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Poll: More relevant: Gaga vs Miley?
View Poll Results: More relevant?
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Gaga
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47.32% |
Miley
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Work Bitch
Gaga stans should know everything about declines, why are you shocked?
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Because we're only used to seeing Gaga decline with this era, but not Miley who was the most talked about pop star of 2013
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Gaga's tour is selling out. Miley's isn't.
Gaga just landed on the Forbes list. Miley didn't.
Here's the Forbes list methodology.
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Money
First we assess the financial resources controlled by each person. For the business, finance, media and tech categories we look at 2013 company revenue. For celebrities we use income earned from the most recent FORBES Celebrity 100. We tally 2013 GDP for politicians, and net worth from the FORBES 2014 World’s Billionaires list for those with ten-figure bank accounts. Women from nonprofits and NGOs are rated on dollars spent fulfilling an organization’s mission in the last year.
Media
The media component calculates global media mentions from publications, including newspapers, specialized periodicals, newswires and broadcast transcripts from all over the world in the past 12 months. We add to that a total of each woman or her company’s social media presence: Facebook fans, Twitter TWTR +0.68% and Weibo followers and YouTube channel subscribers, all as of May 2014.
Sphere of influence and impact
Next we determine if the candidate is powerful in multiple spheres. Casting a large shadow over one sphere isn’t enough, with Oprah being the ideal example of being a media maven, entrepreneur, businesswoman, billionaire, and philanthropist who occasionally dabbles in political king making. Finally we score our candidates on we how actively and successfully they wield their power within their organization or brand, sector and the global stage.
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So Gaga made more money, received more media coverage, and has more influence and impact.
Can't deny that.
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Originally posted by Matthew
Because we're only used to seeing Gaga decline with this era, but not Miley who was the most talked about pop star of 2013
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She really hasn't done **** all year other than her MTV Unplugged and the tour, did you expect her to stay that huge forever?
Her album is still selling, her non-singles are charting higher than actual singles, and she's still more checked for than 99% of the pop girls. I don't think she cares.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Miley right now
Gaga in general
Although Miley's star power has faded a little
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Member Since: 4/6/2014
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Anyone thinking that either Gaga or Miley going anywhere is delusional.
Trying to convince yourself by stating that in every thread doesn't make it a fact.
/ end thread.
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Originally posted by pika
Glad we've come to an agreement that Miley is more relevant currently. Nice talking, Rusty!
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So much so, that her latest single is doing terribly in her peak era. And Forbes estimates her tour to be selling poorly.
Goodness me, what sort of rapid-decline relevancy Queen is Miley. Ha 6 months at the top at an end!
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Member Since: 12/26/2011
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Originally posted by Rusty
So much so, that her latest single is doing terribly in her peak era. And Forbes estimates her tour to be selling poorly.
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Adore You sold more than DWUW despite the other having multiple live performances + 2 remixes and Adore You getting one MTV special performance. Adore You also sold 10x the amount as GUY. Again proving that Miley is more relevant, currently.
Forbes' article that you're talking about was strictly talking about the US selling poorly but then stated later on that ticket demand had risen. http://www.forbes.com/sites/jesselaw...ickets-rising/ (Forbes' article also used Google Searches and re-sellers such as Tiqiq to determine ticket demand when searches have nothing to do with such things nor do re-sellers since people have already bought the tickets - something your fellow Monsters laughed at a Katy stan for using in another thread).
LOVE this friendly chat.
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Originally posted by Work Bitch
She really hasn't done **** all year other than her MTV Unplugged and the tour, did you expect her to stay that huge forever?
Her album is still selling, her non-singles are charting higher than actual singles, and she's still more checked for than 99% of the pop girls. I don't think she cares.
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I didn't expect her to stay that huge, no. But certainly better than she's currently doing. In that original graph, she's not much higher than Gaga who is described as "irrelevant," "fading," and "a fad." Miley probably believed she could pull an 'Adele' and controversy would substitute for actual promotion regarding any future single releases. She was wrong, and her current level of relevancy proves it. If she truly had any power, she would be releasing new singles and they would smash, her tour would be doing better than Gaga's, and she'd be on Forbes' lists. The GP is now tired of her. Gaga showcased her talent as well as her antics when she was at her peak; Miley was just about the antics.
And, I'm done arguing with you. Your sig speaks volumes about your personality.
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Originally posted by Opacho
Gaga's tour is selling out. Miley's isn't.
Gaga just landed on the Forbes list. Miley didn't.
Here's the Forbes list methodology.
So Gaga made more money, received more media coverage, and has more influence and impact.
Can't deny that.
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gaga's tour is selling out? and Miley's isn't? you say that because of some articles you've found online? Then take a look at this: http://www.nbcnews.com/business/cons...-sales-n116231
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Member Since: 12/26/2011
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people are acting like Miley is still on some huge promotion train this year when that's what her fans have been begging for all year. The Bangerz era has gotten 0 live performances all year - literally 0. We got an MTV special in January (that broke social media records + attained high ratings ) but nothing else - a BBMA performance that wasn't even for her song and a World Music Award performance that wasn't even televised.
Gaga has released a new single and at least done something this year yet Miley is still ahead.
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Originally posted by Blue Momo!
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This is the article I was talking about that used a re-seller to gauge demand when that Forbes article literally did the same thing to Miley. If Gaga stans want to say Miley is selling poorly then they have to use this for Gaga since it applies to both.
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Member Since: 8/17/2011
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Miley atm. Anyone who disagrees is delusional
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Originally posted by pika
Adore You sold more than DWUW despite the other having multiple live performances + 2 remixes and Adore You getting one MTV special performance. Adore You also sold 10x the amount as GUY. Again proving that Miley is more relevant, currently.
Forbes' article that you're talking about was strictly talking about the US selling poorly but then stated later on that ticket demand had risen. http://www.forbes.com/sites/jesselaw...ickets-rising/ (Forbes' article also used Google Searches and re-sellers such as Tiqiq to determine ticket demand when searches have nothing to do with such things nor do re-sellers since people have already bought the tickets - something your fellow Monsters laughed at a Katy stan for using in another thread).
LOVE this friendly chat.
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All Adore You needed was the artist to go topless If Miley was so relevant she wouldn't be lagging in album sales and ticket sales. GUY flopped, nobody would deny that. DWUW had no video and the messiest promo this side of the wig Gaga wore at the artRave in Brooklyn. Care to provide receipts for Adore You outselling it though? I seem to recall next to no certs for it whereas DWUW has 1.4M from US + UK certs alone. It has much better charting too.
And like I said, we'll talk when the numbers come back for the two tours, one for an artist supposedly the "it" girl and another for a superstar in an underperforming era.
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Historically Gaga, currently Miley
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Originally posted by Blue Momo!
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You coming with re-sellers info as your source?
Those tickets already been bought, the coins are in the pocket
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Rusty
So much so, that her latest single is doing terribly in her peak era. And Forbes estimates her tour to be selling poorly.
Goodness me, what sort of rapid-decline relevancy Queen is Miley. Ha 6 months at the top at an end!
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Bangerz isn't even her real peak, she has five albums that sold more than Bangerz and WCS/WB weren't as big as PITUSA or The Climb, at least not in the US. Are you trying to call her a fad when she's still able to scan Platinum 8 years into her career, while others are struggling to get past 700k after only 5 years?
Adore You underperformed but it sold just as much as DWUW without 95m AI + an urban remix + a remix with Xtina + many high profile performances, isn't that more promo than WCS?
People are still here for her, otherwise her album would be out of the Top 200 and her singles wouldn't be selling, Bangerz has sold about 300k in the US this year without a real hit or any promo besides her MTV Unplugged.
I love how ATRL calls her a fad when she has outlasted Gaga and many other pop girls. Miley, ha power.
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Gaga. I feel as if Miley is fading and people are getting tired of seeing her do the same thing OVER and over again. But, I could be wrong.
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Member Since: 12/26/2011
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Originally posted by Rusty
All Adore You needed was the artist to go topless If Miley was so relevant she wouldn't be lagging in album sales and ticket sales. GUY flopped, nobody would deny that. DWUW had no video and the messiest promo this side of the wig Gaga wore at the artRave in Brooklyn.
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Do What U Want scraped past platinum as did Adore You, but the latter has attained a much better iTunes chart run since January. And who cares if the promo was messy? Messy promo > no promo
266. Miley Cyrus - Adore You
1012. Lady Gaga - Do What U Want (feat. R. Kelly)
we don't have updated sales but you'd be an idiot not to agree that Adore You outsold DWUW. Also this "Miley's the IT-Girl" "Miley's in her peak" excuse is getting old considering we're coming up on a year since the VMAs in a month. Like -- it's time to move on If you want to keep using that , I would've expected DWUW to sell better since sex and costumes worked so well for Gaga before.
Miley's album sales are also not lagging - it went platinum in the US with official sales of 1,020,000 (selling 4k weekly) and will keep chugging along as the weeks go by, she's doing fine.
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Originally posted by GypsyLife
You coming with re-sellers info as your source?
Those tickets already been bought, the coins are in the pocket
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re-sellers receipts count for this discussion since it is about who is more relevant
if people are not buying tickets wherever they are available than that says enough about that artist current state
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d.
Watch this turn into a stan war.
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