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Chart Listings: FULL All-Time Hot 100(55 Year Anniversary Special)
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Originally posted by umichgrad07
I'm thinking sometime between 2006-2008.
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Guys, I'm a bit confused on some things
I was bored and did some number totals for some of these songs in question. For example, if you were to add up all of Maroon 5's "One More Night" points (using the inverse point system), it ends up with 3,314 points. However, when I did points for "TiK ToK," I ended up with 3,241 points.
By this numerical logic, TiK ToK missed out of the chart, but I'm almost certain that TiK ToK has a chance in appearing in this list, no?
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Oh My God, and people say One More Night is laughable, God
Wow, cultural impact for Tik Tok remains but.. I don't know.. Please try with "Firework" please
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Quote:
Originally posted by umichgrad07
I'm thinking sometime between 2006-2008.
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Guys, I'm a bit confused on some things
I was bored and did some number totals for some of these songs in question. For example, if you were to add up all of Maroon 5's "One More Night" points (using the inverse point system), it ends up with 3,314 points. However, when I did points for "TiK ToK," I ended up with 3,241 points.
By this numerical logic, TiK ToK missed out of the chart, but I'm almost certain that TiK ToK has a chance in appearing in this list, no?
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Remember that certain eras are weighted differently according to the OP. When "Tik Tok" charted streaming wasn't included so maybe songs since March of 2012 are weighted differently.
Or maybe Need You Now which spent 60 weeks on the chart will make it instead like another #2 country songs in the all-time chart (You're Still The One, How Do I Live).
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Quote:
Originally posted by umichgrad07
I'm thinking sometime between 2006-2008.
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Guys, I'm a bit confused on some things
I was bored and did some number totals for some of these songs in question. For example, if you were to add up all of Maroon 5's "One More Night" points (using the inverse point system), it ends up with 3,314 points. However, when I did points for "TiK ToK," I ended up with 3,241 points.
By this numerical logic, TiK ToK missed out of the chart, but I'm almost certain that TiK ToK has a chance in appearing in this list, no?
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If TiK ToK does make it, it's probably because they qualified the point-system, that is, they didn't really count the whole chart run, just the weeks they were in a specific range (like Top 40 or Top 20 or Top 10.)
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People is understimating "Need You Now"'s sucess, its impact
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Originally posted by Ger-55
Well, you already said it.. Streaming is a REAL component to derteminate popularity. One More Night was huge, I meam stop my friend, it sepent 42 weeks, the song waas impressively one of the most sucessful of this decade; yep, Maroon 5 did it It's a well deserved position
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I guess you're right. Streaming helped it A LOT. If it weren't for streaming.... It wouldn't have flopped, but it would have been a single that peaked with 200 million AI and barely sold 3 million
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Originally posted by boodytay
I guess you're right. Streaming helped it A LOT. If it weren't for streaming.... It wouldn't have flopped, but it would have been a single that peaked with 200 million AI and barely sold 3 million
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My friend, One More Night already has sold +4M, like 4.3M if I'm not mistaken, people needed that smash to happen
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An explanation on how the 50th anniversary (2008) chart was compiled:
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The "50th Anniversary" chart is based on actual performance on the weekly Billboard Hot 100. The artist chart utilizes the same methodology, with weighted points applied to all titles charted by each artist during that 50-year span. They are ranked based on an inverse point system, with weeks at number one earning the greatest value and weeks at number one hundred earning the least.
Hot 100's 50th Anniversary award relative points for every week that a title spent on the chart, regardless of rank. For the Hot 100's 50th Anniversary, Billboard's charts department ensured a more balanced representation of hits from all 50 years, by analyzing the length of chart runs in earlier decades, as well as the average weeks that titles spent in the top 10 and at number one. Weights for earlier spans were then formulated, to compensate for the shorter chart runs that titles experienced before the 1991 conversion to precise and objective sales and radio data from Nielsen Music.
Prior to December 1998, songs did not appear on the Billboard Hot 100 until a retail single became available (which, incidentally, is why hits like Led Zeppelin's "Stairway to Heaven" and No Doubt's "Don't Speak" never appeared on the Hot 100). In earlier years, retail singles came to market fairly early in a song's life-usually shortly after, or even before, a song came to radio.
But, during the 1990s, when labels would strategize number-one chart bows by significant hits, the retail release of some priority singles were withheld until radio audience reached maximum levels. Although some of these songs spent significant numbers of weeks at number one or in the top ten, the delay of the sales component ultimately shortened the spans these songs would spend on the chart. With the new methodology rewarding points for a song's entire chart run, rather than confining points to weeks spent in the top ten, the shorter chart lives recorded by the songs that debuted at number one impact their all-time standings.
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Interesting
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Here's a look at a few songs I've done (obviously, the scores are unweighted). I threw in a few older songs just for comparison purposes. The number in parentheses is the # of weeks in spent on the chart.
SONG TOTAL POINTS
I'M YOURS (76): 5433
PARTY ROCK ANTHEM (68): 5351
ROLLING IN THE DEEP (65): 4958
NEED YOU NOW (60): 4613
SOMEBODY THAT I USED TO KNOW (59): 4589
I GOTTA FEELING (56): 4487
CALL ME MAYBE (50): 4161
HO HEY (58): 4123
HEY, SOUL SISTER (54): 4114
JUST THE WAY YOU ARE (48): 3950
BIG GIRLS DON'T CRY (48): 3930
SOME NIGHTS (56): 3929
DYNAMITE (47): 3845
F**K YOU! (48): 3824
YEAH! (45): 3817
USE SOMEBODY (57): 3782
LIGHTS (57): 3620
JUST DANCE (49): 3567
WE FOUND LOVE (41): 3554
WE BELONG TOGETHER (43): 3547
IF I DIE YOUNG (53): 3518
SEXY & I KNOW IT (42): 3447
ONE MORE NIGHT (42): 3314
WE ARE YOUNG (42): 3314
FIREWORK (39): 3286
TIK TOK (38): 3241
POKER FACE (40): 3122
SOMEONE LIKE YOU (39): 3096
BOOM BOOM POW (33): 2820
GRENADE (36): 2778
SET FIRE TO THE RAIN (43): 2776
PAYPHONE (31): 2744
BAD ROMANCE (34): 2656
LOVE THE WAY YOU LIE (29): 2503
CALIFORNIA GURLS (27): 2403
Remember, the criteria mentions that songs were given special consideration for average weeks in the top ten and at #1 (WBT spent 23 weeks in the top 10, 14 of those weeks at #1; Yeah! spent 24 weeks in the top 10, 12 of those weeks at #1; this would probably explain why they were ranked closely together in the 2008 chart).
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Originally posted by Green
maybe songs since March of 2012 are weighted differently.
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They are, I think. You can tell from looking at the year-end chart of 2012. Some songs like We Found Love, Stronger, Rack City, ****** in Paris, Good Feeling, Set Fire to the Rain, etc. which got popular before the change were lower than expected.
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"Abracadabra" - The Steve Miller Band
Hot 100 Peak: No. 1 for two weeks (1982)
As half of the Goldberg-Miller Blues Band, Steve Miller appeared on NBC's "Hullabaloo" in 1966, along with the Supremes. Years later, he was inspired by Diana Ross' "Upside Down" to write "Abracadabra."
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"Gangsta's Paradise" - Coolio feat. L.V.
Hot 100 Peak: No. 1 for three weeks (1995)
Coolio and L.V. based their song for the film "Dangerous Minds" on Stevie Wonder's "Pastime Paradise" from his masterpiece, "Songs in the Key of Life." But when they sent it to Wonder, he rejected it. "I had a few vulgarities…and he wasn't with that," says Coolio. "So I changed it. Once he heard it, he thought it was incredible."
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"Hot Stuff" - Donna Summer
Hot 100 Peak: No. 1 for three weeks (1979)
She was the reigning queen of disco, but Summer wanted to record a rock song. With Jeff "Skunk" Baxter on guitar, "Hot Stuff" was just the ticket. It was the first single from her double-LP "Bad Girls."
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"You're Still the One" - Shania Twain
Hot 100 Peak: No. 2 (1998)
The sixth of her 18 Hot 100 entries and the first to rise higher than No. 25. Her highest-ranked single at No. 2 as well as her longest-running song, with 42 weeks on the chart.
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"I Heard It Through the Grapevine" - Marvin Gaye
Hot 100 Peak: No. 1 for seven weeks (1968)
Gladys Knight and the Pips took the song to No. 2 in December 1967. Gaye's version hit No. 1 one year later, but was recorded before the Knight single. He wasn't the first Motown artist to record "Grapevine." Smokey Robinson and the Miracles cut it first, followed by the Isley Brothers.
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"Dilemma" - Nelly feat. Kelly Rowland
Hot 100 Peak: No. 1 for 10 weeks (2002)
"Dilemma" replaced Nelly's "Hot in Herre" at No. 1, making him the fifth artist in Hot 100 history at the time to succeed himself in pole position, following the Beatles, Boyz II Men, Puff Daddy and Ja Rule.
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"Just the Way You Are" - Bruno Mars
Hot 100 Peak: No. 1 for four weeks (2010)
Billboard's review of the single correctly predicted: "Mars has created a feel-good jam that should establish him as a solo contender in his own right." This song marked Mars' formal debut as a solo artist after charting as a featured guest on B.o.B's No. 1 hit, "Nothin' on You."
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"Sugar, Sugar" - The Archies
Hot 100 Peak: No. 1 for four weeks (1969)
Don Kirshner, music supervisor of Filmation's Saturday morning animated "The Archies," asked Jeff Barry to produce songs for the show by a group of studio musicians fronted by vocalist Ron Dante with an assist from Toni Wine. Canadian singer Andy Kim was asked to co-write with Barry and the result was the third Archies single, "Sugar, Sugar," Billboard's No. 1 Hot 100 song of 1969.
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"Upside Down" - Diana Ross
Hot 100 Peak: No. 1 for four weeks (1980)
When Ross heard the tracks produced by Bernard Edwards and Nile Rodgers, she felt like a guest vocalist on a Chic recording rather than the star of her own album. She insisted on a remix and the producers made slight changes and said if she still wasn't happy, she should remix the tracks herself. With Motown's Russ Terrana, she moved her vocals forward. "We had two different concepts of what her voice should sound like," Rodgers later explained.
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"That's What Friends Are For" - Dionne and Friends
Hot 100 Peak: No. 1 for four weeks (1986)
Rod Stewart recorded the Burt Bacharach-Carole Bayer Sager song first, for the 1982 film "Night Shift." In 1985, Sager asked Bacharach to play the song for Dionne Warwick, who suggested she record it with Stevie Wonder. They then decided to add Gladys Knight and Clive Davis suggested Elton John as the fourth vocalist. The song raised over $3 million for the American Foundation for AIDS Research.
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I didn't know "Grapevine" was that massive. Slay a bit, Marvin!
Sugar Sugar tho
and YAS Bruno & Shania!
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How often are these being released?? I need to know the whole thing NOW!!
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Shania I swear I love her Well done Bruno
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Originally posted by PurrKaty
How often are these being released?? I need to know the whole thing NOW!!
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10 positions each day
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Thanks, Green. I updated the OP.
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It's 10 per day until the end of the month.
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Originally posted by Green
My prediction for the new 12 songs:
Black Eyed Peas - I Gotta Feeling
Black Eyed Peas - Boom Boom Pow
Ke$ha - Tik Tok
Rihanna feat. Calvin Harris - We Found Love
Gotye feat. Kimbra - Somebody That I Used To Know
Carly Rae Jepsen - Call Me Maybe
ADELE - Rolling In The Deep
LMFAO - Party Rock Anthem
Maroon 5 feat. Christina Aguilera - Moves Like Jagger
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Bruno Mars - Just The Way You Are
Maroon 5 - One More Night
fun. feat. Janelle Monae - We Are Young
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EDITED
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Hoping for Firework and Hot N Cold to go top 40!
I wonder if they are going to an artist section.
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Quote:
Originally posted by umichgrad07
An explanation on how the 50th anniversary (2008) chart was compiled:
Interesting
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Here's a look at a few songs I've done (obviously, the scores are unweighted). I threw in a few older songs just for comparison purposes. The number in parentheses is the # of weeks in spent on the chart.
SONG TOTAL POINTS
I'M YOURS (76): 5433
PARTY ROCK ANTHEM (68): 5351
ROLLING IN THE DEEP (65): 4958
NEED YOU NOW (60): 4613
SOMEBODY THAT I USED TO KNOW (59): 4589
I GOTTA FEELING (56): 4487
CALL ME MAYBE (50): 4161
HO HEY (58): 4123
HEY, SOUL SISTER (54): 4114
JUST THE WAY YOU ARE (48): 3950
BIG GIRLS DON'T CRY (48): 3930
SOME NIGHTS (56): 3929
DYNAMITE (47): 3845
F**K YOU! (48): 3824
YEAH! (45): 3817
USE SOMEBODY (57): 3782
LIGHTS (57): 3620
JUST DANCE (49): 3567
WE FOUND LOVE (41): 3554
WE BELONG TOGETHER (43): 3547
IF I DIE YOUNG (53): 3518
SEXY & I KNOW IT (42): 3447
ONE MORE NIGHT (42): 3314
WE ARE YOUNG (42): 3314
FIREWORK (39): 3286
TIK TOK (38): 3241
POKER FACE (40): 3122
SOMEONE LIKE YOU (39): 3096
BOOM BOOM POW (33): 2820
GRENADE (36): 2778
SET FIRE TO THE RAIN (43): 2776
PAYPHONE (31): 2744
BAD ROMANCE (34): 2656
LOVE THE WAY YOU LIE (29): 2503
CALIFORNIA GURLS (27): 2403
Remember, the criteria mentions that songs were given special consideration for average weeks in the top ten and at #1 (WBT spent 23 weeks in the top 10, 14 of those weeks at #1; Yeah! spent 24 weeks in the top 10, 12 of those weeks at #1; this would probably explain why they were ranked closely together in the 2008 chart).
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Firework more points than Tik Tok or Poker Face.
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