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Discussion: Is Bullying Worse Today or Are We Too Sensitive?
Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by 91Winchester
Because bullying=rape?
OK, let's do a thinking exercise here: What happens when these sensitive kids get artificially protected and they go to the workplace/real world and find they don't have the skills needed to navigate the adult world? We'll have a whole generation of dysfunctional adults.
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No, I never said that, but victim blaming is a common trait between rape and bullying. And please, do not patronise me. My brain works perfectly fine. My ability to think is A-OK, I assure you.
What happens when kids get protected? THE KIDS SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE PROTECTED TO BEGIN WITH! What skills do people acquire from being beaten up and verbally abused that helps them function in the "real world", pray tell?
Oh yeah, the victims of bullying will be the "dysfunctional adults", while the ones who bullied them will truly be the beacons of tomorrow for all of us  .
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Originally posted by 91Winchester
So much for freedom of speech.  |
It ain't worth the WP to say what I wanna say, so I'll keep it cute. Freedom of speech doesn't give you the right to use it as a way to spread hate. It allows you speak your mind, but if all a person CAN say is negativity aimed at one person solely to make them miserable, than that says more about you than it does them and you need to evaluate how you conduct yourself/standard of morals and ethics. "Freedom of speech" doesn't cover your ass.
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Originally posted by TikiMiss
People are too dang sensitive. A little bullying should teach kids valuable lessons about fighting for themselves and facing their fears. Now, we just have people looking to coddle everyone so that when these kids grow up, they will expect someone to coddle them too when they are in trouble, instead of solving the problem themselves.
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Personally, I'm glad I was bullied a bit as a kid because I learned that when I needed to, I could face the things I feared. And it also taught me not to give a crap what anyone else thinks of me.
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It usually doesn't end at "a little bullying". Kids who are bullied often have to endure this torture everyday for years and not being able to do anything about it.
I was never bullied myself, we all got along during elemntary and middle school surprisingly; and I was popular during high school (  ) but I have a nephew that does get bullied and he has not learned anything valuable from it as you're saying.
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I think people are more sensitive in this day and age.
With cyberbullying if it's someone who is getting bullied by people they know then I feel sympathy because you suffer from bullying at school, then they log onto facebook and see horrible stuff posted on there by the same people and it's just awful!
However when it comes to people being bullied by random strangers on the internet on other websites, I struggle to understand why they don't just block/report/log off because no-one forces you to go sign up for tumblr/instagram whatever, and you know by posting your pictures on a website will open yourself up to good and bad comments, so don't post pictures of yourself if you feel extremely self conscious.
In no way am I trying to condone bullying because it is horrible and should be stopped.
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Originally posted by SlayingOnTheEarth
Especially this one.
I want to add, to everyone saying "Um, they should stop being sensitive and log out". They shouldn't HAVE to log out from anywhere because someone is trying to make them feel less than. To say such a thing really shows your character imo
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Did you lie tho?
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Originally posted by Vato
It usually doesn't end at "a little bullying". Kids who are bullied often have to endure this torture everyday for years and not being able to do anything about it.
I was never bullied myself, we all got along during elemntary and middle school surprisingly; and I was popular during high school ( ) but I have a nephew that does get bullied and he has not learned anything valuable from it as you're saying. |
People love using their experiences as a means that works for everyone.
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Originally posted by realfilthypop
I think people are more sensitive in this day and age.
With cyberbullying if it's someone who is getting bullied by people they know then I feel sympathy because you suffer from bullying at school, then they log onto facebook and see horrible stuff posted on there by the same people and it's just awful!
However when it comes to people being bullied by random strangers on the internet on other websites, I struggle to understand why they don't just block/report/log off because no-one forces you to go sign up for tumblr/instagram whatever, and you know by posting your pictures on a website will open yourself up to good and bad comments, so don't post pictures of yourself if you feel extremely self conscious.
In no way am I trying to condone bullying because it is horrible and should be stopped.
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Yet you spent three prior paragraphs victim blaming and saying the people being bullied "asked for it" because they (like millions of others) freely signed up for social media sites.
So I can bully you on here then, because you signed up to site and nobody forced you? Do you realise how stupid that sounds?
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I think it's increased because of cyberbullying.
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Originally posted by Vato
It usually doesn't end at "a little bullying". Kids who are bullied often have to endure this torture everyday for years and not being able to do anything about it.
I was never bullied myself, we all got along during elemntary and middle school surprisingly. And I was popular during high school ( ) but I have a nephew that does get bullied and he has not learned anything valuable from it as you're saying. |
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Although the researchers accept that bullying can be damaging to children, leading to depression and anxiety, those who are not afraid to stand up for themselves can benefit from being picked on.
'Mutual dislike' can help students develop healthy social and emotional skills - and can sometimes have a bigger impact on their development than friendships, the researchers claim.
In a study of American children aged 11 and 12, researchers from the University of California, Los Angeles, compared those who stood up to aggressors with those who did not.
Children who returned hostility with hostility appeared to be the most mature, the researchers found.
Boys who stood up to bullies and schoolyard enemies were judged more socially competent by their teachers.
Girls who did the same were more popular and more admired by teachers and peers, the researchers found.
While the study did not suggest that it was healthy to be the victim of bullying, it found negative experiences could teach children about conflict
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Psychologist Melissa Witkow, who is now at Willamette University in Oregon, said: 'The study backs up research from academic Helene Guldberg, child development expert at the Open University, who said teachers should not protect pupils from playground spats as they can help them handle difficult events in the future.'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2yyhECRrW
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Not saying it's always good, but it does have many positive side effects. I know plenty of people who were severely bullied as children who became better adults and successful as a result of their experiences.
It's not just my experiences, but a lot of science backs this up. And it's natural. Also, just look at how all young animals play fight and battle as a means of learning to hunt and developing character. Its. nature.
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My friend was litterly cyber bullied by her boyfriend, he stalked her everywhere and got her own friends against her. He made accounts on every social network and added her and harrassed her. He stopped randomly, but it was going to the point that the police was about to get involved. It took her awhile for her to get over the problems, like now she has anxiety & depression.
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Originally posted by SlayingOnTheEarth
Yet you spent three prior paragraphs victim blaming and saying the people being bullied "asked for it" because they (like millions of others) freely signed up for social media sites.
So I can bully you on here then, because you signed up to site and nobody forced you? Do you realise how stupid that sounds? |
Three paragraphs of victim blaming?
Did I say people should be bullied because they signed up to a website? Please point that out to me because I clearly didn't.
I said people know that when they post pictures they are opening themselves up to good and bad comments, it would be ignorant to suggest that teenagers don't know what they are potentially letting themselves in for when they sign up these websites. I didn't say I agree with it.
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I don't believe it got any worst tbh. There are just new ways to bully now.
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Originally posted by Caesar
My friend was litterly cyber bullied by her boyfriend, he stalked her everywhere and got her own friends against her. He made accounts on every social network and added her and harrassed her. He stopped randomly, but it was going to the point that the police was about to get involved. It took her awhile for her to get over the problems, like now she has anxiety & depression.
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But didn't you hear? you can just log out and it will stop.
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Originally posted by I Am Music
But didn't you hear? you can just log out and it will stop. |
She used those sites to communicate with friends, and family. AND you cant log out and it will stop when the person is calling their mom and spamming their texts with the textfree app, constantly changing their number so they couldn't block them.
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Originally posted by Caesar
She used those sites to communicate with friends, and family. AND you cant log out and it will stop when the person is calling their mom and spamming their texts with the textfree app, constantly changing their number so they couldn't block them.
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I was being sarcastic. You're right.
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Originally posted by Caesar
She used those sites to communicate with friends, and family. AND you cant log out and it will stop when the person is calling their mom and spamming their texts with the textfree app, constantly changing their number so they couldn't block them.
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That is not bullying  That is nothing like bullying that is certified stalking that warrants a restraining order. Blurring the lines, next thing you will say Bestiality is bullying as well. Stalking=/=bullying, rape =/= bullying.
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Instead of preaching no bullying, parents and teachers should be preaching fighting back. 
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by realfilthypop
Three paragraphs of victim blaming?
Did I say people should be bullied because they signed up to a website? Please point that out to me because I clearly didn't.
I said people know that when they post pictures they are opening themselves up to good and bad comments, it would be ignorant to suggest that teenagers don't know what they are potentially letting themselves in for when they sign up these websites. I didn't say I agree with it.
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You know what, I'm a mess! Sorry sis. I was kinda fuming from some of these other posts and did a skimmed read of your post, thought you were making excuses and placing blame on innocent people (it's already happened) and I kinda went on one. Reading it back properly, I agree. It's different when it's people you don't know, but I still think it doesn't make it any less right/wrong. It's still uncalled for and people should put more thought into what they put out there.
I do get what you're saying, but I still don't think it's right to say that some people shouldn't post their pictures because others can't be decent people and not say anything at all.
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Originally posted by SlayingOnTheEarth
You know what, I'm a mess! Sorry sis. I was kinda fuming from some of these other posts and did a skimmed read of your post, thought you were making excuses and placing blame on innocent people (it's already happened) and I kinda went on one. Reading it back properly, I agree. It's different when it's people you don't know, but I still think it doesn't make it any less right/wrong. It's still uncalled for and people should put more thought into what they put out there.
I do get what you're saying, but I still don't think it's right to say that some people shouldn't post their pictures because others can't be decent people and not say anything at all. |
It's ok  I got a bit angry at your post because I don't agree with bullying. I agree it's not right that people get bullied even if they do or don't know the people doing it and things need to change. Hopefully one day people will be able to post personal stuff on the internet without negative things happening!
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It comes down to: What are we teaching our children to be? Are we teaching them to have proper self-confidence in themselves to weather life's storms?...or are we teaching them to lay down and die with every criticism thrown at them?
To keep this relevant to ATRL, Madonna (one of my faves) was heavily bullied and isolated during her High School years, but she came back stronger and is now the Queen of Pop. Who can bully her now?
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