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Poll: More impressive: 1989 vs. Beyoncé?
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1989
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59.06% |
BEYONCÉ
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40.94% |
Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Timber
The "stunt" only makes it more impressive. Other artists would have flopped had they done that.
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Well, the fact that most people bought BEYONCÉ thinking it was her comeback/follow-up album to I Am... Sasha Fierce...
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Member Since: 11/11/2009
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Originally posted by Timber
The "stunt" only makes it more impressive. Other artists would have flopped had they done that.
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And they act like releasing "Shake It Off" as the first single isn't the biggest stunt ever. The safest and easiest way to get her coins while throwing her "Country" roots in the trash. I'd like to see how she would've done if she has released a creative and original song as the first single.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Trent W
I will never ever ever know what impact and influence does an album released 8 months ago has in the industry. Like seriously!
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That's because you're a very clearly pressed and delusional individual. I know it, deep down you probably know it, and most people on this forum know it. Moving along....
Realistically speaking, BEYONCÉ is more impressive. Apart from the people who spend their days on ATRL, no one had an idea she was releasing a full album of music with videos to accompany each song. Taylor made a very forward sounding pop album, but Beyoncé created the magnum opus of her discography. To argue otherwise is...... you'd just be letting your stanning / disdain for the other person cloud your judgement, like the troll above this post.
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Member Since: 3/16/2006
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Originally posted by Walley
And they act like releasing "Shake It Off" as the first single isn't the biggest stunt ever. The safest and easiest way to get her coins while throwing her "Country" roots in the trash. I'd like to see how she would've done if she has released a creative and original song as the first single.
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A stunt was also the only reason beyonce's album sold that much. I'd like 2 see how she would've done if she had released the traditional way
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Originally posted by qurl
That's because you're a very clearly pressed and delusional individual. I know it, deep down you probably know it, and most people on this forum know it. Moving along....
Realistically speaking, BEYONCÉ is more impressive. Apart from the people who spend their days on ATRL, no one had an idea she was releasing a full album of music with videos to accompany each song. Taylor made a very forward sounding pop album, but Beyoncé created the magnum opus of her discography. To argue otherwise is...... you'd just be letting your stanning / disdain for the other person cloud your judgement, like the troll above this post.
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So the album that sell 600k in 24 hours is less impressive than the one that sold 600k in 3 days and filmed 17 music videos and a huge media campaign to promote it.........
And you are also telling me I'm trolling
LMFAO you are killing me here!
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Originally posted by qurl
That's because you're a very clearly pressed and delusional individual. I know it, deep down you probably know it, and most people on this forum know it. Moving along....
Realistically speaking, BEYONCÉ is more impressive. Apart from the people who spend their days on ATRL, no one had an idea she was releasing a full album of music with videos to accompany each song. Taylor made a very forward sounding pop album, but Beyoncé created the magnum opus of her discography. To argue otherwise is...... you'd just be letting your stanning / disdain for the other person cloud your judgement, like the troll above this post.
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No. To argue otherwise is to continue this cycle of nonsense. Both had a very impressive album release and it's hard to pick one because neither did what the other did. Now, to argue otherwise on this is letting your stanning / disdain for the other person cloud your judgement.
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Member Since: 11/29/2010
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1989. The biggest female one day sales ever, right?
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Member Since: 3/1/2014
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One thing I would like to point out is, do people not see the risk involved with a release like BEYONCE?
It can prove to be disastrous. And only selling it on one retailer. And doing NO promo at all. Not even going out to tell people that "Hey, my album is out, go check it out." No.
That could be a recipe for disaster BUT alas, it wasn't in BEYONCE's case. It became one of the best selling albums of last year.
That is extremely impressive no matter which way you try to spin it.
Traditional releases (like 1989's) are wayyyyy safer than compared to dropping your album out of the blue.
With that being said, Taylor's achievement is also commendable.
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So Taylor doing Taylor-like numbers with Taylor-like promo is more impressive than Beyonce being seasoned artist people claimed was over, releasing surprise album and breaking iTunes servers and breaking her initial sales record eight years later Just because people who don't care about her were forced to buy the album. I mean, it had videos so obviously they had to have videos for every song of their not favourite artist on their iTunes. It's not like they could pirate it.... ATRL's logic.
Everybody was expecting at LEAST 600k for Taylor before even hearing the songs and befire the promo schedule just because it's Taylor.
Also at Taylor not using gimmicks with 1989
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Originally posted by Thor
One thing I would like to point out is, do people not see the risk involved with a release like BEYONCE?
It can prove to be disastrous. And only selling it on one retailer. And doing NO promo at all. Not even going out to tell people that "Hey, my album is out, go check it out." No.
That could be a recipe for disaster BUT alas, it wasn't in BEYONCE's case. It became one of the best selling albums of last year.
That is extremely impressive no matter which way you try to spin it.
Traditional releases (like 1989's) are wayyyyy safer than compared to dropping your album out of the blue.
With that being said, Taylor's achievement is also commendable.
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This is not true at all
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Member Since: 12/6/2011
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Lets put it this way...suppose Beyonce had had 1 million debuts her previous 2 album cycles, then released one that sold 600k in one day after promo like Taylor's, and Taylor had released her's last year only on itunes and sold 600k in three days as Beyonce did.
In essence the roles were reversed.
Who would you say was more impressive then?
Probably same people would hold same opinions, because their fandom didn't change. So its kinda pointless to argue; unless one overshadows the other beyond any possible doubt, fans will claim their star is brighter no matter what.
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Member Since: 3/1/2014
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Originally posted by Trent W
This is not true at all
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Does promo, performances, No. 1 song, promo singles not increase the chances of an artist having a great debut? Does it not increase the chances of success manifold compared to dropping your album out of nowhere? & that too, only on one retailer?
I mean...
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Member Since: 12/6/2011
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Quote:
Originally posted by Thor
One thing I would like to point out is, do people not see the risk involved with a release like BEYONCE?
It can prove to be disastrous. And only selling it on one retailer. And doing NO promo at all. Not even going out to tell people that "Hey, my album is out, go check it out." No.
That could be a recipe for disaster BUT alas, it wasn't in BEYONCE's case. It became one of the best selling albums of last year.
That is extremely impressive no matter which way you try to spin it.
Traditional releases (like 1989's) are wayyyyy safer than compared to dropping your album out of the blue.
With that being said, Taylor's achievement is also commendable.
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I don't think it would have been disatrous. At that point in her career I don't think anyone was putting large expectations on her. So if she had sold moderately well no one would have judged her, and if she had sold badly the lack of promo would have been used as the reason.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Trent W
This is not true at all
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Right? Conventional promotion in a time when album sales are plummeting is not at ALL safe.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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There are other perspectives to look at than just how much an album can sell within it's first 24 hours. Hell Beyoncé sold more in 24 hours than some of ya'll's fave's last album did TOTAL but that's neither here nor there.
Not to say what Taylor has done isn't impressive, but if you look at the release, content, reaction from the general public, I think it's pretty obvious that Beyoncé is the winner. But that's all why we stan for different people, or whatever.
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Both are very impressive. I'm gonna say Taylor though.
Beyonce was kinda low-key building hype for herself all year with the Superbowl, Pepsi commercials, tour, documentary, etc....keeping her name out there and her presence there. It wasn't like she was out of the spotlight for a long time and just quietly put an album on iTunes....she was in the spotlight leading up to it, building up her star power, and the surprise album was promo in itself considering it generated so much buzz.
Which again, is extremely impressive and unheard of. I'm not trying to downplay it. I'm just saying that I think Taylor's is more impressive because it has had a traditional release....there were no new tricks or anything they pulled. Also, this is her 3rd album in a row to do it.
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Funny how the only ones saying 1989 are the wasps who run in every Bey thread. If you hate her so much, avoid threads about her.
I never click on the threads about artists I don't care about. I just don't have the time.
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Originally posted by qurl
There are other perspectives to look at than just how much an album can sell within it's first 24 hours. Hell Beyoncé sold more in 24 hours than some of ya'll's fave's last album did TOTAL but that's neither here nor there.
Not to say what Taylor has done isn't impressive, but if you look at the release, content, reaction from the general public, I think it's pretty obvious that Beyoncé is the winner. But that's all why we stan for different people, or whatever.
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The numbers are saying the exact opposite thing of that!
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Member Since: 6/25/2012
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Quote:
Originally posted by Walley
And they act like releasing "Shake It Off" as the first single isn't the biggest stunt ever. The safest and easiest way to get her coins while throwing her "Country" roots in the trash. I'd like to see how she would've done if she has released a creative and original song as the first single.
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so i guess releasing XO was a stunt as well?
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Originally posted by taylamour
Right? Conventional promotion in a time when album sales are plummeting is not at ALL safe.
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The fact that she's doing these numbers and the entire itunes chart is flood with her tracks tells you which one is way more impressive.
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