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Originally posted by Dark_Lorde
A lot of songs are being thrown around in here as classics and it's kind of so far away from the Mark.
Roar, tik tok, hung up, just dance - People these are not classics. A song does not become a classic because it has had massive commercial success. A classic is a defining song of a decade, or a period of time. When you think of the 80's you think of songs like "Like a virgin" in the 90's you think of songs like "Vogue" (of course there are other artists that have produced classics in that time frame as well) - All those songs you're throwing around are not representations of an era or time period they're just big hits.
Bad Romance is the closest thing to a modern day classic that there is and believe me Kats, I prefer Katy over gaga under any circumstance, it's just the truth and we have to tell the truth.
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I dissagree.
The fact that you put Hung Up in the same sentence as Roar is just...
Roar is not even going to sell WW as much as it sold in the USA, which alone makes it USA centered. Put that aside, it was just a generic Smash hit.
Hung Up was not even played much in the USA yet it's still a classic. It smashed all over the world and everyone knows the melody and "Time go by so slowly" it's recognizable.
THe most important thing about a classic is being recognizable, being memorable, carrying something about a certain period in time and then of course being a smash.
Anyone saying "success" is not important is wrong. What you are trying to say is that it's not thE ONLY thing.
Hung Up is a classic and I can't believe you as a Madonna stan would deny it.
Roar ? No. Just Dance ? Maybe, but only for the simple reason it was one of the first dance pop smashes + it will always be Lady Gaga's first song.
Poker Face and Bad Romance ? A hella lot more than just Smashes.
Tik Tok ? I guess it's in between because I don't see how it had as much impact as the others, but at the same time you don't just sell 15M WW out of nothing.
Single Ladies ? This song is not even 10M WW, but it's freaking Single Ladies.
Umbrella ? ALWAYS A CLASSIC. It's the most important single in Rihanna's career, It was global as **** and everyone loves it.
We Found Love ? Rather a hit, than a classic.
Katy Perry .. ? Well I am sorry but her songs haven't had impact as the one I just mentioned. They didn't have impactful videos either. They are Dr Luke / Max Martin produced smashes. They didn't make Katy as huge as Gaga, they are not memorable. Firework ? This song has sold 65% of its sales in the USA. And it's still not even top 10 in the USA, let alone WW. And yeah success is not the only thing, but what else does Firework have besides success ? Exactly. (I can see it being a classic, but only in the USA and only because of 4th of july which is the most cringy thing tbh
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Britney .. ? Toxic wasn't that huge of a smash, yet it's a classic. BOMT is obvious, it's the beginning of the modern day pop I believe.
Christina ? Beauitful is a classic. I am gonna say that Hurt is also a classic and I am pretty sure it wasn't very big of a smash.
So yeah it really depends.