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ATRL: Why do some people think being gay is a choice?
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Originally posted by CaliforniaKing
But the thing is I'm choosing to be a bisexual man. If I no longer wanted to be bisexual I could simply stop. I wasn't born bisexual.
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So when was the exact moment you decided to be bisexual then, I'm extremely curious.
You are choosing to IDENTIFY as bisexual. You admitted yourself when you are single you are attracted to both men and women. You can decide to tell everyone you're straight, but you can't go into the hard-wiring of your brain and manually reboot WHAT you find attractive.
Pursuing attractions towards someone = a choice.
Having attractions towards someone = not a choice.
I can't tell if you're dumb, underage, trolling, or all three.
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Originally posted by CaliforniaKing
But the thing is I'm choosing to be a bisexual man. If I no longer wanted to be bisexual I could simply stop. I wasn't born bisexual.
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But you enjoy both. Did you wake up one day and say, "hmm, I'll take a nice **** up my ass today just because I feel like it?" No.
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Originally posted by BTrisc0392
@CaliforniaKIng
What you are saying (unintentionally) is that when you are with a woman you aren't gay, but when you are with a man you aren't straight, thus explaining why you think you are making a choice. However, the fact that you enjoy both is not a choice, you just lean towards one or the other at different times. That's like bisexuals watching straight or gay ****. You'll feel more "straight" or "gay" if you watch the respective **** more frequently, at least in my experience. That doesn't mean it's a choice.
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This is exactly what I'm saying. I do not watch **** frequently, but in my experience; I can enjoy straight, bisexual or gay **** equally. When I'm with a women, I have absolutely no interest in bisexual or gay ****. It does nothing for me. Also, I do not lean towards men or woman at different times. When I am single, I feel equally attracted to both.
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Originally posted by CaliforniaKing
This is exactly what I'm saying. I do not watch **** frequently, but in my experience; I can enjoy straight, bisexual or gay **** equally. When I'm with a women, I have absolutely no interest in bisexual or gay ****. It does nothing for me. Also, I do not lean towards men or woman at different times. When I am single, I feel equally attracted to both.
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Contradicting yourself and missing the point of what they were saying.
Girl, you need Jesus.
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Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla
You can decide to tell everyone you're straight, but you can't go into the hard-wiring of your brain and manually reboot WHAT you find attractive..
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FACT.
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Member Since: 11/10/2009
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Originally posted by CaliforniaKing
This is exactly what I'm saying. I do not watch **** frequently, but in my experience; I can enjoy straight, bisexual or gay **** equally. When I'm with a women, I have absolutely no interest in bisexual or gay ****. It does nothing for me. Also, I do not lean towards men or woman at different times. When I am single, I feel equally attracted to both.
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That's not a choice though. You are feeling that way naturally.
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Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla
You can decide to tell everyone you're straight, but you can't go into the hard-wiring of your brain and manually reboot WHAT you find attractive.
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Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla
I can't tell if you're dumb, underage, trolling, or all three.
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Underage? Btw, I'm 13
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Don't attack CaliforniaKing, he's just confused.
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Maybe one day I'll wake up and like kat.
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Originally posted by CaliforniaKing
But the thing is I'm choosing to be a bisexual man. If I no longer wanted to be bisexual I could simply stop. I wasn't born bisexual.
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Coming from someone who is a true bisexual that's a load of ********. You can't stop being bisexual, you will always have a physical attraction and feelings for both men and women.
Of course you can "choose" the gender, but you can't necessarily "choose" your feelings or attractions. A gay man or gay woman could easily "choose" to be with the opposite gender, but obviously if they're nawt attracted to them physically or mentally or even attracted to the opposite sex period then what is the point?
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CalifoniaKing is a MESS.
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Originally posted by CaliforniaKing
This is exactly what I'm saying. I do not watch **** frequently, but in my experience; I can enjoy straight, bisexual or gay **** equally. When I'm with a women, I have absolutely no interest in bisexual or gay ****. It does nothing for me. Also, I do not lean towards men or woman at different times. When I am single, I feel equally attracted to both.
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So it's not a conscious choice then.
I seriously don't get how you aren't noticing you're proving MY point, not yours.
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This is a mess
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Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla
So it's not a conscious choice then.
I seriously don't get how you aren't noticing you're proving MY point, not yours.
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I'm not trying to prove any point. There is only one person in the world who understands my sexuality and its me. I know for a fact that my sexual orientation is like a light switch that I can turn up and down. I recently broke up with my girlfriend. During the 9 months that we dated I did not think of men once. The only person I was attracted to was her. I admit that I would occasionally glance at other women, but never men. It was like my gay feeling no longer existed. Now that I am single, I feel like I've allowed the gay feelings to come back and I'm attracted to men again. But those feeling weren't suppressed or hidden, they simply were not there because I chose to devote myself to a woman.
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Originally posted by CaliforniaKing
I'm not trying to prove any point. There is only one person in the world who understands my sexuality and its me. I know for a fact that my sexual orientation is like a light switch that I can turn up and down. I recently broke up with my girlfriend. During the 9 months that we dated I did not think of men once. The only person I was attracted to was her. I admit that I would occasionally glance at other women, but never men. It was like my gay feeling no longer existed. Now that I am single, I feel like I've allowed the gay feelings to come back and I'm attracted to men again. But those feeling weren't suppressed or hidden, they simply were not therebecause I chose to devote myself to a woman.
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So you agree it wasn't a choice then? You did not choose to not have the feelings, they simply went away.
You CHOSE to be with a woman. You did not CHOOSE to find her attractive. You did not CHOOSE to find others unnattractive.
Seriously, step back and read what you say. Every single post you're putting up is making you sound dumber.
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I chose to be gay 'cause I thought that becoming a second-class citizen in my country would be fun.
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Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla
So you agree it wasn't a choice then? You did not choose to not have the feelings, they simply went away.
You CHOSE to be with a woman. You did not CHOOSE to find her attractive. You did not CHOOSE to find others unnattractive.
Seriously, step back and read what you say. Every single post you're putting up is making you sound dumber.
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No, I do not agree. It is a choice, I have full control over these feeling. Like I said, I see it as a light switch that I have control of. When I'm with a woman, I 'turn off' my gay feelings.
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Originally posted by CaliforniaKing
No, I do not agree. It is a choice, I have full control over these feeling. Like I said, I see it as a light switch that I have control of. When I'm with a woman, I 'turn off' my gay feelings.
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But you said yourself the feelings simply aren't there. That's not a conscious choice. And even when you do that, you're STILL bisexual, which you've acknowledged yourself.
If people could do that, no one would dislike anything because we'd all simply be able to choose to like it. Your saying that homosexuality is a choice because you're a bisexual and can choose to be with a man or a woman is so stupidly ignorant.
What about people that are fully homosexual or heterosexual? By your logic, they can just "turn off" their gay/straight feelings right? What happens then? Do they just become asexual?
Your stupid, flop view of sexuality is not the problem. The problem is that you're using your stupid, flop view to tell others that their sexuality is a choice when it's clearly not.
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Originally posted by CaliforniaKing
No, I do not agree. It is a choice, I have full control over these feeling. Like I said, I see it as a light switch that I have control of. When I'm with a woman, I 'turn off' my gay feelings.
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You're not "turning off" your "gay feelings," though. You're just not thinking about them because you're with a woman and you're being satisfied.
It's like wanting a piece of pizza but settling for a hamburger. The hamburger satisfies you, but you still like pizza.
Yay for horrible analogies.
I don't think there's anything coherently wrong with the way you view sexuality, I just think you have yet to discover what you are... I mean, that's the only way I can explain why you think the way you do. You're not alone, though, 'cause I know someone else who thinks the same thing, and oddly enough, they're a Rihanna fan, too.
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Quote:
Originally posted by CaliforniaKing
No, I do not agree. It is a choice, I have full control over these feeling. Like I said, I see it as a light switch that I have control of. When I'm with a woman, I 'turn off' my gay feelings.
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And regardless, this still makes you bisexual, because you acknowledge that you still have "gay" and "straight" feelings, and that both come back when you stop dating a man/woman.
I mean, really, what do you tell people? Do you tell them you're bisexual when you're single, and that you're straight when you're with a girl?
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