[LuLuDrops]

Any of you gorls thinking of traveling 2018 or after will need more than ID to fly (on top of voting )

[Lord Blackout]

I think Clinton is halfway between Kerry and Obama. More popular than Kerry but rejected by enough people not to be comparable to Obama. The NoDAPL people didn't support her. The BlackLivesMatter folks didn't trust her. The #FightFor15 people rejected her realistic stance on the issue and the #NoFracking folks wouldn't settle for her solution. Shame because those people only failed themselves. Now all of those movement have 8 years to survive which is unlikely so it's safe to call them all failures. American leftists are allergic to smart strategy JFC

[Lord Blackout]

Stronger Together is no different than Hope. People only accepted one tho.

MAGA was some psychological **** though. It really resonated with certain people who wanted to MAGA if you know what I mean and PoC who were dumb enough to think they had a seat in the table.

[lilostolemycoke]

Originally posted by LuLuDrops

Any of you gorls thinking of traveling 2018 or after will need more than ID to fly (on top of voting )

do these states not require adequate documentation to get an ID?

i know florida has very strict rules when getting an ID. you basically need the doctor that delivered you to sign off.

[Jacketh]

Originally posted by lilostolemycoke

i do not agree that campaigns boil down to slogans.

Of course it doesn't boil down to slogans. Its far more complex and there are far more variables than that. But they help.They help the perception of the campaign and help to set the tone. 'Yes we can!' and 'Make America Great Again' clearly.had impact.

Most voters do not study things in a particular great detail or have the time to sit and watch Clinton talking for 60 minutes. Perceptions matter, and that is why the media is so important.

[lilostolemycoke]

Originally posted by Jacketh

Of course it doesn't boil down to slogans. Its far more complex and there are far more variables than that. But they help.They help the perception of the campaign and help to set the tone. 'Yes we can!' and 'Make America Great Again' clearly.had impact.

Most voters do not study things in a particular great detail or have the time to sit and watch Clinton talking for 60 minutes. Perceptions matter, and that is why the media is so important.

voters demanded that the candidates talk more about the issues. this would not have been an issue.


also: hillary willing to embrace the media and cozy up to them in order to get her message out probably would have helped her in the long run.

[LuLuDrops]

Originally posted by lilostolemycoke

do these states not require adequate documentation to get an ID?

i know florida has very strict rules when getting an ID. you basically need the doctor that delivered you to sign off.

I'll look it up, but I also found this tidbit:

Travelers who are not from the nine states will not be affected by the change in 2018. But by 2020, all travelers must have identification in compliance with REAL ID or they will not be allowed through TSA security checkpoints.

Only 24 states currently fully comply with the new standards. Aside from the above-cited nine, the others are expected to meet the 2018 deadline.

http://time.com/money/4617006/driver...ights-in-2018/

[Lord Blackout]

Stronger Together/Yes We Can/Love Trumps Hate are one thing

Make America Great Again was a psychological trick

[Jacketh]

On the polls though, 2020 is going to be SO nervy because of how wrong they were this time

It completely throws things up in the air for the campaigning as well. Dems need a good campaign team that year. Do they work on getting the Blue Wall back, or start to look at states like Arizona. I guess it depends on who the candidate is.

[LuLuDrops]

Originally posted by Jacketh

On the polls though, 2020 is going to be SO nervy because of how wrong they were this time

It completely throws things up in the air for the campaigning as well. Dems need a good campaign team that year. Do they work on getting the Blue Wall back, or start to look at states like Arizona. I guess it depends on who the candidate is.

DNC should do both, but do it right. They've got the money. The problem was spending too much time outside the Wall and not campaigning until the GOP surrogates and Trump himself had saturated the areas. Go from biggest Trump win in the blue wall to lowest so hit PA hardest then Wisconsin/Michigan and then have an Arizonan team. Also look into Florida and how to spread the blue outside the southern part and get more of it in the north and center.

[lilostolemycoke]

Originally posted by LuLuDrops

I'll look it up, but I also found this tidbit:

Travelers who are not from the nine states will not be affected by the change in 2018. But by 2020, all travelers must have identification in compliance with REAL ID or they will not be allowed through TSA security checkpoints.

Only 24 states currently fully comply with the new standards. Aside from the above-cited nine, the others are expected to meet the 2018 deadline.

http://time.com/money/4617006/driver...ights-in-2018/

makes sense tbh. i'm not mad. we need to push forward to having an ID that covers everything.

Originally posted by Lord Blackout

Stronger Together/Yes We Can/Love Trumps Hate are one thing

Make America Great Again was a psychological trick

i agree. the re-hashed reagan nonsense was very strategic. it got those old enough to remember those days to feel nostalgic about it and it got the younger (deplorables) to casually make racist innuendos, because we all know what people mean when they say they want things how they used to be.

[Lord Blackout]

The new DC metro card though. Could they make it any more anonymous?

[lilostolemycoke]

Originally posted by Lord Blackout

The new DC metro card though. Could they make it any more anonymous?

nnn they were probably perched for the electoral college to vote for hillary and didn't wanna **** it up

[Lord Blackout]

Originally posted by lilostolemycoke

nnn they were probably perched for the electoral college to vote for hillary and didn't wanna **** it up

Nah he's just that unpopular. They can't risk pissing off their customers

[Artemisia]

ive just been so sick of following this steady stream of **** news

i'm starting to become apathetic to it all. i dont care anymore d

[Lord Blackout]

http://www.mediaite.com/online/teen-...partisan-hack/

Wow he's sexist condescending trash

[Artemisia]

Originally posted by Lord Blackout

http://www.mediaite.com/online/teen-...partisan-hack/

Wow he's sexist condescending trash

i want to strangle him

[Wonderland]

The 2020 slogan needs to be Dump Trump. I can just picture it being chanted at the rallies like "Lock her up" was and it'd slay so much and get the base rallied. Best of all I can see it getting under his skin real bad.

I won't settle for anything less. It's time to fight one of the most negative campaigns in history with negativity.

[Wonderland]

Also the debates next cycle need to have ramifications for lies. It's frankly unacceptable that Trump was able to lie 75% of the time he spoke with no consequence.

[Artemisia]

Originally posted by Wonderland

Also the debates next cycle need to have ramifications for lies. It's frankly unacceptable that Trump was able to lie 75% of the time he spoke with no consequence.

Lying is an effective strategy within the structure of our toothless media that insists on presenting "both sides of the story" as equal. When Trump calls facts into question, networks like CNN ought to set the record straight, rather than opening the floor for debate - which only results in those facts being framed as partisan issues lol