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Chart Listings: Billboard Charts (April 10-17, 2016)
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Originally posted by iHype.
Him comparing an album released in 2005 sale climate, put on iTunes, physically available, with a #1 hit backing it, and promotion to an album in 2016 sales climate only available on his site after being downloaded illegally for 2 months.
The level of delusion on this site sometimes. Bless.
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Yeezus came out in 2005 now?
I'm living for this backpedaling and anger after you spent so long trying to drag ANTI, though.
And his album is regularly getting reworked, see: the week old lead single, and he did SNL. To drop almost 300k in pure sales and over 230k in album equivalents is just
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Originally posted by alexanderao
We're going to be saying this in a few weeks, just replace "Pablo" with "Views From The 6" and "Tidal" with "Apple Music."
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Hopefully the release won't be anywhere near as much of a mess as the Pablo one.
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Adele down to #9, what's good Adele and Columbia?
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You certainly did compare TLOP to his album from 2005.
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Originally posted by Eternium
The College Dropout - 441k
Late Registration - 860k
Graduation - 957k
808s & Heartbreaks - 450k
MBDTF - 496k
Watch The Throne - 436k
Cruel Summer - 205k
Yeezus - 327k
TLOP - 28k
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Or you somehow meant to compare it only to Yeezus, but accidentally posted 7 other albums?
This album is a #1 hit, a success. It broke records, and has been a historical moment in a new era for the music industry.
If you think it was a 'bomb', you're 1. out of touch with the music industry 2. have no realistic idea on how this was expected to perform.
But then again, when you're comparing his albums from as far back as 2004 to this then yeah the failure of being realistic is kinda undeniable.
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The fact that is #1 because of streams is ugly but 99m is impressive so I guess it cancels the ugliness of it.
I mean, the album has been out for two months and I think everyone who would've been interested in it when it got released would've listened to ir already yet it got 99 million streams this week, that talks about the weight and importance Kanye's name holds.
Congrats on another number 1!
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Oh, but wait. I just realized, the misogyny is real. Weeks ago, Rihanna got dragged for the amount of streams she had by the same people who are now posting "Legend"; "King" etc..
I just..
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That's amazing!! Congrats Ye
Such a cool record to hold.
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I posted his career opening weeks showing that he always had insane first weeks till now. You're so mad despite doing this for every artist
And why you're focused on 2004/2005 is a mystery to me when his entire album career is posted there. Let me help you: "Yeezus (2013; not 2005)." Does that make it clearer?
28k pure sales is bad for a studio album. After SNL and a marriage to the biggest celebrity this decade, there's no excuse for an album that's been up for pre-order for six (?) weeks to pull so few copies, especially when hip-hop artists are known for high first week sales. Didn't Jay-Z sell 500k+ pure sales after giving out a million free copies? I believe I remember you posting that in ANTI threads.
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Originally posted by ForeverNow90
Oh, but wait. I just realized, the misogyny is real. Weeks ago, Rihanna got dragged for the amount of streams she had by the same people who are now posting "Legend"; "King" etc..
I just..
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Anti was available on all platforms.
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Talent won once again.
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Originally posted by Eternium
I posted his career opening weeks showing that he always had insane first weeks till now. You're so mad despite doing this for every artist
And why you're focused on 2004/2005 is a mystery to me when his entire album career is posted there. Let me help you: "Yeezus (2013; not 2005)." Does that make it clearer?
28k pure sales is bad for a studio album. After SNL and a marriage to the biggest celebrity this decade, there's no excuse for an album that's been up for pre-order for six (?) weeks to pull so few copies, especially when hip-hop artists are known for high first week sales. Didn't Jay-Z sell 500k+ pure sales after giving out a million free copies? I believe I remember you posting that in ANTI threads.
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"I posted his career opening weeks showing that he always had insane first weeks till now."
So... you were comparing his 2004 and 2005 sales to now, as I said.
28K isn't bad for a digital download only his site, and two months after the album has been online.
Yes, Jay-Z sold 500K with physical copies, iTunes copies, a hit single, and not having the album out online for two months.
Compare an album with the same situation as TLOP, and if you can't, hush and congratulate for the #1.
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Originally posted by SebaMonster
Anti was available on all platforms.
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! What don't the girls get.
If ANTI was available for illegal download for two months then she only sold it on her site, nobody would be dragging her sales.
The situation isn't really comparable nor draggable.
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Originally posted by Eternium
I posted his career opening weeks showing that he always had insane first weeks till now. You're so mad despite doing this for every artist
And why you're focused on 2004/2005 is a mystery to me when his entire album career is posted there. Let me help you: "Yeezus (2013; not 2005)." Does that make it clearer?
28k pure sales is bad for a studio album. After SNL and a marriage to the biggest celebrity this decade, there's no excuse for an album that's been up for pre-order for six (?) weeks to pull so few copies, especially when hip-hop artists are known for high first week sales. Didn't Jay-Z sell 500k+ pure sales after giving out a million free copies? I believe I remember you posting that in ANTI threads.
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You do realize that Kanye's album is only available on his site and on Tidal, right? The Jay-Z comparison makes no sense.
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Originally posted by Eternium
I posted his career opening weeks showing that he always had insane first weeks till now. You're so mad despite doing this for every artist
And why you're focused on 2004/2005 is a mystery to me when his entire album career is posted there. Let me help you: "Yeezus (2013; not 2005)." Does that make it clearer?
28k pure sales is bad for a studio album. After SNL and a marriage to the biggest celebrity this decade, there's no excuse for an album that's been up for pre-order for six (?) weeks to pull so few copies, especially when hip-hop artists are known for high first week sales. Didn't Jay-Z sell 500k+ pure sales after giving out a million free copies? I believe I remember you posting that in ANTI threads.
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You do realize that it very likely would have done 200k+ with a release to iTunes and other retailers?
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Originally posted by SebaMonster
Anti was available on all platforms.
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Rihanna still did 124k despite never having strong opening weeks, and 166k album equivalents.
Kanye came off the back of a 327k debut, did an SNL promo slot, had six weeks of pre-orders and did 28k first week album sales and 94k album equivalents. He even bundled his albums with event tickets. This is not a passable total, despite the streaming being impressive.
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Tragic.
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Purpose steady
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Originally posted by Eternium
Rihanna still did 124k despite never having strong opening weeks, and 166k album equivalents.
Kanye came off the back of a 327k debut, did an SNL promo slot, had six weeks of pre-orders and did 28k first week album sales and 94k album equivalents. He even bundled his albums with event tickets. This is not a passable total, despite the streaming being impressive.
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his album was released in february tho and it was literally not avabile on itunes
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Member Since: 6/2/2012
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Originally posted by Eternium
Rihanna still did 124k despite never having strong opening weeks, and 166k album equivalents.
Kanye came off the back of a 327k debut, did an SNL promo slot, had six weeks of pre-orders and did 28k first week album sales and 94k album equivalents. He even bundled his albums with event tickets. This is not a passable total, despite the streaming being impressive.
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Again, Kanye's album was only available on his site and on Tidal. You keep igonoring this point.
Considering the huge streaming it's pretty safe to say it would've had decent sales if it were on all platforms. You don't randomly get 99M streams if no one cares.
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Member Since: 9/9/2012
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Quote:
Originally posted by Eternium
Rihanna still did 124k despite never having strong opening weeks, and 166k album equivalents.
Kanye came off the back of a 327k debut, did an SNL promo slot, had six weeks of pre-orders and did 28k first week album sales and 94k album equivalents. He even bundled his albums with event tickets. This is not a passable total, despite the streaming being impressive.
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ANTI:
- Album never was online for illegal download before put on sale. (TLOP was out for illegal downloads TWO months)
- Had a hit single with a radio deal preceding album release. (TLOP has had no charting songs)
- iTunes sales. (TLOP isn't on iTunes)
Like I'm really trying to figure out why you think these comparisons are logical enough to post with confidence.
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