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Discussion: Did Janet Jackson and Madonna have beef back in the day?
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As if Madonna stans have the right to talk about being arrogant, pretentious and unclassy. What a mess
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Originally posted by Rolland
The fumes.
It's so sad how Janet stans can only use the "she's a rich woman" excuse nowadays, since you all have her on such a high pedestal, what a drop, then. By that logic, none of us can say a thing about any pop-star, yet we do. I mean, any person with a pair of functional brain cells would be able to grasp that I was talking about her career, which is pretty much dead and forgotten. But do you.
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Every artist's time on the top passes, and judging by Rebel Heart's swift disappearance from sight, hers has as well. But much like Madonna, Janet has a legacy and influence to where she doesn't have to do another thing. Speaking of Rebel Heart, why aren't all of you spending this much energy discussing that instead of a 23 year-old comment? Didn't she just release it barely 2 months ago? Janet fans are actually excited about our girl and could care less about what Madonna has or will do in her career. Didn't Madonna tell you all to live for love? Move on.
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Member Since: 4/4/2014
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We will see how the media will help her album sales
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Oh the ignorance.
Madonna may not of publicly came for Janet, but her tongue back then was fierce and she was very nasty and rude, especially behind the scenes and even more especially to her contemporaries. There is a very good reason none of the divas who came up with her didn't use her ass LOL. Whitney, Mariah, and Janet paid her major dust because she was always rude when it came to them.
FUTHERMORE, Janet's initial beef with her is because Madonna was clearly using her brother Michael and when he didn't follow suit with her she went on a smear campaign with him. Clearly, that isn't going to sit well with his baby sister!!
Janet didnt just come for her with no reason. Madonna was a hellion back in the late 80's and early 90's, thats no shade, so why would Janet us her, especially when Madonna clearly didn't use her either. She did a lot of funky things behind the scenes back in the day.
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Originally posted by Bitchcraft
As if Madonna stans have the right to talk about being arrogant, pretentious and unclassy. What a mess
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Exactly. The hypocrisy. I could literally post so many receipts in which all of that applies to Madonna. Much more than what they can post for Janet. But it would just be me stating things Madonna fans already know so what's the point.
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Originally posted by FreeXone
FUTHERMORE, Janet's initial beef with her is because Madonna was clearly using her brother Michael and when he didn't follow suit with her she went on a smear campaign with him. Clearly, that isn't going to sit well with his baby sister!!
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Plus her brilliant mind thought it would be a good idea to diss Janet to Michael. Poor soul. Lost the chance to have a relevant collabo with the biggest act ever. That means you NEVER mess with J.J.
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Originally posted by IMPACTNET.
Every artist's time on the top passes, and judging by Rebel Heart's swift disappearance from sight, hers has as well. But much like Madonna, Janet has a legacy and influence to where she doesn't have to do another thing. Speaking of Rebel Heart, why aren't all of you spending this much energy discussing that instead of a 23 year-old comment? Didn't she just release it barely 2 months ago? Janet fans are actually excited about our girl and could care less about what Madonna has or will do in her career. Didn't Madonna tell you all to live for love? Move on.
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After a +30 year old career she's still heading to sell 1 million albums with flop singles and a sold out worldwide tour; achievements that even current hot acts struggle to get, it's such a shame Janet can't say the same. Can't wait to see if Janet will be able to outdo Rebel Heart, both album and tour, let's not even try with MDNA and S&S, let's give her a chance hihi.
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Originally posted by Bitchcraft
As if Madonna stans have the right to talk about being arrogant, pretentious and unclassy. What a mess
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She's Madonna, she's in a position where she CAN do that and more. Janet on the other hand...
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Originally posted by Smooth Criminal
When the media talks about Madonna nowadays we see Drake's disgust face.
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A bunch of online reports as proof when her latest efforts boombed, her catalogue sales for both albums and singles are pretty much nonexistent, and the fact that she's unknown by newer generations support my point, REALLY?
Let's see how those online reports help her when it comes to sell her new material + tour.
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Member Since: 4/4/2014
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Originally posted by Rolland
After a +30 year old career she's still heading to sell 1 million albums with flop singles and a sold out worldwide tour; achievements that even current hot acts struggle to get, it's such a shame Janet can't say the same. Can't wait to see if Janet will be able to outdo Rebel Heart, both album and tour, let's not even try with MDNA and S&S, let's give her a chance hihi.
She's Madonna, she's in a position where she CAN do that and more. Janet on the other hand...
A bunch of online reports as proof when her latest efforts boombed, her catalogue sales for both albums and singles are pretty much nonexistent, and the fact that she's unknown by newer generations support my point, REALLY?
Let's see how those online reports help her when it comes to sell her new material + tour.
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Let them breath
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Originally posted by Rolland
After a +30 year old career she's still heading to sell 1 million albums with flop singles and a sold out worldwide tour; achievements that even current hot acts struggle to get, it's such a shame Janet can't say the same. Can't wait to see if Janet will be able to outdo Rebel Heart, both album and tour, let's not even try with MDNA and S&S, let's give her a chance hihi.
She's Madonna, she's in a position where she CAN do that and more. Janet on the other hand...
A bunch of online reports as proof when her latest efforts boombed, her catalogue sales for both albums and singles are pretty much nonexistent, and the fact that she's unknown by newer generations support my point, REALLY?
Let's see how those online reports help her when it comes to sell her new material + tour.
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Lol ok girl we will see. I can now see where all of this anger toward Janet is stemming from. Hopefully Janet will fail so all you Madonna fans can have restful nights of sleep.
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She looks a bit attention seeking with that shade, tbh.
Still love her, though.
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Madonna stans saying no one from this generation knows Janet when the only reasons Madonna IS known by people under 17 is for getting in feuds, pimping herself to every act that gets a top 5 on Billboard or higher than a 70 on pitchfork, and making out with Drake.
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Member Since: 1/7/2014
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Originally posted by FreeXone
Oh the ignorance.
Madonna may not of publicly came for Janet, but her tongue back then was fierce and she was very nasty and rude, especially behind the scenes and even more especially to her contemporaries. There is a very good reason none of the divas who came up with her didn't use her ass LOL. Whitney, Mariah, and Janet paid her major dust because she was always rude when it came to them.
FUTHERMORE, Janet's initial beef with her is because Madonna was clearly using her brother Michael and when he didn't follow suit with her she went on a smear campaign with him. Clearly, that isn't going to sit well with his baby sister!!
Janet didnt just come for her with no reason. Madonna was a hellion back in the late 80's and early 90's, thats no shade, so why would Janet us her, especially when Madonna clearly didn't use her either. She did a lot of funky things behind the scenes back in the day.
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But there is no proof of Madonna trashing Janet in the 80s or 90s.. so basically you're wrongfully speculating what happened because of her so called "behavior". Give me a break.. I can easily speculate that Janet was jealous she wasn't the Queen of Pop
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Originally posted by BYoncé
Madonna stans saying no one from this generation knows Janet when the only reasons Madonna IS known by people under 17 is for getting in feuds, pimping herself to every act that gets a top 5 on Billboard or higher than a 70 on pitchfork, and making out with Drake.
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Is that a bad thing? Not being known by kids?
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Originally posted by ArtForFreedom
But there is no proof of Madonna trashing Janet in the 80s or 90s.. so basically you're wrongfully speculating what happened because of her so called "behavior". Give me a break.. I can easily speculate that Janet was jealous she wasn't the Queen of Pop
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Pretty sure Jermaine Jackson wrote about it and confirmed it in his book.
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Originally posted by Cest_La_Vie
Pretty sure Jermaine Jackson wrote about it and confirmed it in his book.
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You have a link?
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Janet was always very bitter towards Madonna
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Originally posted by Cest_La_Vie
Pretty sure Jermaine Jackson wrote about it and confirmed it in his book.
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And of course her brother is going to defend her actions
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Member Since: 5/6/2010
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Originally posted by I Am Music
People getting mad over 20+ years old shade does either one remember their beef at this point?
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Member Since: 6/30/2012
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Originally posted by ***** of Babylon
The good old days when selling 2 million was considered embarrassing.
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didn't artpop get dragged by it's roots for selling 2 million tho?
despite having a 2 million selling single
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Member Since: 5/6/2010
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Originally posted by ArtForFreedom
Is that a bad thing? Not being known by kids?
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Yes. How is your legacy supposed to live on without the youth?
This generation knows MJ, Whitney and Mariah. Madge, not so much.
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