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Single: Ke$ha - "Die Young"
Member Since: 12/16/2010
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Rihanna this Rihanna that
This thread is just Rihanna- Diamonds 2.0
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Originally posted by B2R4D
I don't want to get on the bad side of the #RihannaNavy to be honest. I'm not going to comment. #thuglife  |
It's not about getting on anyone's bad side. It's just stating an opinion.
For one to argue saying that Die Young is a "safe choice" to ensure that an artist wont' flop is a sad move in the music industry. Ke$ha has fans, and people tend to pay her digital's more attention. Ke$ha should have more FAITH in herself to not release something so generic. Ya'll can remain delusional all you want, but if this was Ke$ha's DEBUT single as an artist, you wouldn't be that impressed. Die Young is a very poor song, will it do well still? Time will tell.
If Ke$ha truly does have better material on Warrior, that's great, but to take a safe route that "fans" claim isn't pushing her as an artist and she's only remaining complacent.
Rihanna's Diamonds, is a RISK. The public doesn't want ballad Rihanna but still Rihanna knows she has to keep pushing herself and not limit herself. She rebounds, that shows resilience in such a tough industry when in turn, anyone can you do your job at the drop of a dime.
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Member Since: 4/24/2011
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Originally posted by Tra.cëë
I hope so. I mean, but if her label doesn't have faith in Ke$ha to release fresh new material, then we should question her ARTISTRY. Seriously, I love Ke$ha, but this song was and will be the worst thing on Warrior I'm sure. To me, RISKS are what makes an artist better. Something obviously isn't right with her label...
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She has been off the music scen for one and a half years, i think if they released something risky this early it would be detrimental to her career. I agree with you, i think Die Young will be one of my least favorites from the album but i understand why they chose to release it
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Member Since: 9/9/2012
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Originally posted by Tra.cëë
It's not about getting on anyone's bad side. It's just stating an opionion.
For one to argue saying that Die Young is a "safe choice" to ensure that an artist wont' flop is a sad move in the music industry. Ke$ha has fans, and people tend to pay her digital's more attention. Ke$ha should have more FAITH in herself to not release something so generic. Ya'll can remain delusional all you want, but if this was Ke$ha's DEBUT single as an artist, you wouldn't be that impressed. Die Young is a very poor song, will it do well still? Time will tell.
If Ke$ha truly does have better material on Warrior, that's great, but to take a safe route that "fans" claim isn't pushing her as an artist and she's only remaining complacent.
Rihanna's Diamonds, is a RISK. The public doesn't want ballad Rihanna but still Rihanna knows she has to keep pushing herself and not limit herself. She rebounds, that shows resilience in such a tough industry when in turn, anyone can you do your job at the drop of a dime.
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I'm a fan of Rihanna and all, but for you to be here talking like she's never done it......girrrrrrr.
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Member Since: 1/31/2012
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Where is it on Amazon.
You bitches lied 
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Member Since: 12/3/2010
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wow, i would've thought rihanna would be 1 by now. ke$ha's hanging  I like both songs, just sayin!
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Member Since: 9/13/2011
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Originally posted by Tra.cëë
It's not about getting on anyone's bad side. It's just stating an opinion.
For one to argue saying that Die Young is a "safe choice" to ensure that an artist wont' flop is a sad move in the music industry. Ke$ha has fans, and people tend to pay her digital's more attention. Ke$ha should have more FAITH in herself to not release something so generic. Ya'll can remain delusional all you want, but if this was Ke$ha's DEBUT single as an artist, you wouldn't be that impressed. Die Young is a very poor song, will it do well still? Time will tell.
If Ke$ha truly does have better material on Warrior, that's great, but to take a safe route that "fans" claim isn't pushing her as an artist and she's only remaining complacent.
Rihanna's Diamonds, is a RISK. The public doesn't want ballad Rihanna but still Rihanna knows she has to keep pushing herself and not limit herself. She rebounds, that shows resilience in such a tough industry when in turn, anyone can you do your job at the drop of a dime.
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Okay. I agree with the bulk of this post, except for when you said "Die Young is a very poor song."
You have to realise that your opinion does not equate to being factual, nor does anyone else's.
There are people that don't like "Diamonds" either. Does that make it a poor song though? No.
See the logic. Just be respectful to the fact that everyone has different tastes in music, otherwise you will look hypocritical when calling Ke$ha's song "poor", while getting mad at other people because they deem Rihanna's new single "poor" also.
It just doesn't make sense for people to hate on one song, but getting mad at others for doing the exact same thing with another song. See what I mean?
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Member Since: 12/23/2010
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Originally posted by iHypeMusic
I'm a fan of Rihanna and all, but for you to be here talking like she's never done it......girrrrrrr.
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Rih has done it before, but WFL, OG, which seem to be the one's your talking about STOOD OUT. At the time of each release, could you point out another song on radio at the time that sounded almost identical to it?
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Member Since: 8/4/2012
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Originally posted by Tra.cëë
It's not about getting on anyone's bad side. It's just stating an opinion.
For one to argue saying that Die Young is a "safe choice" to ensure that an artist wont' flop is a sad move in the music industry. Ke$ha has fans, and people tend to pay her digital's more attention. Ke$ha should have more FAITH in herself to not release something so generic. Ya'll can remain delusional all you want, but if this was Ke$ha's DEBUT single as an artist, you wouldn't be that impressed. Die Young is a very poor song, will it do well still? Time will tell.
If Ke$ha truly does have better material on Warrior, that's great, but to take a safe route that "fans" claim isn't pushing her as an artist and she's only remaining complacent.
Rihanna's Diamonds, is a RISK. The public doesn't want ballad Rihanna but still Rihanna knows she has to keep pushing herself and not limit herself. She rebounds, that shows resilience in such a tough industry when in turn, anyone can you do your job at the drop of a dime.
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I understand what you're saying I really do and there is some truth but it is what it is, but one thing though is that Rihanna hasn't gone anywhere so the GP is more accepting, of this anthem type ballad. In K$ defense she's been gone for a minute she toured and last single was "Blow" in early 2011.
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Member Since: 12/23/2010
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Originally posted by B2R4D
Okay. I agree with the bulk of this post, except for when you said "Die Young is a very poor song."
You have to realise that your opinion does not equate to being factual, nor does anyone else's.
There are people that don't like "Diamonds" either. Does that make it a poor song though? No.
See the logic. Just be respectful to the fact that everyone has different tastes in music, otherwise you will look hypocritical when calling Ke$ha's song "poor", while getting mad at other people because they deem Rihanna's new single "poor" also.
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I agree. What I meant to say, was poor as in the production is very similar to Good Feeling. Especially after some of the hype about how this song would incorporate some better elements, it was a let down. I apologize.
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Member Since: 9/9/2012
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Rihanna is my 3rd most played artist, with Ke$ha behind at 4th.
Honestly from someone who loves them BOTH, I feel Ke$ha has done better.
This new single is an ANTHEM, whether it's same 'ol generic or not, it's the fact she released something that was anticipated!
Ke$ha is about 300 plays behind from Rihanna in my library with only 1 album, an EP, and 1 single from Warrior.
Rihanna is now on releasing her 7th album soon, and even Diamonds feels lack-luster to me.
Rihanna has something on the radio every month, so for you to come at Ke$ha and her trying to rely on any kind of music for sales is a mess.
Rihanna singles don't do that well anymore, because the pure fact they overlap each other basically, and she's getting real old music wise everywhere.
Whether Ke$ha's new song is generic or not, she took the time for us to actually anticipate something and put it together for herself, something Rihanna hasn't done in a while.
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Member Since: 12/23/2010
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Originally posted by CroNich
She has been off the music scen for one and a half years, i think if they released something risky this early it would be detrimental to her career. I agree with you, i think Die Young will be one of my least favorites from the album but i understand why they chose to release it
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Originally posted by BlooRiverAnimal
I understand what you're saying I really do and there is some truth but it is what it is, but one thing though is that Rihanna hasn't gone anywhere so the GP is more accepting, of this anthem type ballad. In K$ defense she's been gone for a minute she toured and last single was "Blow" in early 2011.
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YES. I do understand, but Ke$ha left on a good standing. She left the public with a hit. I just wish she could've gone with something more fresh and something that wouldn't be as generic. I know she can, Ke$ha is an amazing talent. But, Die Young doesn't display that for me at all.
With this being her 2nd album, this is really her MAKE IT OR BREAK IT time. She has to deliver.
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Member Since: 4/24/2011
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Originally posted by Tra.cëë
It's not about getting on anyone's bad side. It's just stating an opinion.
For one to argue saying that Die Young is a "safe choice" to ensure that an artist wont' flop is a sad move in the music industry. Ke$ha has fans, and people tend to pay her digital's more attention. Ke$ha should have more FAITH in herself to not release something so generic. Ya'll can remain delusional all you want, but if this was Ke$ha's DEBUT single as an artist, you wouldn't be that impressed. Die Young is a very poor song, will it do well still? Time will tell.
If Ke$ha truly does have better material on Warrior, that's great, but to take a safe route that "fans" claim isn't pushing her as an artist and she's only remaining complacent.
Rihanna's Diamonds, is a RISK. The public doesn't want ballad Rihanna but still Rihanna knows she has to keep pushing herself and not limit herself. She rebounds, that shows resilience in such a tough industry when in turn, anyone can you do your job at the drop of a dime.
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It's not poor. You just don't like it.
I won't argue with you anymore, it's not worth it
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Member Since: 9/13/2011
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Originally posted by Tra.cëë
I agree. What I meant to say, was poor as in the production is very similar to Good Feeling. Especially after some of the hype about how this song would incorporate some better elements, it was a let down. I apologize.
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Did you mean to say that the production wasn't new or innovative? It can't really be poor, because Dr. Luke is a mastermind and he is great at what he does. The actual quality of the production is at a very high standard. Not any random on the street could craft a pop song like that. I think what you mean to say, is that it doesn't sound fresh?
Let me ask you this question though. If there was never a "Good Feeling",
would you still hold the same views on this song?
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Member Since: 12/23/2010
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Originally posted by iHypeMusic
Rihanna is my 3rd most played artist, with Ke$ha behind at 4th.
Honestly from someone who loves them BOTH, I feel Ke$ha has done better.
This new single is an ANTHEM, whether it's same 'ol generic or not, it's the fact she released something that was anticipated!
Ke$ha is about 300 plays behind from Rihanna in my library with only 1 album, an EP, and 1 single from Warrior.
Rihanna is now on releasing her 7th album soon, and even Diamonds feels lack-luster to me.
Rihanna has something on the radio every month, so for you to come at Ke$ha and her trying to rely on any kind of music for sales is a mess.
Rihanna singles don't do that well anymore, because the pure fact they overlap each other basically, and she's getting real old music wise everywhere.
Whether Ke$ha's new song is generic or not, she took the time for us to actually anticipate something and put it together for herself, something Rihanna hasn't done in a while.
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OPINION. Cause Rih has proved time and time again that she can over-saturate the market and still pull out a multiple week #1 and sales on averaging 3+ million and above.
Die Young is a nice song. Is it something that will get ppl out of their seats to buy her new album? Idk, that's up to them, but for me, NO. I need to hear something more. It shows no sense of direction with Die Young. I don't wanna buy "Animal" again you see what I'm saying. Warrior should be a whole new body of work.
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Originally posted by B2R4D
Is it just me, or are people being a little overdramatic with the song? People are making it out to be some recycled turd, when it's actually a really well produced song. Yeah, it has some elements of "Good Feeling" in it, but that doesn't make it bad. The chorus especially showcases something new from Ke$ha. She has never really brought that acoustic, folky element into play. Even the electronic production is different. It's more eurodance, and less dance-pop. It's the verses which are typical.
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This completely.. she really made it her own! there might be elements of others, but there are some unique qualities about this song.. the chorus for sure.. the little drum beats and the chanting breakdown.. I LOVE THIS SONG!!!!
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Originally posted by Tra.cëë
It's not about getting on anyone's bad side. It's just stating an opinion.
For one to argue saying that Die Young is a "safe choice" to ensure that an artist wont' flop is a sad move in the music industry. Ke$ha has fans, and people tend to pay her digital's more attention. Ke$ha should have more FAITH in herself to not release something so generic. Ya'll can remain delusional all you want, but if this was Ke$ha's DEBUT single as an artist, you wouldn't be that impressed. Die Young is a very poor song, will it do well still? Time will tell.
If Ke$ha truly does have better material on Warrior, that's great, but to take a safe route that "fans" claim isn't pushing her as an artist and she's only remaining complacent.
Rihanna's Diamonds, is a RISK. The public doesn't want ballad Rihanna but still Rihanna knows she has to keep pushing herself and not limit herself. She rebounds, that shows resilience in such a tough industry when in turn, anyone can you do your job at the drop of a dime.
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THERE IS SO MUCH HYPOCRISY HERE GEEZ LOUIS
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Originally posted by Tra.cëë
Rih has done it before, but WFL, OG, which seem to be the one's your talking about STOOD OUT. At the time of each release, could you point out another song on radio at the time that sounded almost identical to it?
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HELL NO... Only Girl sounded like everything else and was bland and safe... We Found Love was a good choice but still was safe!
Die Young is safe and has elements of others, but is different to what Ke$ha did before..
You have your opinion, but let's not try and make it facts now please.. Now shoo shoo if all you want to do it talk about rihanna
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Member Since: 12/23/2010
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Originally posted by B2R4D
Did you mean to say that the production wasn't new or innovative? It can't really be poor, because Dr. Luke is a mastermind and he is great at what he does. The actual quality of the production is at a very high standard. Not any random on the street could craft a pop song like that. I think what you mean to say, is that it doesn't sound fresh?
Let me ask you this question though. If there was never a "Good Feeling",
would you still hold the same views on this song?
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Okay, yes, the production is HIGH but I guess the comparison is what gets the most. If there wasn't a Good Feeling, I'd probably like the song more. But it still sounds so close to stuff she's done. I kinda wanted something different. I was looking forward to her folk song or something.
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Member Since: 6/6/2012
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Originally posted by Tra.cëë
It's not about getting on anyone's bad side. It's just stating an opinion.
For one to argue saying that Die Young is a "safe choice" to ensure that an artist wont' flop is a sad move in the music industry. Ke$ha has fans, and people tend to pay her digital's more attention. Ke$ha should have more FAITH in herself to not release something so generic. Ya'll can remain delusional all you want, but if this was Ke$ha's DEBUT single as an artist, you wouldn't be that impressed. Die Young is a very poor song, will it do well still? Time will tell.
If Ke$ha truly does have better material on Warrior, that's great, but to take a safe route that "fans" claim isn't pushing her as an artist and she's only remaining complacent.
Rihanna's Diamonds, is a RISK. The public doesn't want ballad Rihanna but still Rihanna knows she has to keep pushing herself and not limit herself. She rebounds, that shows resilience in such a tough industry when in turn, anyone can you do your job at the drop of a dime.
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First of all, if you like that your fave takes risks, that's just your opinion. I would HATE if Ke$ha released a ballad/midtempo as a lead single in spite of it being original or not.
Rihanna is VERY strong in the music market. She's not only a single-seller power, but also a powerful album seller. I just admit it. And I still gotta say Ke$ha is not really potential regarding album sales, only singles, mainly digital copies. That's why she can't be so risky in her lead single... She must guarantee the success of the beginning of her new era and then she may experiment more with her next singles.
I still find Ke$ha's music original... I just like her sticking to her trash dance electropop music. I'm even worried about some Warrior's tracks, like the one with Iggy Pop and all the things she said about her "rock roots", besides working with Wayne Coyne  . I just hate it and I'm not here for that. When 'Die Young' came out, it was like a relief to me, because it was pop, and nothing like people described. ("folky, hippy, alternative, etc.")
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Member Since: 4/24/2011
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Originally posted by jeeriz
Rihanna this Rihanna that
This thread is just Rihanna- Diamonds 2.0
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Am I supposed to laugh?
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Member Since: 12/23/2010
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Originally posted by Yourfavefan
This completely.. she really made it her own! there might be elements of others, but there are some unique qualities about this song.. the chorus for sure.. the little drum beats and the chanting breakdown.. I LOVE THIS SONG!!!!
THERE IS SO MUCH HYPOCRISY HERE GEEZ LOUIS
HELL NO... Only Girl sounded like everything else and was bland and safe... We Found Love was a good choice but still was safe!
Die Young is safe and has elements of others, but is different to what Ke$ha did before..
You have your opinion, but let's not try and make it facts now please.. Now shoo shoo if all you want to do it talk about rihanna
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I don't wanna talk about Rihanna, I was simply replying to a fellow Ke$ha stan in a harmless comparsion. I respect both artist. and You still didn't give me a song that sounded like OG and WFL Wasn't safe. Nothing on radio sounded like WFL and still doesnt. WFL was different even it was a risk, with the repetition of lyrics but enough on that.
Opinion, we all have one. I just want Ke$ha to come HARDER with her 2nd single!
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