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Discussion: Your shampoo might be linked to cancer
Member Since: 8/31/2012
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Originally posted by Fruity
The thing is that is a vast compromise for your standard of living. Why would you do that? Life is too short. You end up not living your life to the fullest if you sacrifice huge amounts of your disposable income simply to purchase these gimicky "natural" products.
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Like other people have said, if there is more general interest in natural or organic products, the big corporations will make them, and they will be mass market and CHEAP.
Look at how quickly big brands like Kellogs jumped onto GMO-free after the anti-GMO movement in Cali 
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Member Since: 2/2/2012
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Originally posted by Guernica
People are such hypochondriacs these days. Every time you go outside, you're being exposed to millions of potentially harmful germs and bacteria. You can't live your life in constant fear like that, you'll end up locking yourself away in an empty windowless room for the rest of your life  |
It's not fear, but who in their right mind would make a conscious choice of choosing products that are proved to cause cancer, depression, hair loss, tumors, strip your skin from proteins, heart, liver and kidney disease?
Of course you will be exposed to carcinogenics in one way or the other, but if shelving a couple of bucks more will help me significantly reduce the number that I put into my body, I'd glady will.
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Member Since: 4/13/2011
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Originally posted by BTrisc
This. Just like "fresh fruits and vegetables are so expensive, all I can afford is McDonald's!!!"
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The difference is, you can eat healthily without wasting your money. People who use the fast food arguments are just ignorant of how to actually eat well and/or lazy.
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Member Since: 8/1/2012
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Originally posted by Nippy'sReceipts
Good thing I never brushed my teeth or washed my hair before. I'm in the clear.
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Member Since: 2/2/2012
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Originally posted by Fruity
The difference is, you can eat healthily without wasting your money. People who use the fast food arguments are just ignorant of how to actually eat well and/or lazy.
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Not going bald and not dying before I have too is definitely not 'wasting money' in my book 
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Guys, shampoos and conditioners existed hundreds of years ago too before big fancy companies poured toxic chemicals into them to make them profitable and foamy 
Our ancestors mashed and pulverized fruits/herbs to clean their hairs  If you think the organic stuff is too expensive, you could always make some from scratch with a blender and some simple ingredients 
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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You guys should check out Lush, they do natural shampoos among a lot of other things. One of my favourite stores
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Yawn. Everything give us cancer.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by CakeLike
You guys should check out Lush, they do natural shampoos among a lot of other things. One of my favourite stores
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Queen Lush is bae. 
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Member Since: 4/13/2011
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Originally posted by TikiMiss
Like other people have said, if there is more general interest in natural or organic products, the big corporations will make them, and they will be mass market and CHEAP.
Look at how quickly big brands like Kellogs jumped onto GMO-free after the anti-GMO movement in Cali |
I agree with that, fair enough. Suppliers react to demand, yeh.
I think the point about the market for shampoo though, is that the SLS/SLES ingredient is what makes your shampoo actually FOAM and thoroughly wash your hair of oil. (By the way I know this is actually not healthy for your hair, that is the point of a conditioner - to replenish oils to your hair). The problem is, I don't think the average consumer actually wants to rid shampoos of this ingredient. They would rather just use the product, and take the side effect.
It's like how I make the conscious decision to only drink diet fizzy drinks. I know perfectly well about the studies based around the dangers of artificial sweeteners. But Im not going to make the sacrifice - I'd much rather drink diet drinks and consume 500 more calories elsewhere in my diet.
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I always rinse my mouth thoroughly after I brush my teeth, same with my hair, isn't that enough at the end?
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Member Since: 8/31/2012
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Originally posted by Fruity
I agree with that, fair enough. Suppliers react to demand, yeh.
I think the point about the market for shampoo though, is that the SLS/SLES ingredient is what makes your shampoo actually FOAM and thoroughly wash your hair of oil. (By the way I know this is actually not healthy for your hair, that is the point of a conditioner - to replenish oils to your hair). The problem is, I don't think the average consumer actually wants to rid shampoos of this ingredient. They would rather just use the product, and take the side effect.
It's like how I make the conscious decision to only drink diet fizzy drinks. I know perfectly well about the studies based around the dangers of artificial sweeteners. But Im not going to make the sacrifice - I'd much rather drink diet drinks and consume 500 more calories elsewhere in my diet.
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 but you're right, I guess everyone has their own prerogative.
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Member Since: 2/2/2012
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Originally posted by Fruity
I agree with that, fair enough. Suppliers react to demand, yeh.
I think the point about the market for shampoo though, is that the SLS/SLES ingredient is what makes your shampoo actually FOAM and thoroughly wash your hair of oil. (By the way I know this is actually not healthy for your hair, that is the point of a conditioner - to replenish oils to your hair). The problem is, I don't think the average consumer actually wants to rid shampoos of this ingredient. They would rather just use the product, and take the side effect.
It's like how I make the conscious decision to only drink diet fizzy drinks. I know perfectly well about the studies based around the dangers of artificial sweeteners. But Im not going to make the sacrifice - I'd much rather drink diet drinks and consume 500 more calories elsewhere in my diet.
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That's you, but everyday more and more people start care enough about their health and physical appearance to make conscious healthier choices. Both sides are respectable, but it's nice to have a growing side of the balance towards the healthy side.
It's not even as expensive as most of the opposers make it seem, you can find healthier alternatives for almost everything with as little as a 10-15% increased price. Like another poster said, for some of us it makes sense to sacrifice a little of the not-really-needed things we spend on, to take more care of our health and well-being.
Since in general, being healthier really does impact positively in all aspects of your life, including your performance and personal realtionships. 
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Member Since: 4/13/2011
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Originally posted by Swag
Not going bald and not dying before I have too is definitely not 'wasting money' in my book |
Well that's your life choice and I'm not going to tell you how to spend your money. But as far as I'm concerned, the age you go bald is pretty much dependent on your genetics... Some men start balding before they hit 20. I know 2 or 3 people my age who are already experiencing it, and I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with the shampoo they are using Conversely, both my dad and uncle are approaching 60 with a full head of hair and not even grey.
As for dying earlier, I just personally believe you are going to die of something anyway so... I understand the logic behind limiting your exposure to cancer-inducing products, but personally, I think people who do that are adversely affecting their quality of life. It makes me sad that people worry so much about living so long. That's not really the point of living, the point is to live WELL, not long.
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Sebastian Drench has Ammonium Laureth Sulfate, is that safe? That's what I use.
I don't really care either way but just another reason to stick with salon brands 
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Member Since: 9/3/2011
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Umm wait, the American Cancer Society said SLS and SLES aren't carcinogens 
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I've been using shampoo for 20 years and so far so good.
I'm not even going to start worrying about this otherwise I'll end up being paranoid about everything, like some. 
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Member Since: 2/2/2012
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Originally posted by Haus
Sebastian Drench has Ammonium Laureth Sulfate, is that safe? That's what I use.
I don't really care either way but just another reason to stick with salon brands |
Less foamy, still as dangerous
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Ammonium lauryl sulfate, or ALS, is similar to SLS and poses similar risks.
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http://www.livestrong.com/article/17...auryl-sulfate/
The best alternative so far is Sodium Methyl Cocoyl Taurate or 100% natural products.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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I use all kind of stuff that some studies call them...dangerous (shampoo's, brushteeth, colas xD) in every single day of my life. I'm still healthy, and i never got some kind of sickness. The secret is: variate all kind of products, and don't abuse them. Life's 2 short, so...never forbidden the things that makes u feel good.
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Member Since: 1/11/2012
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Wow, that's scary! Maybe as more awareness is brought to the matter, more alternatives will start to pop up. However...
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scientific research has proved that long-term oral exposure increased tumor appearances in both humans and rats.
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... it's disgusting that they've used animal testing for the study.
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