion as an excuse to be bigoted), but I honestly can't understand why they do so. It doesn't make sense to me, but each to their own.
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Member Since: 7/23/2010
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Originally posted by OnikaSlays
Yes. I do have my skeptics sometimes though.
Not to bash atheists, but the whole "big bang" thing doesn't make sense. How can some explosion create things so perfectly constructed. Like I'm so sure we got beating hearts, opposable thumbs, and sexual organs all because of some explosion.
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The Big Bang and even the theory of evolution are not inherently atheistic. In fact, the proponent of the Big Bang theory was a Catholic priest who saw no real conflict between his theory and his faith. And even Charles Darwin has said evolution does not necessarily imply atheism. These theories only address the causes and contexts of their respective processes, but they do not and cannot address the initiator of those processes, if there is any, leaving open for both materialistic and theistic explanations.
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I know the atheists are gonna drag me for being "delusional" but God wants us to have faith in him. He's trying to see who really belongs in Heaven and who's willing to believe in him with no proof of his existence. Now think about it, if there was proof that God was real almost everyone would follow his rules and that defeats the whole purpose of Hell. Satan, who is the father of lies, is feeding us this trash about evolution and the big bang. He wants us to believe there is no God and his plan is starting to work. Everyday I see more and more people becoming atheists because of this and it's sad.
Now you can reply with smilies and "sis go get some air" but I honestly don't care and this is what I believe is going on.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by OnikaSlays
Have you ever considered the fact that the big bang was caused by God? How did these stars get there?
You guys use the logic "there's no proof so it didn't happen"
That also applies for the big bang theory. There is no proof that it happened, that's why it's a theory.
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How do you explain cosmic microwave background radiation? Cosmic expansion; Hubble's Law? Nucleosynthesis? There is so much evidence that points towards the "Big Bang".
Like, have you ever taken a Physics class?
"How did these stars get there?" -- It would literally take you 5 minutes on damn Google to get this answer. Ignorance ain't a cute look.
Also, I'm not sure you understand what "theory" means:
theory
ˈθɪəri/
noun
a system of ideas intended to explain something
There's so much evidence out there. Please, please pick up a Physics textbook. It'll do both of us a huge favour.
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Member Since: 8/17/2012
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Originally posted by OnikaSlays
Have you ever considered the fact that the big bang was caused by God? How did these stars get there?
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This logic is so incredibly flawed. Just because you may not know why something exists doesn't just mean you can just slap on any convoluted explanation you want and claim that it's definitively true just because nobody can prove it's wrong. In that case, why can't I assume that the Big Bang was caused by aliens? Or a giant purple unicorn that watches over the universe? Using this logic, I could say that maybe Lady Gaga's spirit transcends all space and time and SHE was the one who caused the Big Bang, and you should consider that.
Sure, maybe the Big Bang WAS caused by God, but my point is that's a completely baseless consideration that's just as valid as any other baseless consideration my imagination can come up with.
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Member Since: 5/19/2012
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Originally posted by beautiful player
How do you explain cosmic microwave background radiation? Cosmic expansion; Hubble's Law? Nucleosynthesis? There is so much evidence that points towards the "Big Bang".
Like, have you ever taken a Physics class?
"How did these stars get there?" -- It would literally take you 5 minutes on damn Google to get this answer. Ignorance ain't a cute look.
Also, I'm not sure you understand what "theory" means:
theory
ˈθɪəri/
noun
a system of ideas intended to explain something
There's so much evidence out there. Please, please pick up a Physics textbook. It'll do both of us a huge favour.
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Sis. I don't believe in science, astronomy, and physics at all. Not because I don't understand it, because it's just educated guesses and no physical proof.
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Originally posted by OnikaSlays
Sis. I don't believe in science, astronomy, and physics at all. Not because I don't understand it, because it's just educated guesses and no physical proof.
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No physical proof?
That's a damn lie, and you know it.
Get out.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by OnikaSlays
Sis. I don't believe in science, astronomy, and physics at all. Not because I don't understand it, because it's just educated guesses and no physical proof.
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But there's physical proof of everything that's written in the Bible?
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Member Since: 5/19/2012
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Originally posted by beautiful player
No physical proof?
That's a damn lie, and you know it.
Get out.
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Let's use the Sun's interior as an example. We have the core, radiative zone, and convective zone. Now they can easily tell us that this is what the sun consists of, but how do they know? They've never been to the sun or seen the inside, that's an educated guess.
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Originally posted by OnikaSlays
Let's use the Sun's interior as an example. We have the core, radiative zone, and convective zone. Now they can easily tell us that this is what the sun consists of, but how do they know. They've never been to the sun or seen the inside, that's an educated guess?
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Have you ever heard of emission and absorption spectra? These aren't guesses, sis.
You can read up on it here, if you're willing... http://sunearthday.nasa.gov/2006/mat...abook_ver2.pdf
But ignorance is bliss, I guess?
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I really hate it when religious people go all "NO PROOF!!!" when it comes to science but they have no problem believing a book claiming that a man parted the red ****ing sea. Like...
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Originally posted by beautiful player
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That still gives me no proof that what's in the Sun's interior is what we've been learning in school
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Originally posted by Sasha.
I really hate it when religious people go all "NO PROOF!!!" when it comes to science but they have no problem believing a book claiming that a man parted the red ****ing sea. Like...
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Like an explosion is any more believable
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Originally posted by OnikaSlays
Sis. I don't believe in science, astronomy, and physics at all. Not because I don't understand it, because it's just educated guesses and no physical proof.
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No, I do not. I find it completely twisted that there is supposedly an all-seeing, all-knowing, and all-powerful deity who basically watches us like he's playing the Sims, without actually doing anything.
"I created the Earth in 7 days, so...you can spend the rest of eternity worshiping me, okay thanks!" is basically the gist of it. Sounds a bit unfair if you ask me.
Also, the whole idea of bad things happening to good people being a test...that's sadistic.
"Wow, you spend 10 hours every day doing charity, working with the ill and homeless, donate lots of money to great causes, and are an overall amazing person...your mom is going to get cancer, your dad's going to get killed in a car crash, and both of your children are going to die before their third birthday. Good news is you might get to Heaven if you believe in me. Hehe you won't know if it's actually there until you're dead, though!"
People just pass that off as "tests of faith"? Psh if any normal person tried doing a "test of faith" on someone like that, it wouldn't be retained.
So TL;DR: No, I don't. I personally believe it's a belief for scared people founded in fear and enforced by fear. I don't have a problem with religious people (as long as they don't try to @ me with the "do you believe?" question; I never talk about religion unless it's brought up.), but the whole idea of religion is so disturbing to me that I take more comfort in the thought of nothingness coming after death then what religion will say will happen to me for reasons beyond my control.
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The casting aside of centuries of academia. No.
It essentially comes down to blind faith. There is no proof of the existence of God, and everything points to major religions simply being extremely effective mind prisons for the poor on a global scale. If God is the answer to everything, and a person's faith is robust, they tend to stop questioning things and just go along with the status quo, as it's all in "God's will", and "his" plan. That was extremely useful for the powers of that time.
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Member Since: 8/4/2012
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Originally posted by Sasha.
I really hate it when religious people go all "NO PROOF!!!" when it comes to science but they have no problem believing a book claiming that a man parted the red ****ing sea. Like...
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I have proof there is a God which is Jesus. The Holy Spirit. I experienced his presence inside of me.
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