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Poll: BIggest Peak: Gaga, Bey, Brit, Madonna, Mariah, Katy?
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View Poll Results: Largest Peak?
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Madonna, Legendary Queen of Pop
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27 |
23.48% |
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Mariah Carey, Legendary Queen of #1s
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7 |
6.09% |
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Britney Spears, Legendary Princess of Pop
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43 |
37.39% |
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Beyonce, Pop Icon
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5 |
4.35% |
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Lady Gaga, Iconic Global Phenomenon
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23 |
20.00% |
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Katy Perry, Popular Female MJ
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6 |
5.22% |
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#JusticeForFocus
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4 |
3.48% |
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not people "kii" over The Fame about being the biggest
it is second best selling album after Adele 21 since 2004/2003 (so its easily second biggest of this century since sales were better in 2000-2004)
Poker Face, Just Dance and BadRomance all sold over 10M WW and telephone will join too, even single artists can't do this during their peak 
Gaga also have tour gross of 200M to her name
And Grammyswhich she received during her peak
ACCLAIM, TOUR, SINGLES, ALBUM gaga got it all
All other lack one thing or another during their peak but Gaga has it all during all peak
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Originally posted by Evolution
Also her albums never made the top 5 of the best selling albums of the year. She never DOMINATED like Gaga, Mariah and Madonna. She was overshadowed by others..
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...Baby One More Time was the third best-selling album of the year according to Mediatraffic and is only 1M behind Supernatural and Millennium (1M over them according to IFPI estimates).
You were saying?
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lmao how are you gonna compare a tour from an established artist to the debut tour of another? thats like comparing The Fame Ball to California Dreams 
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Gaga fans having to combined an LP and EP to be in discussion for album sales 
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Madonna have great longevity but her peak was no't so big, she don't have a 30M album seller which some of her rivals have
Britney wasn't acclaim and didn't have tour gross to her name
So it between Mariah or Gaga
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Originally posted by Eternium
Katy and Beyonce are in the poll.
And if Gaga's peak was so much bigger globally, why did she move less album equivalents? And please don't come with an excuse about the market. Not only do we account for that with album equivalents, but Gaga's peak is made up of two separate albums and seven singles.
Only Madonna and Mariah had greater longevity than Britney out of this list.
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Ok well obviously her peak is bigger than Beyonce and Katy's
It's not an excuse  the singles market from 2009-2011 was nowhere near as big as the albums market was in the late 90s, so TEAs have no place in the discussion. Comparing Music Box, The Immaculate Collection and The Fame's certifications and placement on year end lists to BOMT's is all the proof needed
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Originally posted by ezra
True Blue and The Fame are way bigger than BOMT. I think even Teenage Dream is a bigger era than BOMT if it weren't for the albums sales being so low.
True Blue: 25 million albums sold (it's one of the biggest albums ever in Europe)
Open Your Heart #1
Live to Tell #1
Papa Don't Preach #1
True Blue #2
La Isla Bonita #4
55M on tour from 38 dates.
Papa Don't Preach got a Best Female Pop Grammy nomination, as well and the album received glowing reviews.
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Baby One More Time: 20 million albums sold mostly from the US / Canada and Europe
Baby One More Time #1
Crazy #10
Sometimes #21
From the Bottom of My Broken Heart #14
BOMT Tour did less than 10M on tour and received mixed reviews.
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27 million*
But slay I guess
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The Fame: 15M albums sold and second only to 21 in terms of Top 20 longevity (see: kworbs chart)
Just Dance #1
Poker Face #1
LoveGame #5
Paparazzi #6
Bad Romance #2
Telephone #3
Alejandro #5
(singles sales add up to more than 50M WW)
227M on tour and received AOTY, ROTY Grammy noms and won several others. Bad Romance took home 7 VMAs in a single night (an MTV record).
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Baby One More Time: 20 million albums sold mostly from the US / Canada and Europe
Baby One More Time #1
Crazy #10
Sometimes #21
From the Bottom of My Broken Heart #14
BOMT Tour did less than 10M on tour and received mixed reviews.
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Originally posted by zoldyck
not people "kii" over The Fame about being the biggest
it is second best selling album after Adele 21 since 2004/2003 (so its easily second biggest of this century since sales were better in 2000-2004)
Poker Face, Just Dance and BadRomance all sold over 10M WW and telephone will join too, even single artists can't do this during their peak
Gaga also have tour gross of 200M to her name
And Grammyswhich she received during her peak
ACCLAIM, TOUR, SINGLES, ALBUM gaga got it all
All other lack one thing or another during their peak but Gaga has it all during all peak |
Her peak is easily the biggest peak of the digital era (she runs circles around Katy and Beyonce), but Madonna, Mariah, and Britney all had bigger peaks.
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Originally posted by zoldyck
Madonna have great longevity but her peak was no't so big, she don't have a 30M album seller which some of her rivals have
Britney wasn't acclaim and didn't have tour gross to her name
So it between Mariah or Gaga
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Only Whitney,Alanis,Celine and Shania have 30M selling albums.
Madonna's best selling album is at 28M and Mariah's best selling is at 27M.(her receipts thread says 26M though)
It's between Madonna and Mariah.
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Lady Gaga, Iconic Global Phenomenon
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Originally posted by Eternium
...Baby One More Time was the third best-selling album of the year according to Mediatraffic and is only 1M behind Supernatural and Millennium (1M over them according to IFPI estimates).
You were saying?
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Her albums did fairly well (its chart run aren't really impressive but still) but everything else falls short when it comes to Britney's peak. Her singles sales, chart positions, chart runs and global stats are not really impressive in comparison to Mariah, Madonna and Gaga.
She was a huge media mogul, but that does not matter.
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Originally posted by hellocory
Her peak is easily the biggest peak of the digital era (she runs circles around Katy and Beyonce), but Madonna, Mariah, and Britney all had bigger peaks.
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Katy and Beyonce biggest albums sale is no where nears Gaga. While 3 females have achived 30M mark from album sale why isn't Madonna one of them?
Britney never had acclaim and tour gross to her but Gaga
Mariah 's peak is biggest followed by Gaga
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Originally posted by ezra
True Blue: 25 million albums sold
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Baby One More Time: 20 million albums sold.
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Originally posted by ezra
The Fame: 15M albums sold and second only to 21 in terms of Top 20 longevity (see: kworbs chart)
Baby One More Time: 20 million albums sold
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Crying @ these fake ass numbers that you're STILL trying to peddle 
...Baby One More Time - 25M (27M IFPI)
True Blue - 23M
The Fame + Monster - 16.4M
And the fact that you want to use Kworb's chart, an iTunes-only chart, to compare albums from the physical age to Gaga's album
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Originally posted by idkher
Ok well obviously her peak is bigger than Beyonce and Katy's
It's not an excuse the singles market from 2009-2011 was nowhere near as big as the albums market was in the late 90s, so TEAs have no place in the discussion. Comparing Music Box, The Immaculate Collection and The Fame's certifications and placement on year end lists to BOMT's is all the proof needed |
That's why we have SEAs. Music consumption is the accurate form of weighing albums according to the IFPI, Billboard, Nielsen Soundscan, the Official Charts Company, etc. Music conversion is just a baseless multiplier given to make current artists seem like they're the most popular that any artists have ever been.
Music Box and TIC outdid ...BOMT. I consider TB to be Madonna's peak just because it was an instant success whereas TIC stalled lower than TB (but has moved considerably more catalog units).
The Fame + Monster has never been bigger than ...BOMT and unless Gaga has some magical career resurgence that really pushes the album, it probably will never be.
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Originally posted by Eternium
Music Box (Mariah) > *The Immaculate Collection (Madonna) > ...Baby One More Time (Britney) > True Blue (Madonna) > The Fame + Monster (Lady Gaga) > Teenage Dream (Katy Perry) = I Am...Sasha Fierce (Beyonce)
I gave Madonna an asterisk because her peak is a compilation album so it didn't really happen at once like the average studio album did.
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Madonna's peak (1990 imo) goes beyond album sales, though. She literally redefined the meaning of a modern pop star with Blond Ambition, "Like A Prayer" (MV) and the "Vogue" dance craze.
     
Why are some posters trying it with anyone other than Mariah is beyond me ...
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Originally posted by Eternium
Crying @ these fake ass numbers that you're STILL trying to peddle
...Baby One More Time - 25M (27M IFPI)
True Blue - 23M
The Fame + Monster - 16.4M
And the fact that you want to use Kworb's chart, an iTunes-only chart, to compare albums from the physical age to Gaga's album
That's why we have SEAs. Music consumption is the accurate form of weighing albums according to the IFPI, Billboard, Nielsen Soundscan, the Official Charts Company, etc. Music conversion is just a baseless multiplier given to make current artists seem like they're the most popular that any artists have ever been.
Music Box and TIC outdid ...BOMT. I consider TB to be Madonna's peak just because it was an instant success whereas TIC stalled lower than TB (but has moved considerably more catalog units).
The Fame + Monster has never been bigger than ...BOMT and unless Gaga has some magical career resurgence that really pushes the album, it probably will never be. |
The Fame stayed on charts longer than BOMT in almost all countries if that is fair comparison to you
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Lady Gaga legend of music ofcourse
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Originally posted by zoldyck
Katy and Beyonce biggest albums sale is no where nears Gaga. While 3 females have achived 30M mark from album sale why isn't Madonna one of them?
Britney never had acclaim and tour gross to her but Gaga
Mariah 's peak is biggest followed by Gaga
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Yes, I said she was bigger than Beyonce and Katy.
Madonna has 3 albums above 20m  That's much better than 1 album above 30m
Concerts grossed MUCH less back in the late 90s/2000s compared to now. Ticket prices were much lower.
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Originally posted by Eternium
And the fact that you want to use Kworb's chart, an iTunes-only chart, to compare albums from the physical age to Gaga's album |
I'm talking about this not his website.
The Fame is way bigger than BOMT. Singles, acclaim, tour > a few extra million copies of an album that hasn't charted in a decade or longer.
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