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Week of the 13th when Upfronts begin. The first post in this thread will have each networks day/timeish of when they will announce their lineups and new shows/trailers
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As of several weeks ago, The New Normal and Go On both looked like solid bets to return, plus likely one multi-camera series. The excitement surrounding the network’s pilots has made those bets not-so-sure.
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NBC needs a major overhaul. I think it's time to get rid of SVU and Parenthood as well. They're both just kind of there. Plus, SVU has run it's course.
I'd like to see them bring on a lot more new shows and use The Voice and Revolution to get them going.
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Week of the 13th when Upfronts begin. The first post in this thread will have each networks day/timeish of when they will announce their lineups and new shows/trailers
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How was TNN ever a sure bet? NBC is such a mess...
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Piece from Variety on some pilots, not much movement so far but this is the final week before the networks make their final choices so this week will be crucial
Where’s the Pilot Pizzazz? Networks Need to Impress
As the upfronts approach, it’s hard to scope out pilot pickup buzz at the major broadcast nets this year because there are few clear heat-seekers.
The big bets of this year’s development crop were made early on in the cycle (last summer and fall) and for the most part have retained their front-runner status: ABC’s “Marvel’s Agents of Shield” with the Whedon clan; CBS’ redo of “Beverly Hills Cop”; NBC’s 22-episode throwdown for the Michael J. Fox domestic laffer; Andy Samberg and Andre Braugher in Fox’s cop comedy “Brooklyn 99″; and the union of David E. Kelley and Robin Williams in CBS’ “Crazy Ones.”
J.J. Abrams has his minimum allotment of two pilots: Fox’s robot-cops vehicle and “Believe” with Alfonso Cuaron at NBC. David Shore is said to be looking promising with ABC drama “Doubt.”
The fuzzy picture for next season’s series pickups will clear up a little this week as the broadcast nets begin their formal pilot screenings. Here’s hoping there is more sizzle on the screen than there seems to be at this stage. The nets need some flash after a ho-hum 2012-13 season.
There are notable in-demand thesps on the pilot roster this year — Toni Collette, Greg Kinnear, Josh Holloway, Debra Messing, Rainn Wilson among them — but not so much in the way of eye-popping, mold-breaking material. Procedural dramas abound, as do ensemble comedies about various combos of thirtysomething friends (“Friends” still casts a looonnng shadow).
Some of the most creative ideas have come in the form of nontraditional casting decisions.
“Office” alum Wilson is set for a dramatic turn as a misanthropic homicide detective in CBS’ “Backstrom” (it’s got a Swedish pedigree so ’nuff said), especially with Dennis Haysbert along for the ride. Christopher Meloni is leaving the serious law-and-order biz for a sitcom turn in Fox’s father-son laffer “I Suck at Girls,” which has good buzz. Wendell Pierce of “The Wire” and “Treme” is lending his mellifluous baritone to the Michael J. Fox sitcom (he’ll have to watch his language on broadcast TV).
CBS has put Beau Bridges, Margo Martindale, J.B. Smoove and Will Arnett under one roof for writer Greg Garcia’s untitled father-son comedy, which has momentum at the Eye. With that cast, who needs a script? Also gaining steam at CBS is comedy “Friends With Better Lives,” an ensembler featuring Kevin Connolly and James Van Der Beek. It is fortified by having been directed by James Burrows, who has a hell of a pilot-pickup track record.
At ABC, Adam Goldberg’s comedy with the colorful but soon-to-change title “How the **** Am I Normal” is hot enough to begin making staffing offers. At Fox there’s a lot of chatter about domestic laffer “The Gabriels” from Justin Hurwitz and Andrew Gurland.
NBC is said to be high on Jason Katims’ spin on “About a Boy.” A sleeper to watch at the Peacock is comedy “Welcome to the Family” from writer Mike Sikowitz, which revolves around a culture clash of white and Latino families brought together by an unplanned pregnancy. Writer DJ Nash’s comedy “Then Came Elvis,” featuring Harold Perrineau and Parker Posey, also has traction at the Peacock.
Drama-wise, ABC is said to be ready to roll on “Lucky 7,” a redo of a British drama about a group of supermarket employees who win the lottery. Fox likes the look of Kinnear as a charming rogue lawyer in “Rake” — a tonal successor to “House,” no doubt.
There are always a few no-brainers. ABC’s “Agents of Shield” drama is getting on the air unless we all wake up on May 14 (the day of ABC’s upfront presentation) in a parallel world where Disney doesn’t control the Marvel Universe. CBS wants Kim Raver in its stable of stars, which bodes well for the “NCIS: Red” spinoff that the network test-drove as a two-episode arc last month.
Chuck Lorre’s Mom, starring Anna Faris and Allison Janney, is pretty much bulletproof at CBS, aided by a great script and swell cast.
I’m not sure what the reviews are yet for CBS’ legal drama “The Advocate,” from “Mentalist” man Bruno Heller, but I’ll be hunting down a screener just to see Ben McKenzie (fresh off a career-making role on “Southland”) work with the always-awesome CCH Pounder.
McG’s ABC drama “Westside” is also a must-obtain, if only to see what haunts he and writer Byron Balasco chose to feature in the drama set among warring families in Venice (California, not Italia). Angelenos, of course, know the beachside hamlet is not actually a city unto itself, but we’ll let that slide for artistic license — just as long as the Warner Bros. TV production doesn’t have telltale traces of Burbank in its backdrops.
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Anna Faris in a tv show?
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Yeah "Mom" is a guaranteed pick up for CBS. I'd be safe calling it an 8:30 pick either Mondays out of HIMYM or Thursdays out of BBT if they decide to expand their Thursday comedy block to 2 hours
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How was TNN ever a sure bet? NBC is such a mess...
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I know, its ratings were horrible
But I like the show anyway so I sort of want it to return, although the season finale would make a good series finale too.
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I feel like someone major is departing Criminal Minds soon, or something is being majorly changed. They never take this long to announce its renewal.
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I feel like someone major is departing Criminal Minds soon, or something is being majorly changed. They never take this long to announce its renewal.
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It's contract negotiations and technical stuff prolonging the announcement. It'll be back 100%, but someone could be departing who knows
Last season Rules of Engagement didn't get a renewal until after upfronts because of the same issue.
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Update on the Criminal Minds delayed pick up
Thomas Gibson & Joe Mantegna Near Deals To Return To ‘Criminal Minds’ But Kirsten Vangsness & A.J. Cook May Not Come Back
CBS’ long-running crime drama Criminal Minds once again is going down to the wire in securing the cast (and in this case a renewal) for next season. I’ve learned that after a long pause in the talks, Criminal Minds stars Thomas Gibson, Joe Mantegna, Shemar Moore, Kirsten Vangsness and A.J. Cook, whose deals are up at the end of this season, received final offers from series producer ABC Studios and CBS on Friday. I hear the studio and network put a clock on the negotiations, which have to conclude by end of day tomorrow for the series to get renewed. I hear leads Gibson and Mantegna, whose re-signing is considered crucial to the the pickup, are close to new agreements, while Moore is deep in negotiations but far apart on the money.
Meanwhile, I hear fan favorite Vangsness and Cook have turned down the offers and, with the clock ticking, it is unclear whether the two would come back next season. I hear the duo, who are negotiating together, have decided to take a stand on the treatment of female cast members on the show as the two have consistently been been paid less than half of what all of their male counterparts — not just stars Gibson and Mantegna — are making. With the new offers again positioning them well below all other cast members, I hear Vangsness and Cook are willing to walk if they don’t get some parity with their co-stars.
ABC Studios and CBS already were taken to task on the way female cast members of Criminal Minds are treated in 2010 when they cut Cook and reduced the episodes of Paget Brewster, leaving Vangsness as the only remaining full-time female cast member. Both Cook and Brewster were subsequently reinstated, in part because of a major fan outcry. In addition to Vangsness and Cook, the current cast of Criminal Minds includes one more female cast member, new addition Jeanne Tripplehorn, who has not developed such a following. Criminal Minds took a step towards a renewal last week when ABC Studios signed a new deal with showrunner Erica Messer. Getting Gibson and Mantegna on board will likely secure a ninth season, but the question is whether it will feature Penelope and J.J.
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No JJ, no Criminal Minds. A ****ing sausage fest mess.
Get rid of Hotch and Rossi, and make JJ and Prentiss the lead characters. **** is getting boring anyway.
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Here are TVBTN's final predictions on renewal chances for next week. They aren't very different from my own predictions
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A few posts coming (Starting with a cable pick up)
TNT Greenlights “The Last Ship”
TNT has greenlit the action-packed drama series The Last Ship, starring Eric Dane (Grey's Anatomy) and executive-produced by blockbuster filmmaker Michael Bay (Transformers). Based on William Brinkley's popular novel, The Last Ship comes to TNT from Bay's Platinum Dunes and its partners, Brad Fuller and Andrew Form, whose credits include upcoming Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Bay, Fuller and Form serve as executive producers, along with showrunner Hank Steinberg (Without a Trace) and Steven Kane (The Closer). Steinberg and Kane wrote the series pilot, which was directed by Jonathan Mostow (U-571).
TNT has ordered 10 episodes of The Last Ship, with plans to launch the series in 2014. The story opens with a global catastrophe that nearly decimates the world's population. Because of its positioning, the Navy destroyer U.S.S. Nathan James avoids falling victim to the devastating tragedy. But now the crew and its captain must confront the reality of their new existence in a world where they may be among the few remaining survivors.
Dane stars as Captain Tom Chandler, a career Navy man who is authoritative and decisive, but also fair and courageous. A born leader and a loving father and husband, Chandler is respected and loved by the men and women under his command. The Last Ship also stars Rhona Mitra (Strike Back) as Rachel Scott, a strong-willed, intelligent and fearless paleomicrobiologist assigned to the Nathan James to investigate the cause of billions of deaths worldwide. Adam Baldwin (Firefly, CHUCK) is Slattery, the ship's second-in-command who worries deeply about his family and occasionally clashes with Dane's Captain Chandler over the best course of action. And Tracy Middendorf (Boardwalk Empire, Mission: Impossible III) plays Darien Chandler, the captain's wife.
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Upfronts Pregame Analysis: NBC Is Out of Fourth Place But Not Out of Trouble
Here we go: The perennial May TV ritual known as the upfronts returns Monday, when the broadcast networks will once again trot out a slew of new shows and reveal their freshly remodeled fall prime-time schedules. This year's ritual comes at the end of a disastrous, possibly tipping-point season for the networks, one in which nearly every returning show declined in the ratings and cable (joined by streaming outlets such as Netflix) continued to grab viewers and buzz. The major networks (except for CBS, which seems to exist in an alternate Nielsen universe) are not just fighting among themselves or cable; they're practically battling to stay relevant. Still, at least for now, broadcast TV commands a significant audience, making Upfront Week mightily important. That's why, as always, Vulture will be knee-deep in the hoopla and hype, delivering you our instant verdict on the new schedules, serving up the first video clips of the just-green-lit series, and taking you inside the myriad presentations and parties. Critic Matt Zoller Seitz will also post his first impressions of the new crop of shows. It's a lot to take in, so all this week, before we head into May Madness, we'll be giving you our annual assessment of each of the Big Four broadcasters. (As always, no CW report since, like cable networks, it operates on a completely different business model built around vampires and Netflix. Really!) Each scorecard will tell you how the respective networks performed during the 2012-13 season, which pilots are already sparking buzz, the biggest individual headaches bedeviling them, and what they need to do next season to either improve or, at the very least, not plummet even lower. First up: NBC, which once again finds itself hoping that better days are just around the corner.
Where It Stands
We've written about NBC's woes before, at length. There's just no way to call the 2012-13 season a good one for the Peacock, nor would it be wise to ignore the many obstacles blocking the network from a return to glory. And yet: NBC did have some notable triumphs this season, victories that the network will rightly tout to advertisers next week. The biggest, of course, is the remarkable performance of The Voice: Not only did the singing competition survive NBC's decision to air the show twice per season, but it also arguably grew stronger. It's now clearly pulled ahead of Fox's American Idol to become the No. 1 unscripted show on TV among adults under 50. That will translate into a significant cash infusion over the summer, when NBC starts selling time to advertisers. And while NBC's overall ratings are down versus last season (by about 4 percent), in part because it had the Super Bowl in 2012, that's about the same decline as CBS and notably less than the slippage for ABC and Fox. Also, despite the perception that it's in last place, NBC actually ended up ahead of ABC last season and stands a good chance of doing so this year. It's also now just one tenth of a ratings point behind second-place Fox among viewers under 50. A big part of this change has been because of the doubling of the amount of The Voice. But it also helped that returning scripted shows Grimm and Parenthood were among just a handful of veteran shows on any network to build audience this season. (Smash, not so much.)
Where NBC faltered this year was in launching successful new shows. Revolution isn't doing horribly this spring, but it's down sharply from the fall and has zero buzz. It's been renewed anyway, as has newcomer Chicago Fire, whose performance on Wednesdays is in some ways more impressive than Revolution: Its ratings are notably lower, but the Dick Wolf drama doesn't have the massive benefit of following The Voice. Comedies Go On and The New Normal did only okay behind The Voice and completely tanked once the show went on hiatus in the winter. And everything NBC has debuted since the beginning of 2013 has bottomed out. (Even Hannibal, which had a glimmer of hope its first few weeks on the air, has collapsed in the overnight ratings — though the show is doing better once DVR data is factored in, so perhaps it might return.) Of course, NBC's other broadcast competitors have also had rough seasons, so it's not as if the Peacock is doing worse than its rivals. But NBC needs to be doing better than staying on par with others. It needed to emerge with undeniable new hits this season, and it didn't. But hey, how about The Voice?!
Buzziest Prospects
Vulture broke the news last summer that Michael J. Fox was returning to TV in a sitcom, and nearly a year later, that project — tentatively (but not cleverly) titled The Michael J. Fox Show — is contractually guaranteed a spot on NBC's lineup. And while last year NBC passed on a new project from The Office boss Greg Daniels, they did order a half-hour from him starring Office alum Craig Robinson that's been getting lots of mentions in the Hollywood trades for weeks; given NBC's love for all things Lorne Michaels right now, it's also worth keeping an eye on a half-hour from Michaels starring stand-up John Mulaney. (Deadline Hollywood, however, called both pilots "dark horses" late last week). On the drama front, Deadline has called Blacklist, in which James Spader plays a criminal mastermind now working for the Feds, "super-hot." Any show from J.J. Abrams these days is a strong contender for a series berth, which makes NBC's Believe (about a girl with special gifts, and the ex-con trying to protect her) a favorite for the fall. And the fact that NBC let word leak out that it's considering a spinoff of Chicago Fire is a sign that such a show has a good shot; otherwise, why endure all of the bad PR about doubling down on a mediocre show? Expect NBC to also spend a chunk of its upfront touting Tonight Show–host-in-waiting Jimmy Fallon and its upcoming live production of The Sound of Music (starring Carrie Underwood).
Biggest Headache
What to do with its once-iconic Thursday lineup? The Office won't be on NBC's schedule next fall, depriving the network of its biggest comedy hit and longtime Thursday night anchor. (It's dropped sharply in the ratings since Steve Carell left, but it's still outperforming every other scripted show on the network, save for Revolution.) We love Parks and Recreation, but ratings-wise, it's no Office. It's possible that NBC will try to build a new lineup around the Michael J. Fox comedy, maybe even renewing Matthew Perry's Go On and relocating it to Thursdays in order to create a Ghosts of "Must-See TV" Past on the night. But with CBS and ABC boasting far stronger Thursday tentpoles (The Big Bang Theory and Scandal/Grey's Anatomy, respectively), perhaps the Peacock finally goes a different direction on the night. What if The Voice, now that it's bigger than Idol, were to shift to a Wednesday-Thursday schedule? It would certainly shake things up (and possibly deliver a death blow to Simon Cowell's buzz-free The X Factor). And NBC could try to launch Fox's show Thursdays at nine in late fall, behind its one-hour edition of The Voice.
Bottom Line
Barack Obama got elected for a second term despite a sluggish economy at least in part because the alternative (Mitt Romney, in case you've forgotten about him already) was deemed by many Americans to be unacceptable. NBC is in really bad shape, and we remain worried about its long-term future as a traditional broadcast network. But the one thing it has going for it is that its rivals all have plenty of headaches, too (even CBS). As long as everyone else is struggling mightily, NBC's misery at least has company.
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Upfronts Pregame Analysis: Is ABC in Danger of Becoming the New NBC?
The broadcast networks take the wraps off their new lineups next week, which means it's a good time to catch up on how they've been doing this season. (Short answer: horribly.) Yesterday, we kicked off our annual assessments with NBC, discovering a few reasons for hope at the long-suffering Peacock. Today, it's time to turn our gaze to ABC, whose biggest victory may end up being the emergence of Scandal as the biggest watercooler network soap opera in years (with Twitter filling in for the cooler, of course). Unfortunately, just like last season, ABC also wasted a whole lot of money on a crop of new shows that largely went nowhere.
Where It Stands
While NBC has become synonymous with "struggling" and Fox has taken a media beating for the sharp decline of American Idol (after more than a decade in which the show dominated), ABC takes few punches from those of us who cover television. And yet: The network is poised to finish in fourth place for the second consecutive season among adults under 50. Its overall ratings in that demo are down about 8 percent (double NBC's 4 percent dip). Dancing With the Stars has actually fallen faster than Idol, with this season's ratings decline pushing 30 percent. And ABC's biggest hit from last season, Once Upon a Time, has dropped nearly 10 percent versus its freshman year. What's more, despite debuting a dozen new shows, the network has little to show for it. Nashville does okay on Wednesdays (and will likely be back), but everything else — Zero Hour, Red Widow, 666 Park Avenue — tanked. ABC banished Happy Endings from Wednesdays, possibly killing its once-promising comedy, but none of the other new shows it aired on that night (The Neighbors, How to Live with Your Parents for the Rest of Your Life, Family Tools) have broken out.
Still, all is not doom and gloom at the Alphabet network. Not at all. It's important to note that the only reason NBC beats ABC is because the Peacock pays crazy sums of money to broadcast NFL football on Sundays, giving the network a (very expensive) Nielsen boost. Take out sports, and suddenly ABC is 10 percent ahead of NBC. The network also does very well with upscale viewers (those with four or more years of college who make more than $100,000 a year), airing 10 of the 30 top shows in this demo. Scandal has taken off this season, giving ABC an eventual successor to the aging (but still high-rated) Grey's Anatomy. And while Modern Family is down double digits this season, it's still a very strong performer on Wednesdays. ABC also deserves props for growing the audience for two reality franchises, The Bachelor and Shark Tank, both of which were up double digits in a season where almost everything was down.
Buzz Shows
Despite shrinking ratings for Once Upon a Time, ABC seems poised to bet big on genre shows next season. Joss Whedon's Marvel Comics series S.H.I.E.L.D. appears to be a slam dunk, while it's likely the Alphabet will green-light a Once spinoff set in Wonderland. Deadline has also been touting Betrayal, in which Hannah Ware plays a woman who has an affair with the lawyer for a powerful family (sadly, not the powerful family in ABC's Revenge). Comedy-wise, ABC would love to be able to put on a half-hour starring buzz magnet Rebel Wilson (Super Fun Night, originally developed at CBS).
Biggest Headache
Dancing With the Stars has been a reliable Monday-Tuesday tentpole for years, but the oxygen has completely gone out of the show. Unless it actually manages to cast real stars, or convinces Reese Witherspoon to compete, it seems unlikely that DWTS will return to super-hit status in the very near future. Though the show's not likely to be canceled anytime soon (it still brings in a large number of older viewers), it'll be interesting to see if ABC decides to cut DWTS back to once a year, perhaps shifting it to later in the season.
Bottom Line
ABC has plenty of issues, but unlike NBC, it still has a decent-size mix of big hits (Modern Family, Scandal, Once) and modest successes (The Middle, Shark Tank) throughout the week that can help it launch new shows. If ABC gets a home run or two out of its new development, and if it can keep the momentum going for Scandal, grow Nashville, and convince viewers to try a revamped Revenge (creator Mike Kelley is departing), then ABC could easily bounce back next season.
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PILOT SEASON: The Rise Of Limited Series
Days after last year’s upfront in New York, History‘s Hatfields & McCoys burst onto the scene, shattering ratings records and reviving the limited-event series form. Over the last 12 months, event series have continued to gain momentum, with History launching another blockbuster in The Bible, and Fox, FX and Spike announcing big pushes in the arena. The genre also has been factoring into the network’s ongoing pilot discussions and may have presence at the upfronts next week. “It seems to be the du jour concept these days,” one industry insider said. “If you call a drama a limited event series, you maintain series options on the actors while at the same time maintain the project’s international value. And if you market them well, they bring in audience.”
One of the highest-profile drama prospects for next season, ABC’s Once Upon A Time spinoff, has been developed as a limited series to air 13-episode arcs every season in the vein of FX’s American Horror Story. Such a potential scenario also has been mentioned for a number of other serialized/high-concept drama pilots should they get a series order: ABC’s Gothica and Big Thunder, Fox’s Sleepy Hollow and CBS’ Hostages. CBS already is branching into the genre this coming summer with Under The Dome, originally developed as a regular series. The CW, whose president Mark Pedowitz last season was among the first to embrace the concept, did midseason entry Cult as a limited-type series and is looking to do more next season, with The Selection among those considered for a limited run. Fox’s The Following and ABC’s Red Widow too had been conceived with cable-style shorter seasons in mind.
Limited series have become an increasingly enticing proposition for the broadcast networks as they have seen ratings for drama repeats, even on the top procedurals, plummet over the past few years. With traditional drama series not capable of producing more than 22-24 episodes for the 35-week broadcast season, networks are looking for ways to stay in originals, and limited series appear like a viable alternative to bridge the 13-week gap. The Once Upon A Time spinoff could relieve the mothership series, and the CW is exploring a potential “royal wheel” with Reign and The Selection, which is in the mix though not as hot as Tomorrow People, Reign and The 100.
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Also a bit of exciting possible news. Variety is saying that FOX could start ordering shows to series starting as early as tomorrow and NBC could possibly start ordering new series starting Friday with ABC and CBS possibly this weekend.
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