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Discussion: Average IQ by country
Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by Golden
I understand what you're tying to say, I just don't get why you're so quick to write off a list just because it shows somewhat of a trend (Asian countries ranked atop, African countries ranked low). But anyway, measuring the average IQ of a country is pretty much impossible anyway.
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IQ is pretty widely seen a poor way to assess intelligence, to take it and then try and use to explain worldwide distribution of intelligence is in fact madness.
I was saying that it is important to remember that high IQ isn't a reflection of innate intelligence, it is as an overall trend only a product of education, among other things, which poverty stricken countries often lack.
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Originally posted by KK_Lover
Ciao Ciao poraccio
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Sono italiana anche io e stavo solo esprimendo la mia sorpresa nell'essere in top 10
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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It's dumb to say that IQ is mostly related to wealth though. Finland is generally considered to have the best education system in the world and still isn't in top 10. Asian countries dominating top 5 shows how dedicated, hardworking and smart are they in general. You know the countless of stereotypes that Asian kids are the smartest in school, well that's true. You have super rich countries like Norway again failing to crack top 10. You have Qatar, Norway, etc filthy rich countries just because off their oil. Having oil in your soil, doesn't mean being smarter. So, yeah the list trends and tendencies are right. And another thing to add. U.S, France and other countries have been hit high by immigration, so ofc their ranks are fairly high considered to their proportion size and immigration influx.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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slaying the top 30
Hong Kong tho
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Originally posted by CallumDavies
I didn't say it was a perfect correlation, but a trend. However, some countries have better structured and funded education systems than others, like in the US, funding allocations for public schools is a mix of federal, state and local district sources. This means that schools in richer areas have more funding, and those in poorer areas have less, not everyone has equal opportunity to the same education in America, which is probably why it isn't higher.
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Fun fact:
Average IQ for African-Americans: 85
Average IQ for all USA (including black people): 98
This mean that black people decrease average IQ for the country and without them USA would score few points more and probably would fit into top10
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Italy & Japan
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Originally posted by EloiseheartsRiRi
It's dumb to say that IQ is mostly related to wealth though. Finland is generally considered to have the best education system in the world and still isn't in top 10. Asian countries dominating top 5 shows how dedicated, hardworking and smart are they in general. You know the countless of stereotypes that Asian kids are the smartest in school, well that's true. You have super rich countries like Norway again failing to crack top 10. You have Qatar, Norway, etc filthy rich countries just because off their oil. Having oil in your soil, doesn't mean being smarter. So, yeah the list trends and tendencies are right. And another thing to add. U.S, France and other countries have been hit high by immigration, so ofc their ranks are fairly high considered to their proportion size and immigration influx.
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I did say culture of education was also a factor, dependent on availability of a good education
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Mandarke
Fun fact:
Average IQ for African-Americans: 85
Average IQ for all USA (including black people): 98
This mean that black people decrease average IQ for the country and without them USA would score few points more and probably would fit into top10
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This will turn messy...
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To be honest I don't think the UK is anywhere near 100, so I'm not sure about this
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Originally posted by Mandarke
Fun fact:
Average IQ for African-Americans: 85
Average IQ for all USA (including black people): 98
This mean that black people decrease average IQ for the country and without them USA would score few points more and probably would fit into top10
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Did you really have to stoop that low?
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Originally posted by Mandarke
Fun fact:
Average IQ for African-Americans: 85
Average IQ for all USA (including black people): 98
This mean that black people decrease average IQ for the country and without them USA would score few points more and probably would fit into top10
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You're disgusting.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by Mandarke
Fun fact:
Average IQ for African-Americans: 85
Average IQ for all USA (including black people): 98
This mean that black people decrease average IQ for the country and without them USA would score few points more and probably would fit into top10
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well lets not get into the complexities of race and privilege in america, as I previously said, rich areas of america have better schools, poorer areas don't, black people experience higher incidence of poverty and are ghettoised and oppressed, so in this particular example it would uneducated of you to infer that black people have lower IQs because they are less intelligent
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Nnnnn. Should have known the OP would bring out the racists. Lemme Perch .
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Originally posted by CallumDavies
IQ is pretty widely seen a poor way to assess intelligence, to take it and then try and use to explain worldwide distribution of intelligence is in fact madness.
I was saying that it is important to remember that high IQ isn't a reflection of innate intelligence, it is as an overall trend only a product of education, among other things, which poverty stricken countries often lack.
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The sampling of it into proportions fits seems absurd. It's more then making a GDP rationale over a data set of numbers. There are way more factors in equation played than IQ test which spread over a population sample leaves space for doubt, I agree.
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Originally posted by EloiseheartsRiRi
It's dumb to say that IQ is mostly related to wealth though. Finland is generally considered to have the best education system in the world and still isn't in top 10. Asian countries dominating top 5 shows how dedicated, hardworking and smart are they in general. You know the countless of stereotypes that Asian kids are the smartest in school, well that's true. You have super rich countries like Norway again failing to crack top 10. You have Qatar, Norway, etc filthy rich countries just because off their oil. Having oil in your soil, doesn't mean being smarter. So, yeah the list trends and tendencies are right. And another thing to add. U.S, France and other countries have been hit high by immigration, so ofc their ranks are fairly high considered to their proportion size and immigration influx.
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This is false, Asian countries are considered to have the best education systems. Finland is 5th, China-HK/Japan/South Korea and Taiwan are currently the top 4.
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Originally posted by Mandarke
Fun fact:
Average IQ for African-Americans: 85
Average IQ for all USA (including black people): 98
This mean that black people decrease average IQ for the country and without them USA would score few points more and probably would fit into top10
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No chill.
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Originally posted by Diuzza
Sono italiana anche io e stavo solo esprimendo la mia sorpresa nell'essere in top 10
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Figura di merda haahah
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Originally posted by Kali.
That's a giant simplification and it's pretty inaccurate. Intelligence is genetic, there are numerous articles that state that adopted children always have IQ more similar to their biological parents' IQ than to their adoptive parents' no matter in what conditions they were raised in. My country, Poland, is kind of poor and it's pretty high on the scale, yet Finland, a MUCH wealthier country is lower. You were saying???
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You honestly believe that if you're as smart as your parents it's due to genetics?
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U.K. being top 15.
Netherlands, Germany, Italy and Austria tied at #6.
Canada and the U.S. being towards the bottom of the list.
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This list would be a more accurate representation of intelligence if everyone tested had equal opportunities. Of course a university student in Hong Kong would achieve a better score than a factory worker in Ghana, like use your brains.
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