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Discussion: Does ATRL Support A Bully Culture?
Member Since: 5/8/2012
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Originally posted by JeremyALD
A whole 1 point average above Kelly on Metacritic
Who was praised for their national anthem at the Superbowl, for a flawless live performance at Obama's inauguration, is the most nominated female artist at the Grammy's and is the reason that reality single competitions became one of the world's biggest phenomena
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he didnt mean on Metacritic. There is more to critical acclaim than a metacritic score. Does Kelly have albums in the top 5 of year end list? Does she have a single that has been called one the greatest of all time because Beyonce has all of that plus she 16 grammys. Does Kelly even 5?
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Member Since: 12/10/2011
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Originally posted by madonnas
It is more acclaimed than Daydream There's more to critical acclaim to just getting good reviews (which Daydream and Butterfly did get).
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Tell me.
The singles were met with great reviews including "Fantasy" and "Always Be My Baby" + she was nominated (and won) many awards for the album and commended on her vocal arrangements for some of the album tracks.. It's also in The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame's Top 200 Albums archive from 07/08.
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Member Since: 6/23/2012
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But acclaimed in what way? For pop girl standards she's by far one of the most acclaimed.
I doubt she, or any other pop girl, will ever have an acclaimed album on the level of someone like... Bjork. Or do you just want her to get a metacritic score in the high 70s/80s?
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Member Since: 3/15/2011
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Originally posted by madonnas
With one point, and about a billion more mentions by all relevant music critics. Yet you keep on avoiding that point, for some reason. Kelly's biggest song by critics isn't even touching Crazy In Love's wig.
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At least Kelly's most recent hit was under a year ago
But sometimes artists decline after a decade, it's normal. Don't worry.
Now can we get back on topic please.
I'm just curious to see if Beyonce will go back to more generic pop after 4 or continue to branch out.
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Member Since: 2/17/2012
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Originally posted by Praise Mariallah
Tell me.
The singles were met with great reviews including "Fantasy" and "Always Be My Baby" + she was nominated (and won) many awards for the album.
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So did Countdown, which was considered one of the best songs of the year by critics. I don't mean to dig at Mariah, but my point is that 4 is a hugely acclaimed female pop album.
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Member Since: 2/17/2012
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Originally posted by JeremyALD
At least Kelly's most recent hit was under a year ago
But sometimes artists decline after a decade, it's normal. Don't worry.
Now can we get back on topic please.
I'm just curious to see if Beyonce will go back to more generic pop after 4 or continue to branch out.
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What? I was on topic, you weren't, don't drag me down with you. And are you calling 4 or IASF generic pop? (or both?)
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Member Since: 5/1/2012
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Originally posted by Katamari
he didnt mean on Metacritic. There is more to critical acclaim than a metacritic score. Does Kelly have albums in the top 5 of year end list? Does she have a single that has been called one the greatest of all time because Beyonce has all of that plus she 16 grammys. Does Kelly even 5?
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Yeah. Since U Been Gone.
And Grammys have nothing to do with critical acclaim, look at TD and its countless nominations.
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Member Since: 11/23/2011
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Beyonce already has a critically acclaimed album. 4 did very well across the board and publications that usually don't favor her type of music gave her generally positive reviews and included it on their year ends.
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Originally posted by Muggwa
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Nope. Polls have proven that the stans and ATRL agrees that Stronger is far from being her best album.
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Member Since: 7/12/2010
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Originally posted by JeremyALD
At least Kelly's most recent hit was under a year ago
But sometimes artists decline after a decade, it's normal. Don't worry.
Now can we get back on topic please.
I'm just curious to see if Beyonce will go back to more generic pop after 4 or continue to branch out.
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You are such an embarrassing Kelly stan. My God.
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Member Since: 4/22/2012
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She already does.
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Member Since: 12/14/2011
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Most critically acclaimed songs of 2011:
#02. Beyoncé, Countdown
#51. Beyoncé, Love on Top
#77. Beyoncé, 1+1
#137. Beyoncé, Run the World (Girls)
#137. Kelly Clarkson, Mr. Know It All
#343. Kelly Clarkson, I Forgive You
#604. Kelly Clarkson, Let Me Down
#604. Kelly Clarkson, What Doesn't Kill You (Stronger)
Anywhom.
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Member Since: 3/15/2011
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Originally posted by madonnas
What? I was on topic, you weren't, don't drag me down with you. And are you calling 4 or IASF generic pop? (or both?)
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ISAF was generic, 4 wasn't.
However ISAF was much more successful, which is why I think it will be interesting to see where Bey goes. We all know she loves success, so I'm sure we'll see a successful lead artist feature in a couple of her singles.
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Member Since: 8/16/2011
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Originally posted by JeremyALD
Is being 3% above Kelly's weak All I Ever Wanted album, acceptable for a King though
I personally would like to see an album produced by Beyonce - that really shows her strengths as a vocalist, performer and a songwriter.
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NNNNNNNNNN @ KELLY FANS STILL DOING THE MOST
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Member Since: 7/12/2010
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Originally posted by Muggwa
Most critically acclaimed songs of 2011:
#02. Beyoncé, Countdown
#51. Beyoncé, Love on Top
#77. Beyoncé, 1+1
#137. Beyoncé, Run the World (Girls)
#137. Kelly Clarkson, Mr. Know It All
#343. Kelly Clarkson, I Forgive You
#604. Kelly Clarkson, Let Me Down
#604. Kelly Clarkson, What Doesn't Kill You (Stronger)
Anywhom.
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Member Since: 5/8/2012
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Originally posted by jqnetto
Yeah. Since U Been Gone.
And Grammys have nothing to do with critical acclaim, look at TD and its countless nominations.
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i see. it would mean more if she wrote and/or produced the song but hey whatever
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Member Since: 2/17/2012
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Originally posted by Muggwa
Most critically acclaimed songs of 2011:
#02. Beyoncé, Countdown
#51. Beyoncé, Love on Top
#77. Beyoncé, 1+1
#137. Beyoncé, Run the World (Girls)
#137. Kelly Clarkson, Mr. Know It All
#343. Kelly Clarkson, I Forgive You
#604. Kelly Clarkson, Let Me Down
#604. Kelly Clarkson, What Doesn't Kill You (Stronger)
Anywhom.
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Beyonce has had TWO #2s on P&J (higher than any Kelly song), AND she has an album in a top 300!
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Member Since: 3/15/2011
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Quote:
Originally posted by Muggwa
Most critically acclaimed songs of 2011:
#02. Beyoncé, Countdown
#51. Beyoncé, Love on Top
#77. Beyoncé, 1+1
#137. Beyoncé, Run the World (Girls)
#137. Kelly Clarkson, Mr. Know It All
#343. Kelly Clarkson, I Forgive You
#604. Kelly Clarkson, Let Me Down
#604. Kelly Clarkson, What Doesn't Kill You (Stronger)
Anywhom.
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What sort of fail source
Isn't the song last on that list four times platinum and nominated for four Grammy's
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Member Since: 3/15/2011
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Originally posted by Katamari
i see. it would mean more if she wrote and/or produced the song but hey whatever
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Kelly doesn't pay for writing credits
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Member Since: 2/17/2012
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Quote:
Originally posted by JeremyALD
ISAF was generic, 4 wasn't.
However ISAF was much more successful, which is why I think it will be interesting to see where Bey goes. We all know she loves success, so I'm sure we'll see a successful lead artist feature in a couple of her singles.
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Kay, but it will probably be more acclaimed than any Kelly album (as usual).
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Originally posted by JeremyALD
What sort of fail source
Isn't the song last on that list four times platinum and nominated for four Grammy's
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What are you talking about? The Pazz & Jop poll is very respected.
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Member Since: 7/21/2010
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Quote:
Originally posted by Muggwa
Most critically acclaimed songs of 2011:
#02. Beyoncé, Countdown
#51. Beyoncé, Love on Top
#77. Beyoncé, 1+1
#137. Beyoncé, Run the World (Girls)
#137. Kelly Clarkson, Mr. Know It All
#343. Kelly Clarkson, I Forgive You
#604. Kelly Clarkson, Let Me Down
#604. Kelly Clarkson, What Doesn't Kill You (Stronger)
Anywhom.
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Ooop.
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