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Discussion: What's your stance on...? #46: Organ Donation
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Originally posted by remeese
I am learning about China/East Asia countries in Geography.
It's a hell of a lot better than crappy North Korea. :sleepcow:
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Cool. 
and  at :sleepcow it's supposed to be  lol
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Cool.
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Same ****, boo. 
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Originally posted by NE.
Most of the medications, skin care products, etc. used in every day life had to be tested on something. There are plenty of squirrels and bunny rabbits to go around. There is only one of each human. So are you saying we should risk testing it on a human being, which could result in their death? Please. Put that **** on an animal ASAP.
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Woah, I just can't even believe this. Maybe you don't hold them to the same level as humans, but that doesn't mean you should show complete disregard for their lives. They are not automatons for us to simply exploit and abuse. And doesn't it scare you that we're making products with the potential to kill us in the first place?
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It's undeniable that China has become a world superpower. And for all its domestic problems, that's not going to slow down its economic or political ascent. But I do worry for the citizens somewhat; there is little regard for the environment, free speech is suppressed, ethnic minorities are often mistreated, etc.
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Originally posted by supaspaz
It's undeniable that China has become a world superpower. And for all its domestic problems, that's not going to slow down its economic or political ascent. But I do worry for the citizens somewhat; there is little regard for the environment, free speech is suppressed, ethnic minorities are often mistreated, etc.
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Agree. 
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Idk how I feel about the animal rights subject, I mean obviously these animals weren't put on this earth to be tested on. Then again, sorry bunny, but I'd rather have an animal die then a human. :/
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i love their small eyes! 
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Originally posted by NE.
 at these overly liberal and hippie views.
I think alot of people like animals because they don't talk, they are easily to manipulate, and they are usually friendly (assuming they are domesticated). Humans are different from animals because we have personal desires instead of only needs. Animals only go by internal instinct. No matter how much these radical animal-lovers are, at the end of the day, if it were to come down to it, they would understand that animals are nowhere close to importance than people.
I think animals should be treated with respect. I think it's important not to throw trash in the ocean, etc. but I do NOT think animals come before humans. I think it's ridiculous when people say they shouldn't be used for product testing. Most of the medications, skin care products, etc. used in every day life had to be tested on something. There are plenty of squirrels and bunny rabbits to go around. There is only one of each human. So are you saying we should risk testing it on a human being, which could result in their death? Please. Put that **** on an animal ASAP. |
I'll test a deathly product on you
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Love the opinions on China. This is a great thread.
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Been learning Mandarin Chinese for almost two years. My first teacher was from Taiwan, and the current one studied in Mainland China for a long time, essentially different perspectives. All I know is that it is a beautiful country with friendly people and a rich 5,000-year-old history but with a **** government. It is, indeed, a potential global power, however, we shouldn't jump into conclusions so soon. For example, back in the 1980's many thought that Japan would be a global power by now and look at what happened after the collapse of the asset price bubble in the 1990's. The same it is currently happening in China, so you never know.
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Originally posted by Alexz
Love the opinions on China. This is a great thread.
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Thank you
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Originally posted by !!!
Been learning Mandarin Chinese for almost two years. My first teacher was from Taiwan, and the current one studied in Mainland China for a long time, essentially different perspectives. All I know is that it is a beautiful country with friendly people and a rich 5,000-year-old history but with a **** government. It is, indeed, a potential global power, however, we shouldn't jump into conclusions so soon. For example, back in the 1980's many thought that Japan would be a global power by now and look at what happened after the collapse of the asset price bubble in the 1990's. The same it is currently happening in China, so you never know.
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Cool. I would still consider Japan a Global Power.... it still has the 3rd highest economy in the world, and still exports many items.... It has enormous companies (sony, nintendo, mitsubishi, honda.... etc.) I think Japan is still a major power even after the 1990's "collapse" it has recovered alot since then.
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I still consider Japan a major player in the global scene, it's not like it faded into obscurity after the collapse of the bubble but it is certainly in decline. With an ageing population (nearly a quarter is aged 65 or over), unfriendly immigration policies, a sclerotic labour market (lifetime jobs are so in the past) and an economy trapped in deflation and low growth for two decades, the future just doesn't seem bright. Not to mention that Japan is being challenged by China and South Korea in almost every field regionally. Japan is no longer the success story that it once was, sadly.
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Originally posted by !!!
I still consider Japan a major player in the global scene, it's not like it faded into obscurity after the collapse of the bubble but it is certainly in decline. With an ageing population (nearly a quarter is aged 65 or over), unfriendly immigration policies, a sclerotic labour market (lifetime jobs are so in the past) and an economy trapped in deflation and low growth for two decades, the future just doesn't seem bright. Not to mention that Japan is being challenged by China and South Korea in almost every field regionally. Japan is no longer the success story that it once was, sadly.
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True. I think their technological abilities are light years ahead of China and noticeably ahead of South Korea's though... There recent advancements in robotics have been amazing but of course this will not bring them major economic capital unless they mass produce these robots for world use. I believe they are down but not out (at least for the time being).
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I think Japan will continue to being an economic force in Asia despite lags and aberrations. China, although have already overridden Japan's economy as the world's 2nd largest economy, will still have a longshot at being a leader in the worldwide scale. China is the largest creditor country and it's traditional values will play a minor but significant role in slowing down the progress of China, plus environmental factors etc. Japan on the other hand is also showing signs of recovery and is very a staunch front runner of environment friendly innovations.
China is a sleeping giant that is slowly waking, no doubt.
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Originally posted by arkl
I think Japan will continue to being an economic force in Asia despite lags and aberrations. China, although have already overridden Japan's economy as the world's 2nd largest economy, will still have a longshot at being a leader in the worldwide scale. China is the largest creditor country and it's traditional values will play a minor but significant role in slowing down the progress of China, plus environmental factors etc. Japan on the other hand is also showing signs of recovery and is very a staunch front runner of environment friendly innovations.
China is a sleeping giant that is slowly waking, no doubt.
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Agree. China is definitely a sleeping giant that is slowly waking. And Agree that Japan is recovering 
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I think they need political reforms. This could be a dumb statement, but it's really scaring for me to picture a world where the most important superpower (if they ever overtake the US) is authoritarian with their own citizens.
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Originally posted by Rafael.
I think they need political reforms. This could be a dumb statement, but it's really scaring for me to picture a world where the most important superpower (if they ever overtake the US) is authoritarian with their own citizens.
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I can see your point 
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Oh, **** me. I missed the animal rights one. 
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